A Holiday Survival Guide for Difficult Conversations | Bill Doherty

Nov 18, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Bill Doherty, a marriage counselor and meditator, discusses strategies for bridging political divides and managing difficult conversations. He shares techniques from Braver Angels, emphasizing "I" statements, not trying to change minds, and aiming for "accurate disagreement."

At a Glance
28 Insights
58m 53s Duration
16 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Bill Doherty and Braver Angels

Bill Doherty's Qigong and Meditation Practice

Origin Story of Better Angels After 2016 Election

The 'Stereotypes' Exercise in Better Angels Workshops

The 'Fishbowl' Exercise in Better Angels Workshops

The 'Questions and Answer' Exercise in Better Angels Workshops

Defining Success: 'Accurate Disagreement' and Humanizing the Other Side

Growth, Membership, and Impact of Braver Angels

Challenges and Advantages of Braver Angels' Approach

Communication Skill: Using 'I Statements' Over 'Truth Statements'

Communication Skill: Not Trying to Convince or Change Others

Communication Skill: Not Characterizing the Other Party's Positions

Communication Skill: Finding Something to Agree With First

Communication Skill: The 'Pivoting' Technique

Practical Advice for Applying Communication Skills and Contemplative Practice

Bill Doherty's Motivation for Working in Conflict Resolution

Qigong

An ancient Chinese spiritual and healing practice, approximately 5,000 years old, that combines breathing and gentle movements to calm, center, and reduce stress. It focuses on energy (Chi) as a source of healing and deep relaxation.

Emotional Self-Regulation

The ability to manage one's internal state and maintain centeredness and calmness when facing difficult interpersonal situations, conflicting people, or high-stakes agendas. It is a skill enhanced by practices like meditation and therapist training.

Braver Angels

An organization, formerly known as Better Angels, founded after the 2016 election to bring conservatives ('Reds') and liberals ('Blues') together. Its aim is to foster mutual understanding and trust, and to achieve 'accurate disagreement' without trying to change core political beliefs.

Accurate Disagreement

A goal in political discourse where individuals from opposing viewpoints genuinely understand each other's positions, allowing them to clearly identify and acknowledge their differences, rather than relying on stereotypes or mischaracterizations. It involves humanizing the 'other side'.

I Statements

A communication technique where individuals express their political views using personal framing like 'I believe,' 'I see,' or 'from my perspective.' This approach avoids presenting views as absolute 'truth statements,' which can sound dogmatic, accusatory, and trigger defensiveness.

Pivoting (Communication Skill)

A communication technique used in tense conversations where, after acknowledging the other person's point, one explicitly asks for permission (e.g., 'Are you interested in my thoughts?') before introducing their own perspective. This signals a shift and seeks consent, ensuring the other person is ready to listen.

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What is Qigong?

Qigong is an ancient Chinese spiritual and healing practice, approximately 5,000 years old, that uses breathing and gentle movements to calm and center the practitioner, reducing stress.

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How did the Braver Angels organization start?

Braver Angels started about 10 days after the 2016 election when two colleagues brought together 10 Hillary Clinton voters and 10 Donald Trump voters in Southwest Ohio for a weekend workshop to explore bridging political divides.

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What is the goal of Braver Angels workshops?

The goal of Braver Angels workshops is not to convert people but to achieve 'accurate disagreement,' meaning participants genuinely understand each other's views, humanize the 'other side' beyond stereotypes, and find common ground while acknowledging differences.

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Why is it important to use 'I statements' in political discussions?

Using 'I statements' (e.g., 'I believe,' 'from my perspective') instead of 'truth statements' helps avoid sounding absolute or accusatory, reducing defensiveness and making the speaker's point more accessible and human.

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Why shouldn't you try to change someone's mind in a political conversation?

Attempting to change someone's mind about their political beliefs, which are often tied to their core identity and values, will likely lead to resistance and shut down the conversation from the outset.

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What is the 'kernel of truth' concept in the stereotypes exercise?

In the stereotypes exercise, after identifying false stereotypes about their own side, participants are asked to consider if there's any 'kernel of truth' within them, fostering humility and acknowledging potential origins for the stereotype.

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How can meditation help with difficult political conversations?

Contemplative practices like meditation or Qigong can calm the mind, reduce amygdala activation, and increase self-awareness, making individuals less prone to being triggered and better able to regulate their emotional responses in tense political discussions.

1. Seek Accurate Disagreement, Not Conversion

Approach conversations with the primary goal of achieving ‘accurate disagreement,’ meaning both parties understand each other’s views deeply, rather than attempting to convert or change the other person’s mind, especially on core values.

2. Accept Others Without Trying to Change Them

In close relationships, accept people as they are, including their political views, recognizing that it is not your job to change them and that you can find peace in that acceptance.

3. Humanize Opponents Beyond Stereotypes

Actively seek to humanize individuals from opposing viewpoints by understanding them beyond generalized stereotypes, as this process can foster common ground and diminish feelings of hatred or animosity.

4. Approach Challenging Talks with Interest

Transform dread into delight by reframing challenging conversations as valuable opportunities to practice and refine communication skills, which not only improves the interaction but also enhances your overall life experience.

5. Treat Others as Moral and Intellectual Equals

Regardless of profound disagreements, consistently treat others as moral and intellectual equals, as this respect is fundamental for fostering constructive dialogue and preserving relationships.

6. Employ ‘I Statements’ for Personal Conviction

When discussing political views, frame your points using ‘I statements’ (e.g., ‘I believe,’ ‘from my perspective’) instead of absolute ’truth statements,’ to express your convictions without appearing arrogant or provoking defensiveness.

7. Avoid Characterizing Opponents’ Positions

Focus solely on expressing your own convictions and beliefs, and refrain from characterizing the other party’s positions, as doing so almost always leads to misrepresentation and triggers defensiveness.

8. Find Common Ground Before Disagreement

Before presenting a differing viewpoint, actively listen to the other person and identify a genuine point of agreement, as this approach can soften their stance and make them more receptive to what you have to say.

In tense conversations, especially when the other person is passionate, first find a point of agreement, then use ‘pivoting’ by asking for permission to share your own thoughts, signaling your intent and gaining their consent to listen.

10. Relinquish Need to Express Your View

When aiming to understand another person’s deeper story, temporarily set aside your own need to express your viewpoint, adopting an ‘anthropologist’ mindset to fully absorb their perspective.

11. Plan Difficult Conversations Proactively

For recurring difficult conversations, especially with family, plan your approach in advance to avoid reactive responses and create an opportunity to consciously practice new communication skills.

12. Address Stereotypes Directly with Humility

Start difficult group discussions by having each side identify and present the top false, negative stereotypes about themselves, clarifying ‘what’s true instead’ and acknowledging any ‘kernel of truth’ to preempt defensiveness and foster openness.

13. Curate Questions to Foster Curiosity

When preparing for cross-group Q&A, have each side separately formulate questions and then curate them to ensure they are genuine questions of curiosity, not ‘gotcha’ questions, thereby preventing defensiveness and promoting constructive dialogue.

14. Ask Sociological Questions to Initiate Dialogue

To open a conversation on sensitive topics without immediately triggering defensiveness, ask broader, sociological questions (e.g., ‘How are people in your area viewing [topic]?’), allowing the other person to expound without feeling personally challenged.

15. Become Bilingual in Political Language

Cultivate the skill of understanding and speaking both ‘red’ and ‘blue’ political languages, recognizing how specific terms (e.g., ‘diversity,’ ‘self-sufficiency’) can inadvertently alienate or trigger individuals from the opposing viewpoint.

16. Integrate Contemplative Practice for Calmness

Adopt a contemplative practice such as meditation or Qigong to calm your mind, reduce stress, and increase self-awareness, which helps prevent being easily triggered during challenging conversations.

17. Practice Loving-Kindness Meditation

Engage in loving-kindness (Metta) meditation to cultivate well-wishing towards others, recognizing that your feelings about them are shaped by your own mindset rather than their specific behaviors, which can transform your interactions.

18. Practice Emotional Self-Regulation

In high-stakes situations involving conflicting people and agendas, focus on managing yourself through emotional self-regulation and centeredness, drawing on practices like meditation to remain calm internally.

19. Adopt a Daily Qigong Practice

Start a daily Qigong meditation practice, beginning with 20 minutes and potentially increasing to 40 minutes, to reduce stress, achieve deep relaxation, calm and center yourself, and foster emotional self-regulation in challenging situations.

20. Structure Discussions for Calmness

When facilitating difficult conversations, structure the environment and process to minimize reactivity and maximize mutual understanding, as unstructured discussions often lead to interruptions and mischaracterizations.

21. Employ Fishbowl Listening Technique

To foster understanding, use a fishbowl exercise where one group speaks about their views (e.g., ‘why your side’s values are good for the country’ and ‘reservations about your own side’) while the other group listens silently, aiming to deactivate their critic and activate curiosity.

22. Listen for Self-Perception and Common Ground

When listening to an opposing group, actively deactivate your internal critic and argumentative impulses; instead, cultivate curiosity to understand their self-perception and remain open to identifying shared values or common ground.

23. Debrief with Specific Learning Questions

Following structured listening exercises, pair participants from opposing sides to discuss what they learned about the other’s self-perception and any commonalities identified, then gather the full group to share these insights, strictly enforcing adherence to these questions.

24. Moderator: Intervene Strictly on Off-Topic Remarks

As a moderator, if participants deviate from the agreed-upon questions or ground rules, immediately stop them mid-sentence to prevent escalation and ensure the conversation remains focused on the established objectives.

25. Do Not Attempt to Change Family’s Political Views

When discussing politics with family or close friends, adopt the ‘prime directive’ of not trying to change their minds, as political beliefs are deeply tied to identity and core values, and attempts to alter them will likely be met with resistance.

26. Acknowledge Source Reliance in Discussions

When stating facts or opinions, acknowledge that your understanding is often based on trusted sources or what you’ve read, rather than direct personal access to facts, inviting the other person to share their sources and fostering a less confrontational exchange.

27. Seek Deeper Stories with Curiosity

Approach individuals with differing views with genuine curiosity, seeking to understand the deeper background stories that shaped their perspectives, rather than focusing solely on the surface-level disagreement.

28. Join Depolarization Organizations

To combat political polarization, consider joining organizations like Better Angels (Braver Angels) to participate in workshops, learn communication skills, and engage in structured dialogues aimed at fostering mutual understanding.

It's hard to hate up close.

Dan Harris

Most conflict and disagreement about politics is each side stereotyping the other side.

Bill Doherty

I sound more human this way.

Republican legislator (quoted by Bill Doherty)

There's a lot more money in polarization than depolarization.

Bill Doherty

The prime directive is do not try to change a family member. You can only change yourself.

Bill Doherty

The way you feel about another person is not contingent upon their behavior, it's contingent upon your mindset.

Joseph Goldstein (quoted by Dan Harris)

I just want to be treated as a moral and intellectual equal.

University Professor (quoted by Bill Doherty)

Better Angels Red-Blue Workshop (Day-Long Version)

Bill Doherty
  1. Stereotypes Exercise: Each group (Reds and Blues) goes to a separate room to identify the four top false, negative, exaggerated stereotypes people have of their side. For each, they articulate what is true instead and identify any 'kernel of truth'.
  2. Stereotype Presentation: A representative from each group presents their stereotypes and corrections to the other side.
  3. Stereotype Reflection (One-to-One): Participants pair up (one Red, one Blue) to discuss what they learned about how the other side sees themselves and if they saw anything in common.
  4. Stereotype Reflection (Group): The whole group gathers to share their learnings and commonalities, with moderators intervening if anyone veers off-topic.
  5. Fishbowl Exercise: One group (e.g., Reds) sits in an inner circle to discuss 'Why are your side’s values and policies good for the country?' and 'What are your reservations or concerns about your own side?' The other group (Blues) sits on the outside, listening without interruption.
  6. Fishbowl Switch: The groups switch places, with the listening group moving to the middle to discuss the same questions, and the previous inner group moving to the outside to listen.
  7. Fishbowl Reflection (One-to-One): Participants pair up (one Red, one Blue) to discuss what they learned about how the other side sees themselves and if they saw anything in common.
  8. Fishbowl Reflection (Group): The whole group gathers to share their learnings and commonalities.
  9. Questions and Answer Exercise: Reds and Blues go to separate rooms for 20 minutes to come up with four 'good questions' for the other group, which are then curated by moderators to ensure they are questions of curiosity, not 'gotcha' questions.
  10. Group Q&A: The groups come back together to ask their curated questions of the other side.
  11. Checkout: Participants share what they are taking with them from the workshop, often expressing more hope for the country and a sense of shared concern despite policy differences.
40 minutes
Qigong daily practice duration Bill Doherty's personal practice every morning
5,000 years
Age of Qigong practice Ancient Chinese spiritual and healing practice
10 days
Time after 2016 election Braver Angels was founded Initial formation of the group
20 people (10 'Reds', 10 'Blues')
Participants in first Braver Angels workshop Southwest Ohio workshop
13 hours
Duration of first Braver Angels workshop Friday night, all day Saturday, Sunday afternoon
7-8 out of 10
Average participant satisfaction score for workshops Based on end-of-workshop evaluations
9,000
Braver Angels membership count As of 2020, growing
37
Number of states where Braver Angels workshops have been held As of 2020
500-600
Total number of Braver Angels workshops conducted As of 2020
A few hundred
Number of trained Braver Angels moderators As of 2020
20
Number of states with Braver Angels Red-Blue alliances As of 2020
7
Number of paid staff members at Braver Angels All other personnel are volunteers
95%
Percentage of Americans agreeing the country is too divided According to a Pew poll
30
Participants in Minnesota state legislature workshop Democrats and Republicans
48 members (24 R, 24 D)
Composition of the Problem Solvers Caucus Committed to bipartisanship in Congress
7 staff members
Participants in congressional staff workshop From two Minnesota congressional representatives
5 sessions
Maximum sessions for discernment counseling Bill Doherty's clinical specialty for couples on the brink of divorce