Annoying Partners, Aging Parents, Impossible Coworkers: Buddhist Advice for Conflict, Communication, and "Patience with Teeth" | devon and nico hase

Sep 30, 2026 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Buddhist teachers Devin and Nico Haase discuss how to manage conflict in all relationships, viewing friction as a feature, not a bug. They share practices like deep listening, understanding conflict styles, and cultivating "patience with teeth" to transform relationship challenges into opportunities for growth and deeper connection.

At a Glance
12 Insights
1h 12m Duration
16 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction: Handling Conflict as a Core Life Skill

Writing a Book as a Couple: A Proof of Concept

Applying Conflict Management to All Relationships

The Buddha's First Noble Truth: Dukkha in Relationships

Using Relationship Friction for Personal Transformation

Three Directions of Listening Practice

Applying Mindfulness to Relational Fitness

The Brahma Viharas and Cultivating Heart Practices

Prioritizing Joy and Contemplating Death

The Shadow Side of Dharma: Conflict Avoidance

Rupturing Like a Pro: Healthy Conflict Skills

Understanding Conflict Styles: Volcano, Diplomat, Dodger

Navigating Conflict with a Dodger

Patience with Teeth: Beyond the Trance of Nice

Walking the High Wire: Continuous Re-balancing in Conflict

Cultivating Sonder for Deeper Relationships

Dukkha

A Pali word often translated as suffering, but more accurately encompasses a range from serious suffering to subtle discomfort, agitation, stress, or the inherent unreliability and shakiness of life, like a wheel not fitting well on its axle.

Three Directions of Listening

A mindfulness practice derived from the Satipatthana Sutta, involving listening internally (to oneself), externally (to others), and to the relationship itself (the connection and context between individuals).

Brahma Viharas

Ancient Buddhist terms for four interrelated, innate mind states or 'divine abodes' that can be trained through meditation: loving-kindness (metta/friendliness), compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity.

Conflict Styles

Three common automatic reactions to conflict: 'Volcanoes' (explode and express), 'Diplomats' (talk through and analyze), and 'Dodgers' (avoid and disappear). Each has strengths and weaknesses, and the goal is to understand and balance them, not change them.

Patience with Teeth

A concept that challenges passive patience, describing a fierce, honest, and active engagement with discomfort and imperfections in relationships. It involves being real and willing to be uncomfortable for as long as it takes, without collapsing or glossing over issues.

Walking the High Wire

A metaphor for the continuous process of coming into balance in life and relationships. It's not about achieving a static, perfect balance, but rather constantly noticing when one drifts too far in one direction (e.g., self-righteousness or self-effacement) and skillfully adjusting back to the middle way.

Sonder

The profound realization that every random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own, filled with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries, and inherited craziness.

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How can conflict be a positive force in relationships?

Conflict, or 'dukkha,' is a feature, not a bug, in relationships. It provides an opportunity for growth and transformation by bringing out hidden parts of ourselves and our partners, which can be used as a meditation practice.

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What are the three ways to listen deeply in relationships?

The three directions of listening involve being mindful internally (to your own body/mind), externally (to the other person), and to the relationship itself (the connection and its context).

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Why is joy important in relationships, and how can it be cultivated?

Joy is not frivolous but a crucial element for relationships. It can be cultivated by intentionally prioritizing shared fun and by contemplating impermanence, which helps dissolve everyday irritations and brings a poignant intimacy.

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How can contemplating death help with everyday irritation in relationships?

Remembering that life and relationships are impermanent and will not last forever can make minor annoyances and personality quirks seem insignificant, dissolving irritation and fostering greater appreciation and intimacy.

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What are the common conflict styles, and how can understanding them help?

The three conflict styles are Volcanoes (explode), Diplomats (talk it out), and Dodgers (avoid). Understanding these helps you work skillfully with your own and others' styles, focusing on balancing weaknesses rather than trying to change fundamental approaches.

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How do you engage skillfully with someone who avoids conflict (a Dodger)?

Tread carefully, allow them space to shuffle away, and approach them softly when they return. For intimate relationships, use practices like 'Checking In' or 'Partner RAIN' to create a safe environment for communication without fear of a big confrontation.

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What does 'patience with teeth' mean in the context of relationships?

Patience with teeth is an active, fierce, and honest form of patience that acknowledges and engages with discomfort and imperfections. It means being willing to be uncomfortable and real in conflict, rather than passively waiting for things to change or avoiding difficult truths.

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How can one speak clearly in conflict without being overly aggressive or avoidant?

This involves 'walking the high wire' by continuously listening deeply to your own body and the other person. Notice if you're drifting into self-righteousness or self-effacement, and adjust to find a balanced middle way that allows for honest expression while maintaining connection.

1. Embrace Relationship Friction

Recognize that underlying friction and discomfort (dukkha) are inherent features of any intimate relationship, not bugs to be eliminated. This acceptance shifts attitude from resistance to curiosity, allowing for growth.

2. Use Conflict for Transformation

Instead of merely enduring or resisting conflict, view it as an opportunity for personal and relational growth. Adopt an attitude of curiosity to learn from the ‘rub’ of differences.

3. Practice Three Directions of Listening

Cultivate mindfulness by listening internally (to your own mind-body system), externally (to the other person’s mental and physical states), and to the relationship itself (the in-between space and context).

4. Contemplate Impermanence for Irritation

When irritated by small things about a partner or others, remember that life and relationships are impermanent. This awareness can dissolve minor annoyances and foster greater intimacy and appreciation.

5. Understand Your Conflict Style

Identify your natural conflict style (Volcano, Diplomat, Dodger) and recognize its strengths and weaknesses. Focus on training in the ’learning edge’ of your style rather than trying to change it entirely.

6. Volcanoes: Master Repair and Apology

If your conflict style is ‘Volcano’ (prone to exploding), prioritize becoming skilled at repair and sincere apologies to mend ruptures effectively after expressing yourself.

7. Diplomats: Learn to Let Go

If your conflict style is ‘Diplomat’ (prone to over-talking and analyzing), practice knowing when to let go of a discussion. Not every issue needs to be fully resolved immediately; some can wait or be released.

8. Dodgers: Return to Address Issues

If your conflict style is ‘Dodger’ (prone to avoiding conflict), make an effort to return to discussions and address issues. Use soft, inviting approaches to create a safe space for communication.

9. Cultivate Patience with Teeth

Develop an active, honest form of patience that engages with discomfort and acknowledges imperfections, both your own and others’. This is not passive waiting but a fierce commitment to staying present and real in conflict.

10. Walk the High Wire in Conflict

In moments of conflict, continuously re-balance by listening to your body’s signals. Notice if you’re drifting into self-righteousness (tension) or self-effacement (contraction) and adjust back towards a middle ground.

11. Prioritize Shared Joy

Actively make shared joy and fun a higher priority in your relationships. It is not a frivolous ’nice-to-have’ but a crucial element for connection and well-being.

12. Cultivate Sonder

Consciously realize that other people’s lives are as vivid, complex, and central to them as your own is to you. This perspective fosters empathy and improves relational success and happiness.

don't waste your suffering.

Joseph Goldstein

relationships are a bumpy ride.

Devin Haase

death is the mother of beauty

Nico Haase

meditation does not make you perfect. It actually just makes you even more human.

Nico Haase

I'm an amateur surfer. And so, like, getting all churned about by the waves sucks, right? Like, that's when we're completely in the turn and the push and the pull and the reactivity, and there's no control. But if we are learning how to stay on our board, you know, how to, like, stay with some balance, understand the rhythm of the waves, that's exactly what we're talking about.

Devin Haase

Three Directions of Listening Meditation

Nico Haase
  1. Close your eyes or soften your gaze.
  2. Bring a warm, kind awareness to your own feet for a minute or two.
  3. Bring that same attention to your hands for a minute or two.
  4. Bring that same attention, that listening, to your heart, spending about three minutes really listening to your own heart (Internal Listening).
  5. Imagine your partner, a good friend, parent, child, or co-worker in your mental space and listen to what is going on for this person (External Listening).
  6. Sense into the relationship itself, its history, and context (Listening to the Relationship).

RAIN Meditation (Partner RAIN)

Devin Haase
  1. Recognize what is happening (e.g., feelings, thoughts).
  2. Allow the experience to be there, just as it is.
  3. Investigate with a gentle, curious attention.
  4. Nurture yourself (and your partner, if doing 'Partner RAIN') with self-compassion.
almost 20 years
Devin and Nico's relationship duration Mentioned as a long-term relationship with ongoing conflict.
30 days
Time Nico spent writing the manuscript Written with no break, locked in an apartment.
80s
Nico's parents' age Mentioned in the context of remembering impermanence in relationships.
three-year
Duration of Devin and Nico's non-traditional retreat Guided by Tibetan teachers, in solitude.
20 minutes later
Time Devin bounced back from panic/anger after van incident Illustrates the fruits of meditation in recovering from difficulty.
20 foot long
Length of their new van Context for the van cliff incident.
20 feet above
Height of the van above the ocean on the cliff Context for the van cliff incident.
11 year old
Dan Harris's son's age Son taught him the word 'Sonder'.