Andrew Olendzki, Teaching Old-School Buddhism

Dec 21, 2016 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Andrew Olendzki, a Buddhist scholar, discusses the challenging concept of non-self from the Pali Canon, explaining how understanding it can reduce suffering and foster positive emotions. He details how meditation helps de-personalize experience, leading to a less selfish and more selfless life.

At a Glance
10 Insights
1h 2m Duration
13 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Andrew Olendzki and 'Untangling Self'

Andrew's Path to Buddhism and Pali Studies

Reliability of Ancient Oral Traditions

The Buddha's Earthly Personality and Teaching Style

Andrew's Personal Meditation Journey and Its Impact

Understanding the Buddhist Concept of Non-Self

Why Untangling the Self is Crucial for Well-being

Evolutionary Perspective on Self and Human Behavior

Practical Benefits of a Non-Self Perspective

How Meditation Cultivates Non-Self (Mindfulness)

The Nature and Possibility of Enlightenment

Optimistic Outlook on Human Evolution and Selflessness

Andrew's Resources and Upcoming Courses

Pali Canon

The earliest strata of the Buddhist tradition, representing the historical Buddha's teachings, which Andrew Olendzki specializes in. It's the original, authentic teachings passed down for centuries, spoken in an ancient Indian vernacular.

Non-Self (Anatta)

The Buddhist idea that the self is not a fixed, essential entity but rather an 'afterthought' or 'cherry on top' of our experience. It's a view or concept, not a metaphysically real thing, and when examined closely, experience is seen as a construction of impersonal forces and relationships.

Greed, Hatred, and Delusion

Fundamental, toxic emotional drives deeply embedded in humans, identified by the Buddha as causes of suffering and harm in the world. The Buddhist path aims for their complete uprooting.

Feeling Tone

A Buddhist term referring to the immediate, automatic assessment of an experience as pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. It's an elementary particle of experience that precedes the personalization of 'self'.

True Mindfulness

A state achieved through meditation that involves paying attention on purpose in the present moment with an attitude of nonjudgment. It means disengaging from wanting or not wanting things to be a certain way, allowing one to observe experiences with curiosity rather than identification or aversion.

Equanimity

A state of mind characterized by an even balance, where one is not leaning into or away from pleasure or pain. It allows for observing sensations and emotions with interest and disengagement, rather than identification or strong emotional reaction.

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How reliable are ancient oral traditions for preserving teachings like the Buddha's?

Ancient oral traditions, particularly in cultures like ancient India, were far more faithful than modern people might assume. They relied on collective memorization, simple and repetitive teaching styles, and lacked developed writing infrastructure, making oral transmission a highly accurate method.

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What is the Buddhist concept of 'non-self' and why is it so challenging to grasp?

The Buddhist concept of non-self posits that what we perceive as a 'self' is not an essential starting point but an 'afterthought' or a conceptual label added to the automatic processing of sensory data, perceptions, and feeling tones. It's challenging because the idea of a fundamental 'me' is deeply ingrained and taken for granted.

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Why is it beneficial to 'untangle the self' or see through the illusion of a fixed self?

Untangling the self is beneficial because the sense of self triggers primitive, toxic emotional drives like greed, hatred, and delusion, which cause suffering and conflict. A non-self perspective allows for the development of positive emotions like generosity, kindness, and compassion, leading to less personal distress and more appropriate actions.

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How does meditation help one understand or experience the concept of non-self?

Meditation helps by training the mind to observe experiences directly without identifying with them. By noticing sensations, thoughts, and emotions as impersonal events ('anger is arising' instead of 'I am angry') and cultivating an attitude of nonjudgment and curiosity, one gradually disengages from the habitual 'selfing' process.

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Is 'enlightenment' a real possibility, and what does it entail according to Buddhist teachings?

Yes, enlightenment is considered possible and is described as a profound psychological transformation involving the complete uprooting of primitive, toxic instincts of greed, hatred, and delusion. It's seen as a re-routing of the brain's construction of experience, allowing one to operate in the world without these negative forces.

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Will seeing through the illusion of self make a person unable to function in daily life?

No, understanding non-self will not make a person unable to function. It helps one become 'less selfish and more selfless,' allowing them to navigate daily tasks and responsibilities while being less swayed by personal identification with emotions and desires.

1. Explore Experience Directly

Engage in meditation by paying very close attention to what is actually happening in the mind and body directly, rather than thinking about it conceptually, to explore your experience. This serves as a “lab component” to understand how the mind and body work.

2. Adopt Non-Self Strategy

Shift your strategy for organizing experience from a “self” view (“this is me, I am at stake”) to a “non-self” view (“this is not mine, this is not me”). This prevents evoking toxic emotions like greed and hatred, allowing for more positive emotions such as generosity and compassion.

3. Don’t Take Things Personally

Avoid taking internal commotions (thoughts, emotions) personally, as this prevents you from being “yanked around” by them and reduces suffering. When something feels impersonal, it doesn’t hurt as much.

4. Re-language Emotional States

Instead of saying “I’m feeling angry,” rephrase it as “I notice that anger is arising.” This shifts the emotion from driving your actions to becoming an observable object, allowing for different choices.

5. Look for the “You” in Emotion

In moments of strong emotion, turn your attention inward and try to find “who” is feeling it. Realizing that the emotion isn’t as solid as you think can defuse its power and prevent regrettable actions.

6. Observe with Curiosity & Equanimity

When practicing mindfulness, pay attention to present moment experiences with an attitude of non-judgment, disengaging from wanting or not wanting things to be a certain way. This involves noticing aversion and letting go of it, regarding sensations with curiosity and interest rather than identification.

7. Identify Behavioral Patterns

Through observation, recognize recurring patterns of cause and effect in your mind and body, such as irritability arising from lack of sleep. Understanding these patterns allows for distancing from identification and making different choices.

8. Reimagine Mature Years

View retirement or mature years not as a time of diminishing expectations, but as an opportunity for spiritual investigation and understanding. This reframes a life stage for personal growth.

9. Test Teachings in Your Life

Apply the teachings and guidelines discussed to the “laboratory of your own life and your own mind” to test their utility and verify them in your personal experience.

10. View “Self” as a Verb

Consider the “self” not as a fixed noun or entity, but as a verb – an event that occurs. When you are mindful, you are “not selfing,” which helps in disengaging from identification.

I'm interested in the man, historically, underlying all of that. And so as a scholar, I specialize in the earliest strata of the tradition, the historical Buddha, the world he lived in, the language he spoke and taught in, or it's very similar to that.

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The Buddhists are simply doing is saying that notion that we have of the self is actually more like the icing on the cake.

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The self is the sort of focal point of our most primitive instincts of I have to survive at all costs.

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When you take something personally, it really hurts. When it's impersonal, it doesn't.

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When you are mindful, you're not selfing. See, I consider self to be a verb rather than a noun. It's not a thing that exists, but a thing that occurs, an event that occurs.

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I think that we all are capable of operating in the world without being hateful and cruel, without being greedy and selfish.

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Meditation Practice for Cultivating Non-Self

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  1. Observe sensations that arise and fall in the body, such as the breath.
  2. Instead of saying 'I am watching my breath,' simply be aware that 'breath is occurring.'
  3. When encountering distressing experiences (e.g., pain), notice the aversion that arises.
  4. Let go of the aversion by disengaging from the wanting or not wanting, and instead regard the sensation with curiosity and interest.
  5. Cultivate equanimity, an evenly balanced attitude, where you are not leaning into or away from pleasure or pain, but simply observing it as a non-personal event.
2,600 years ago
Approximate time the Buddha lived Mentioned in the context of how long ago his teachings originated.
300 years
Duration Buddha's teachings were passed down orally Before they were written down.
7 years
Duration Andrew Olendzki spent on his Ph.D. thesis Fully immersed in primary Pali texts.