A New Way to Think About Your Money | William MacAskill

Aug 22, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode features William MacAskill, Associate Professor of Philosophy at Oxford University and co-founder of effective altruism, discussing how to use time and money to make the world better. He also introduces longtermism, a mental habit of considering future generations, and offers practical tips for both.

At a Glance
26 Insights
1h 4m Duration
19 Topics
4 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Effective Altruism and Personal Finance

Defining Effective Altruism and its Core Arguments

Peter Singer's Drowning Child Analogy and Moral Obligation

Psychological Barriers to Acting on Moral Imperatives

Personal Impact of Effective Altruism on Lifestyle and Well-being

Practical Steps for Starting Effective Altruism Giving

Resources for Effective Giving and Charity Evaluation

Addressing Bias in Charity Evaluation: The Play Pump Example

Impact of Effective Altruism on the Nonprofit World

Optimism for the Future of Effective Altruism

Introduction to Longtermism: What We Owe the Future

Human Wiring for Longtermism and Cultural Influence

Strategies for Promoting Cultural Change Towards Longtermism

The Overlap Between Self-Interest and Altruism

Overcoming Pessimism and Cultivating an Action-Oriented Mindset

Practical Tips for Thinking and Acting on Longtermism

The Argument for Having Children from a Longtermist Perspective

Avoiding Value Lock-in and Maintaining Moral Progress

Recap of Resources for Deeper Engagement

Effective Altruism

A movement focused on using one's time and money as effectively as possible to make the world a better place. It involves thinking critically about global problems and directing resources (like a percentage of income or career choice) to interventions with the biggest positive impact.

Longtermism

The view that positively impacting the long-term future is a key moral priority of our time. It involves taking seriously the potential scale of the future, identifying pivotal events that could influence the entire trajectory of human civilization, and acting to navigate these challenges for future generations.

Drowning Child Analogy

A thought experiment by philosopher Peter Singer, which posits that if you have a moral obligation to save a child drowning in a shallow pond at the cost of ruining your expensive suit, there is no morally relevant difference between that and saving a child dying of preventable disease in a distant country with a financial donation.

Value Lock-in

A risk where a particular set of values or a single worldview becomes globally dominant and entrenched, potentially hindering future moral progress and diversity of thought. This could arise from powerful technologies like AI or a unified world government.

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What is effective altruism?

Effective altruism is a movement focused on using one's time and money as effectively as possible to make the world a better place, often by donating a significant portion of income to highly effective charities or orienting one's career towards high-impact work.

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Why should I consider giving away a significant portion of my income?

You should consider it because, to a near mathematical certainty, a few thousand dollars can save a life, and you have the capacity to do an enormous amount of good, which can also lead to a deeper sense of meaning and personal well-being.

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Is there a moral obligation to help those in need, even if they are far away?

Yes, according to Peter Singer's 'drowning child' analogy, there is no morally relevant difference between saving a child in front of you and saving a child dying of preventable causes in a distant country, implying a moral obligation to help.

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How does giving impact personal happiness?

While direct psychological highs from saving a life in person are different, the abstract awareness of saving lives through donations can provide deep reassurance, a sense of peace, and meaning, contributing to overall happiness.

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How can I start practicing effective altruism?

You can start by taking a pledge (like the 'Try Giving Pledge' or '10% Pledge' at givingwhatwecan.org) to donate a chosen percentage of your income for a year, setting up a standing order, and then reflecting on your experience to potentially scale up.

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Where can I find effective charities to donate to?

For global health and development, GiveWell (givewell.org) is a top charity evaluator that conducts rigorous research to identify highly cost-effective nonprofits. Giving What We Can (givingwhatwecan.org) also provides recommendations across various cause areas.

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What is longtermism?

Longtermism is the belief that positively impacting the long-term future is a key moral priority, requiring serious consideration of how vast the future might be and focusing on actions in our lifetime that could pivotally affect future generations.

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Are humans naturally wired to think about future generations?

While modern Western consumerist cultures often focus on the short-term, many indigenous philosophies demonstrate a deep concern for future generations, suggesting that long-term thinking is a matter of values and cultural focus rather than inherent wiring.

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How can I contribute to longtermism beyond donating?

You can contribute by learning more about long-term risks and solutions (e.g., through books like 'What We Owe the Future' or 'The Precipice'), using your career to work on pressing issues (via resources like 80,000hours.org), and engaging with the Effective Altruism community.

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Is it immoral to have children due to climate change concerns?

No, it is not immoral. While children contribute to CO2 emissions, this impact can be offset for a fraction of the cost of raising a child, and children also contribute positively to society, innovation, and can become future change-makers.

1. Consider Giving Significant Income

Reflect on giving away a significant portion of your income, potentially 10% or more, because rigorous research shows a few thousand dollars can save a life with near mathematical certainty.

2. Rearrange Life for Good

Evaluate rearranging your entire life and career, including altering your profession, to actively implement the principle of doing the most good possible.

3. Give for Personal Happiness

Engage in financial giving, as it can make you a happier person and lead to a positive net impact on your well-being, more so than spending on luxury goods.

4. Donate for Deep Reassurance

Make donations to effective charities, as the abstract awareness of saving lives can provide deep reassurance, leading to a more holistic peace and meaning in life.

5. Develop Future Generations Habit

Cultivate the mental habit of considering the welfare of future generations in your thinking, as this practice is beneficial for both the species and your personal well-being right now.

6. Adopt Action-Oriented Mindset

Cultivate an action-oriented mindset by focusing on what you can do to improve situations, rather than dwelling on how bad things are, whether in your personal life or the world.

7. Envision Wonderful Future

Actively envision how wonderfully good the future could be if humanity makes the right choices, reflecting on peak personal experiences as a motivating force for positive change.

8. Prioritize Cultural Change

Prioritize fostering cultural change regarding long-term thinking, as robust political and institutional changes depend on genuine public concern for future generations.

9. Start Giving Early Career

Begin giving early in your career by donating the excess income as your salary increases, as it’s easier to avoid increasing consumption than to reduce it later.

10. Take a Giving Pledge

Consider taking the ‘Try Giving Pledge’ to commit a chosen percentage of your income for a year, or the ‘Giving What We Can 10% Pledge,’ then reflect and gradually increase your giving.

11. Automate Donations

Set up a standing order or direct debit for your chosen donation amount, as this automates the process and requires only one decision.

12. Research Effective Charities

Utilize resources like givewell.org and givingwhatwecan.org to research and identify charities with proven effectiveness and high cost-effectiveness in various cause areas.

13. Consider Direct Cash Transfers

Consider direct cash transfers to the poorest people, as they can best decide how to spend the money to meet their specific needs, often more effectively than prescribed interventions.

14. Prioritize Global Health

Prioritize global health interventions when donating, as the desire to avoid sickness and death from diseases like malaria is a universal human need, ensuring broad impact.

15. Solicit Beneficiary Feedback

Seek direct information from the people you aim to benefit about their needs and preferred trade-offs, ensuring interventions are aligned with their actual desires and not external assumptions.

16. Join Effective Altruism Community

Get involved with the Effective Altruism community to gain social support and rewards, as being part of a group doing good can be encouraging and reassuring.

17. Embrace Low-Material Lifestyle

Consider adopting a lifestyle that doesn’t involve large material expenditures, as there are many ways to have a very enjoyable life without significant spending on possessions.

18. Learn About Long-termism

Deepen your understanding of long-termism and its implications, particularly focusing on neglected or overlooked challenges like engineered pandemics and AI risks, to better inform your actions.

19. Spread Long-termism Arguments

Actively make and spread compelling arguments for why society should care about future generations, as this is a key method for driving cultural change.

20. Use Media for Long-termism

Leverage various media platforms like podcasts, YouTube, movies, and educational initiatives to disseminate long-termist ideas and foster cultural change.

21. Align Career with Long-Termism

Consider making significant career changes to work on the most pressing issues impacting the long-term future, as your time can be even more valuable than money in this domain.

22. Donate for Long-Term Future

Direct your financial donations towards causes that most effectively impact the long-term future, such as those supported by the Long-Term Future Fund at Giving What We Can.

23. Have Children, Raise Well

Consider having children and raising them well, as they can contribute positively to society and become change-makers, while their carbon impact can be effectively offset through targeted donations.

24. Maintain Diverse Worldviews

Actively maintain an openness to diverse moral perspectives and a wide range of worldviews to ensure continued moral progress and prevent the ‘value lock-in’ of potentially suboptimal values.

25. Appreciate Progress, Low Standards

Maintain ’low standards’ by appreciating how far humanity has progressed from historical conditions, which can foster optimism and counteract the unhelpful tendency to focus only on negatives.

26. Use Historical Comparison

Employ historical comparison as a thinking tool; on a bad day, reflect on the significantly worse conditions of past generations to gain perspective and reassurance about your present circumstances.

If you're born into a rich country, you can save dozens or even hundreds of lives over the course of your lifetime. That's this phenomenal fact about the world.

Will McCaskill

It's like you can do that every few months. It's like, you know, in January, you rescue the child from burning building. In May, you save someone from drowning. In October, then someone's, you know, choking and do the Heimlich maneuver. And that just keeps happening over and over again. You would think like, wow, I've had this pretty remarkable life. But actually, that's just the situation we find ourselves in. That's the sort of life that one can have just by using your money in a different way.

Will McCaskill

I think people set up the distinction between acting for the good of others and acting to benefit yourself is like much starker than it really is. I think there's enormous ways which you can, enormous extent to which you can do both.

Will McCaskill

I'm in this because I want to make the world better. Getting to see the benefits of it is a happy bonus, but it's not the key thing.

Will McCaskill

I don't know, we're a bunch of monkeys. We've like managed to build a society that's already kind of amazing.

Will McCaskill

We're not rational animals, we're rationalizing animals.

Will McCaskill (attributing to Jonathan Haidt)

Starting to Give Effectively (Try Giving Pledge)

Will McCaskill
  1. Take some time (e.g., a weekend) to reflect on the ideas of effective altruism.
  2. Decide on a specific percentage of your income that you plan to give over the following year.
  3. Set up a standing order (direct debit) for that percentage to immediately go to a cause of your choice.
  4. After one year, check in to assess the experience and consider if you could give more next year, ideally building up to 10% or more.

Longtermism Action Plan

Will McCaskill
  1. Learn a lot more about long-term risks, neglected challenges (like engineered pandemics or AI development), and potential solutions by reading resources such as 'What We Owe the Future', 'The Precipice', or the 'Cold Takes' blog.
  2. Use your money by focusing donations on causes that most effectively impact the long-term future, for example, through the Long-Term Future Fund found at Giving What We Can.
  3. Use your career by making changes to work on the most pressing long-term issues, utilizing career advice resources like 80,000 Hours.
  4. Get involved with the Effective Altruism community by attending conferences (e.g., Effective Altruism Global) to gain context, get up to speed, and figure out the best fit for your contribution.
a few thousand dollars
Cost to save a life in global health and development Based on extremely rigorous research and evidence for highly effective nonprofits.
25% to 90% or more
Will McCaskill's income given away Depends on how income is counted; includes university income, book royalties, speaking fees, and other honoraria.
25-30%
Will McCaskill's university income given away (post-tax) Everything earned above approximately £26,000 (~$32,000-$33,000 USD) per year.
£180,000
Average expenditure on a child in the UK over 18 years Approximately £10,000 per child per year.
about £5,000 per year
Will McCaskill's increased annual living amount if he had a child (with two parents) This would be his share of the average child expenditure.
richest 5-10%
Will McCaskill's wealth percentile after giving Compared to the world's population.
about 7,000 people
Number of people who have pledged at least 10% of their income on givingwhatwecan.org As of the time of the podcast.
100,000 people
Number of people donating via GiveWell Many more who are donating some amount or using their career differently.
well over a billion dollars
Total money moved by Effective Altruism (including GiveWell) over 12 years Funds moved to the most effective nonprofits.
tens of billions of dollars
Committed funds by Effective Altruism (in expectation) Funds that are committed and set aside.
less than 30
Life expectancy for almost all of human history Before modern advancements.
80%
Percentage of the world living in extreme poverty in 1800 Compared to current figures.
less than 10%
Percentage of the world living in extreme poverty now Significant reduction over time.
2011
Year gay marriage was legalized in the United States Cited as an example of recent moral progress.
a thousand times over
Carbon impact offset multiplier for a child Achieved by dedicating £1,000 of the child's annual cost to highly effective climate change organizations.