Bob Roth, Meditation Teacher to the Stars

Feb 14, 2018 Episode Page ↗
Overview

The episode features Bob Roth, a renowned Transcendental Meditation (TM) teacher and author of "Strength in Stillness." He discusses his journey into TM, clarifies common misconceptions about the practice and its organization, and highlights its benefits for stress reduction and overall well-being.

At a Glance
27 Insights
1h 4m Duration
14 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Bob Roth and Transcendental Meditation

Bob Roth's Personal Journey to Meditation

Understanding Transcendental Meditation: Mantra and Effortlessness

Distinguishing TM from Mindfulness and Concentration Meditation

The Life and Impact of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

The David Lynch Foundation's Mission and Work

Cost and Accessibility of Learning Transcendental Meditation

Neurophysiological Differences in Meditation Types

The Nature of Transcendent Experiences

Addressing Criticisms: Yogic Flying and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras

Addressing Criticisms: Maharishi's Personal Conduct and Beatles' Relationship

Bob Roth's Experience Teaching Celebrities

Overview of Bob Roth's Book: Strength in Stillness

The David Lynch Foundation's Impact and Future Goals

Transcendental Meditation (TM)

A meditation practice where one thinks a meaningless mantra effortlessly, allowing the mind to settle inward to a deep level of calm and wakefulness, distinct from concentration or open monitoring. It is described as the easiest thing one can do, as the mind is naturally drawn to something more satisfying.

Mantra in TM

A word or sound without meaning, used effortlessly as an intention rather than a clear repetition, to allow the mind to turn inward and access deeper levels of consciousness. The mantra is considered a vehicle, not an end in itself, and its use is fluid and without effort.

Transcending

The experience of accessing a deep level of the mind that is calm, settled, and wide awake, distinct from waking, dreaming, and sleeping states. This 'fourth state' of consciousness can occur spontaneously in moments of deep satisfaction, like holding a newborn, or through regular meditation practice.

Focused Attention Meditation

A type of meditation that involves concentrating on a specific object like the breath or a mantra, which is said to create gamma brainwaves (20 to 50 cycles per second). This form of meditation aims to clear the mind of thoughts through concentration.

Open Monitoring Meditation

A type of meditation, like some forms of mindfulness, where one observes thoughts and sensations without judgment. This practice is associated with theta brainwaves (5 to 7 cycles per second) and alpha 2 brainwaves (10 to 12 cycles per second).

Self-Transcending Meditation

A type of meditation, exemplified by TM, that allows the mind to effortlessly settle to its deepest, most satisfying level. This state is characterized by alpha 1 brainwaves (8 to 10 cycles per second), a profound state of physiological relaxation, and a reduction in cortisol levels.

Patanjali's Yoga Sutras

An ancient treatise on yoga, written 2,500 years ago, that describes how to transcend and hypothesizes about the potential for human senses and abilities to awaken when functioning from that deepest level of the mind. It outlines stages of 'flying' or moving through space.

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What is Transcendental Meditation (TM)?

TM is a meditation technique that uses a meaningless sound or word (mantra) thought effortlessly to allow the mind to settle down to a calm, settled, and wide-awake state, accessing a deeper, transcendent level of consciousness.

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How is TM different from mindfulness or concentration meditation?

TM is described as 180 degrees opposite to 'taming the brain' or concentration; it involves no effort and allows the mind to naturally be drawn inward to a more satisfying, deeper level, unlike mindfulness which often involves open monitoring or concentration on a specific object.

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Who was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was a physicist and teacher who, after studying with his guru, began teaching Transcendental Meditation globally in 1955, advocating that the ability to transcend is everyone's birthright and should be scientifically studied.

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What is the David Lynch Foundation?

The David Lynch Foundation is a 501c3 organization, co-founded by David Lynch and Bob Roth, that raises funds to provide scholarships for people, especially inner-city school kids, veterans with trauma, and survivors of domestic violence, to learn Transcendental Meditation.

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Why does learning TM cost money, and is it accessible to everyone?

Learning TM involves about 10 hours of one-to-one and small group instruction from a certified teacher, plus lifelong support, which is why there is a cost; those who can afford it help subsidize those who cannot, ensuring financial accessibility with options down to no cost.

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What is 'Yogic Flying' in TM?

Yogic Flying is an advanced meditation technique based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, where practitioners learn to think from the deepest level of the mind, resulting in a physical 'hopping' motion while sitting cross-legged, described as an inner experience of blissful exercise rather than literal levitation.

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Did the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi make sexual advances or have 'supernatural powers'?

Bob Roth states that claims of sexual misconduct by the Maharishi are unsubstantiated by others present at the time, and any mentions of 'supernatural powers' like 'strength of an elephant' were quotes from ancient Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, not literal claims by the Maharishi.

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What is the purpose of Bob Roth's book, 'Strength in Stillness'?

The book aims to educate readers about the dangers of stress, present meditation as a viable tool, explain the different types of meditation, clarify misunderstandings about TM, and advocate for learning TM from a certified teacher.

1. Address Stress and Trauma Directly

Do not ignore or mask the dangers of stress and trauma with temporary fixes like excessive coffee, alcohol, or medication. Instead, recognize these as serious issues that need to be directly addressed, similar to a physical ailment, rather than simply ‘bucking up’.

2. Practice Effortless Mantra Meditation

In Transcendental Meditation, think a mantra—a word or sound without meaning—effortlessly and easily, as taught one-to-one by a teacher. This technique allows the mind to naturally settle and access deeper states of calm, aligning with its inherent desire for greater satisfaction.

3. Avoid Taming the Mind (TM Approach)

Do not attempt to tame or corral the mind, as its deep nature is to be drawn to something more satisfying. Instead, allow the mind to effortlessly settle inward, as if drawn to beautiful music, rather than forcing it into stillness.

4. Accept Mind’s Chaos, Don’t Fight It

Avoid an aggressive or hostile attitude towards your own mind’s comings and goings, as fighting its crazy and chaotic nature is counterproductive. Instead, simply observe your thoughts and let them go, recognizing that this acceptance is the most effective approach.

5. Utilize Diverse Meditation Tools

View meditation practices as a ’toolbox’ with many different techniques, rather than choosing one exclusively. Embrace a ‘yes, and’ approach, recognizing that various methods like TM and mindfulness can complement each other for comprehensive mental training.

6. Regularly Access Transcendent Experiences

Recognize that transcendent experiences, similar to the ‘zone’ athletes describe or the bliss felt with a newborn, are not random occurrences. The purpose of meditation is to regularly and intentionally access these states of deep quiet, clarity, and unbounded awareness.

7. Practice TM Twice Daily

Engage in Transcendental Meditation for two 20-minute sessions every day. This consistent practice is designed to be deeply satisfying and allows time to pass quickly, even for those who initially struggle with shorter meditation durations.

8. Use Mantra as Effortless Intention

When practicing Transcendental Meditation, do not concentrate on the mantra with clear pronunciation or repetition. Instead, use it as a fluid, faint idea or intention, allowing the mind to effortlessly settle inward and potentially be without the mantra for minutes at a time.

9. Embrace Skepticism in Meditation

You can be 100% skeptical about transcendental meditation, and the technique will still work just as effectively. This removes the barrier of needing to ‘believe’ in the practice for it to be beneficial.

10. Consider Meditation as Medication Alternative

Explore meditation as a viable alternative or complement to medication for managing stress and trauma, especially given concerns about over-medication. While not anti-medication, this approach suggests meditation can play a significant role in addressing underlying issues.

11. Prioritize Morning Meditation for Energy

Practice Transcendental Meditation for 20 minutes first thing in the morning. This routine is described as being more restorative than sleep and can provide a significant boost of energy for the day.

12. Combine TM with Mid-Day Mindfulness

Supplement your regular Transcendental Meditation practice with other mindfulness tools like body scans and breathing techniques for use during intense moments in the day. This ‘yes, and’ approach allows for spontaneous mindfulness to arise from a calmer inner state, enhancing overall resilience.

13. Learn Meditation from Certified Teacher

When seeking to learn meditation, especially techniques like TM, commit to learning from a certified teacher rather than solely relying on books or online resources. This personalized instruction ensures proper technique and ongoing support, akin to consulting an expert doctor or tutor.

14. Invest in Personalized Meditation Instruction

Consider investing in personalized, one-to-one instruction for meditation techniques like TM, which typically involves about 10 hours of training. This initial investment provides ongoing, lifetime support from any certified teacher globally at no additional cost, ensuring proper learning and sustained practice.

15. Overcome Financial Barriers to TM

If you genuinely wish to learn Transcendental Meditation but face financial constraints, know that there are flexible pricing options, ranging from $960 to $360, and even free access for those with no money. This ensures financial obstacles do not prevent learning the technique.

16. Seek Data-Backed Meditation Practices

If you find meditation difficult or ineffective, continue exploring different methods, but prioritize those supported by scientific data and substance. This ensures you invest your time in legitimate forms that address significant issues like anxiety or a desire for happiness.

17. Maintain Realistic Meditation Expectations

Understand that meditation, while beneficial, does not eliminate human emotions or make you impervious to life’s challenges. View it as a tool for personal growth and improving future responses, rather than achieving an unrealistic state of constant imperturbability.

18. Separate Meditation from Religious Affiliation

Understand that meditation practices, including the ability to transcend, are not inherently tied to any specific religion, even if they’ve been historically organized by them. Approach meditation as a universal technique, independent of religious belief.

19. Shift Focus: Micro-Level Change

If large-scale societal change feels overwhelming or ineffective, consider focusing on individual, one-at-a-time efforts, such as through education, to create impact. This suggests a more direct and personal approach to making a difference when broader political avenues seem blocked.

20. Education: Light a Fire

Approach education not as merely imparting information (‘filling the pail’), but as inspiring curiosity and intrinsic motivation (’lighting a fire’). This encourages fostering a love for learning rather than just rote memorization.

21. Strengthen Immune System via Ayurveda

Adopt an Ayurvedic approach to health by focusing on strengthening your immune system through specific herbs, supplements, and diet, rather than solely relying on medication to cure disease. This aims to build natural resistance and overall vitality.

22. Optimize Living Space with Vastu

Apply Vastu architecture principles to your living environment by considering practical elements like natural sunlight and ventilation. This approach, similar to green architecture, aims to create a healthier and more harmonious indoor space.

23. Master Transcendence Quickly (TM Claim)

The ability to transcend is presented as everyone’s birthright, not an acquired skill taking months or years, but something that can be mastered within a few days through Transcendental Meditation. This suggests a rapid path to experiencing deeper states of consciousness.

24. Explore Advanced Yoga Sutra Practices

For advanced practitioners, consider exploring the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which describe techniques like ‘yogic flying’ (hopping like frogs). This practice integrates yoga and meditation, aiming to harness deeper laws of nature and provide an energizing, blissful inner experience.

25. Honor Tradition in Learning Meditation

Before learning Transcendental Meditation, participate in a brief ‘ceremony of Thanksgiving’ to honor the tradition of teachers who came before. This cultural, non-religious practice serves as a reminder of the lineage and depth of the technique.

26. Locate TM Teachers via Website

To find a certified Transcendental Meditation teacher, visit the TM.org website. Teachers are available globally and often travel to smaller towns, or you can visit a TM center in a larger community.

27. Contact Bob Roth for TM Questions

If you have questions, complaints, or concerns about Transcendental Meditation, you can email Bob Roth directly at [email protected]. He personally answers emails and offers to connect you with relevant resources if he cannot answer himself.

You could be 100% skeptical, and the technique would work just as well as anything else.

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The deep nature of the mind is to be drawn to something more satisfying.

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I love the Beatles, but they actually set my work back 30 years.

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It's not one or the other. It's yes, and.

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Every person is a universe.

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Learning Transcendental Meditation

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  1. Attend an introductory talk.
  2. Receive one-to-one instruction from a certified teacher.
  3. Engage in about 10 hours of instruction individually and in small groups over four days (typically an hour a day).
  4. Practice the technique for 20 minutes, twice a day.
  5. Receive ongoing support from any TM teacher worldwide at no additional expense.
30 to 40 percent
Cortisol level reduction during TM Reduction in cortisol levels and reactivity to stress
600,000
David Lynch Foundation scholarships provided Scholarships for inner-city school kids to learn TM
$2.5 million
Department of Defense grant for TM study For a study on TM's effect on post-traumatic stress in post-9/11 veterans
20 to 50 cycles per second
Gamma brainwave cycles per second Associated with focused attention meditation
5 to 7 cycles per second
Theta brainwave cycles per second Associated with open monitoring meditation
10 to 12 cycles per second
Alpha 2 brainwave cycles per second Associated with open monitoring meditation (back of the brain)
8 to 10 cycles per second
Alpha 1 brainwave cycles per second Associated with Transcendental Meditation (deep relaxation and inner wakefulness)
$960
Cost to learn TM (high end) If a person can afford it
$360
Cost to learn TM (low end) If a person can't afford it, down to nothing if they have no money
$60,000 per year
TM teacher salary (David Lynch Foundation) For teachers working with the David Lynch Foundation to teach for free