Can Meditation Prolong Your Life?, Dr. Peter Attia

Aug 28, 2019 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Peter Attia, founder of Attia Medical, discusses how meditation, particularly mindfulness-based practices, has profoundly impacted his emotional health, making him less reactive and happier. He also shares his holistic approach to longevity, emphasizing nutrition, sleep, emotional health, and exercise.

At a Glance
28 Insights
1h 30m Duration
14 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Peter Attia and meditation for longevity

Peter Attia's personal journey into meditation

Transition from TM to mindfulness-based meditation

Profound impact of meditation on Peter's emotional reactivity

Childhood inferiority and the roots of Peter's intense drive

Reconciling intense pursuits with joy versus self-inflicted misery

Meditation's effect on 'edge' and shifting life priorities

Personal trauma and the path to self-awareness and therapy

Understanding the 'wounded child' and 'adapted child' mental model

Peter Attia's philosophy on longevity, healthspan, and lifespan

The 'Centenarian Olympics' as a framework for functional training

Practical recommendations for nutrition, sleep, and exercise

Listener questions: Meditation for insomnia

Listener questions: Sleepiness during meditation

Lifespan

This refers to the duration of one's life, focusing simply on how long an individual lives. Peter Attia's medical practice initially emphasized extending this by delaying the onset of chronic diseases.

Healthspan

This concept describes the quality of one's life, specifically how well one lives. It encompasses cognitive, physical, and emotional well-being, and is often improved in conjunction with efforts to extend lifespan.

Squaring the Longevity Curve

This is a goal in longevity medicine that aims to extend the period of healthy, active life and then have a rapid, short decline at the very end. It means living both longer and better, with less suffering in old age.

Wounded Child/Adapted Child

This mental model from therapy describes how a child, after experiencing trauma or significant wounds, develops adaptations to cope with their environment. While these adaptations can be protective initially, they may become maladaptive in adulthood, hindering healthy emotional functioning.

Centenarian Olympics

A personal framework developed by Peter Attia for physical training, focusing on the specific functional activities one needs to be able to perform in their nineties to maintain a high quality of life. It shifts the goal of exercise from competitive metrics to long-term functional ability.

Zone 2 Aerobic Training

This type of exercise is performed at an intensity level where one is at the limit of their ability to talk, corresponding to about 75-80% of maximum heart rate. Its primary goal is to maximize mitochondrial efficiency and forms a foundational component of Peter Attia's exercise recommendations.

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Can meditation help people live longer and be healthier?

Yes, Peter Attia believes meditation is part of his recipe for helping patients live longer and improve their healthspan, particularly by enhancing emotional well-being, which impacts overall health.

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What is the difference between TM (Transcendental Meditation) and mindfulness-based meditation?

TM typically strengthens focus and injects calm, while mindfulness-based practices cultivate the ability to observe thoughts, impulses, and emotions without being controlled by them, helping to create distance from one's mind.

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How does emotional health impact longevity?

Emotional health absolutely affects longevity, as the quality of relationships is a strong predictor of a happy life, and a better quality of life often correlates with a longer, healthier one.

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What are the five tools of healing in Peter Attia's medical practice?

The five tools are nutrition/nutritional biochemistry, exercise/exercise physiology, sleep, emotional health (including meditation), and molecules (drugs, hormones, supplements), though only the last one is typically compensated in the medical system.

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How can one avoid body worship and self-absorption while pursuing physical excellence for longevity?

Peter Attia suggests shifting focus from external metrics (like visible abs) to functional fitness, training for activities one wants to do in old age (e.g., the 'Centenarian Olympics'), and prioritizing relationships over physical appearance.

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What are some key strategies for improving sleep?

A crucial strategy is to have a fixed wake-up time and adjust bedtime to ensure 7.5 to 8.5 hours of sleep per night, accounting for about 30 minutes of non-sleep time in bed.

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Why do people often feel sleepy during meditation?

Sleepiness during meditation is common because the nervous system may associate stillness and closed eyes with sleep, or there might be an imbalance between energy and concentration. It can also be a defense mechanism to avoid uncomfortable thoughts or feelings.

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What can be done to counteract sleepiness during meditation?

To counter sleepiness, one can try bringing more energy into the practice by sitting straighter, taking deep breaths, focusing on the in-breath (which has more energy), opening eyes, standing up, or using more energetic techniques like loving-kindness or body scans.

1. Nurture Quality Relationships

Make the quality of your relationships a high priority, as it is generally the strongest predictor for the overall quality and happiness of your life.

2. Expand Your Emotional Toolkit

Engage in therapy to identify and move beyond early childhood adaptations (e.g., obsession, emotional detachment, rage) that may have once been protective but are now maladaptive, aiming to develop a broader range of functional adult emotional tools.

3. Retire Your Loyal Soldier

Identify the ’loyal soldiers’ – unseen, early-life adaptations like anger or self-centeredness – that once served to protect you; acknowledge their service, but consciously tell them ’the war’s over’ to prevent them from driving your adult behavior.

4. Examine Your Objects of Worship

Reflect on what you truly worship (e.g., intellect, body, money, power) and recognize that these can be detrimental, leading to eventual decline and unhappiness. Shift focus to values like relationality that are not in decline with age.

5. Prioritize Happiness Over ‘Edge’

Be willing to accept a reduction in raw performance metrics if it leads to a significant improvement in happiness, relationship quality, and being a better parent.

6. Adopt a Meditation Practice

Integrate a meditation practice into your life for emotional health, noting that while mindfulness-based practices are generally beneficial, Transcendental Meditation (TM) may be a more suitable starting point for individuals with PTSD.

7. Tailor Meditation to Goals

Select a meditation practice that aligns with your specific goals; for example, TM can enhance focus and calm, while mindfulness-based practices help you observe thoughts and emotions without being controlled by them.

8. Square Your Longevity Curve

Aim to ‘square the longevity curve’ by delaying the onset of chronic diseases like atherosclerosis and cancer, reducing accidental death risk, and avoiding smoking, which simultaneously improves both lifespan and quality of life.

9. Cultivate Holistic Health

Actively work on improving your cognitive, physical, and emotional health, as these three pillars are essential for living a fulfilling life, especially as physical and cognitive abilities naturally decline with age.

10. Design Your Centenarian Olympics

Create your own ‘centenarian Olympics’ by identifying the specific physical activities you want to be able to perform in your nineties (e.g., camping with great-grandkids), then base your training on these functional goals rather than current competitive metrics.

11. Engage in Four Exercise Pillars

Incorporate at least three of the four essential exercise pillars for healthy aging: stability (e.g., pelvic floor work), strength training (lifting weights), Zone 2 aerobic training (3 hours/week at 75-80% max heart rate), and neuromuscular anaerobic peak training (1-3 times/week).

12. Optimize Sleep Duration & Timing

Prioritize obtaining 7.5 to 8.5 hours of sleep each night by establishing a fixed wake-up time and adjusting your bedtime accordingly, remembering to factor in about 30 minutes of non-sleeping time in bed.

13. Explore Intermittent Fasting

Begin practicing intermittent fasting, specifically time-restricted feeding, by limiting your eating window to about 8 hours daily (e.g., noon to 8 p.m.) and fasting for the remaining 16 hours, as it’s a crucial nutritional tool for longevity.

14. Be a Less Reactive Parent

Utilize meditation to become a less reactive parent, which helps you respond more calmly to your children’s challenging behaviors and triggers.

15. Reduce Reactivity with Meditation

Engage in a consistent meditation practice to become less angry and reactive, particularly towards circumstances perceived as beyond your control, such as travel delays.

16. Prioritize Family Presence

Recognize that your children value your attention and shared experiences (like eating together) far more than your physical appearance or personal achievements, making family presence a worthwhile trade-off.

17. Contemplate Your Finite Nature

Regularly reflect on your finite nature (aging, illness, death) to make your present life more vibrant and prevent sleepwalking through it.

18. Periodically Detach from Electronics

Voluntarily disconnect from electronics and external communication for a period to foster presence and gain a deeper understanding of your inner state.

19. Reframe Distraction as Practice

In meditation, view noticing a wandering mind and returning to the breath as the core practice, not a failure; apply this mindset to other life areas to embrace setbacks as opportunities for ‘bicep curls’ of effort.

20. Assess Trauma with Child Litmus Test

Evaluate past difficult experiences by asking if you would be okay with your own child enduring them; if not, it likely indicates an unhealthy traumatic event that warrants deeper processing.

21. Write Letters to Your Adaptive Child

Write letters to your ‘adaptive child’ self, expressing gratitude for how it protected you through difficult times, but then firmly setting boundaries, asking it to step back and allow your functional adult self to lead.

22. Surrender to Insomnia

When experiencing insomnia, rather than fighting or worrying, practice surrendering to wakefulness and accept the present moment; this shift in mindset can calm the nervous system and potentially lead back to sleep, or allow you to use the time productively (e.g., meditating).

23. Calming Meditation for Sleep

To counter insomnia, focus on the calming aspects of meditation, such as tuning into the ease of the out-breath or performing a body scan to intentionally relax each part of your body.

24. Utilize Guided Sleep Meditations

When struggling with insomnia, listen to guided sleep meditations, as hearing another person’s voice can help quiet mental chatter and support the mind in drifting off to sleep.

25. Be Patient with Meditation Sleepiness

If you feel sleepy during meditation, be patient and understand that your nervous system may be associating stillness with sleep; with continued practice, your body will learn to remain alert while calm.

26. Adjust Energy to Counter Sleepiness

If you feel sleepy during meditation, assess if there’s enough energy; try to increase alertness by sitting straighter, taking deep breaths, focusing on the energizing in-breath, opening your eyes, or even meditating while standing or walking.

27. Investigate Emotional Avoidance

If persistent sleepiness occurs during meditation, sincerely investigate whether it might be a defense mechanism to avoid uncomfortable thoughts or emotions you are not wanting to feel or deal with.

28. Vary Meditation Posture/Technique

To combat sleepiness during meditation, try changing your posture to standing or walking, or switch to a more energetic technique such as loving-kindness phrases or a body scan.

Even If being happier didn't extend your life one day, even if it shortened your life a day, wouldn't it be worth it?

Peter Attia

I think TM has some amazing benefits, but for the problems I needed solving, I don't think it was the right tool... I needed to figure out a way to distance myself from my thoughts. I needed a way to understand that I was not my thoughts.

Peter Attia

I'm maybe one of the few people who comes to meditation willing to accept a 20% reduction in my performance. In fact, kind of hoping for it because if it comes with a 50% improvement in my happiness and in the quality of my relationships, and if it makes me a better dad, honestly, I'll take that all day long.

Peter Attia

No one's an atheist, everybody worships. I mean, everybody worships something. You worship your intellect, you worship your body, you worship money, you worship power, you worship something.

Peter Attia

The person who worships their intellect will always feel like an imposter... The person who worships their body will, as he puts it, you know, die a thousand deaths as time takes its toll on their body inevitably.

Peter Attia

The quality of your life is generally proxied by the quality of your relationships.

Peter Attia

You only have three tools: obsession, emotional detachment, and rage.

Peter Attia

If you can look at an experience that happened to you and be okay with it happening to your child, then it's probably a lump that's worth taking. But if you look at a wound that happened to you and you would never want it, you would never stand for it happening to your own child, then it, it might cross the line and become actually unhealthy traumatic event.

Peter Attia

The hardest thing for me to sometimes explain to somebody who doesn't meditate is... every time you're meditating, you have a thought and then you have to come back to the breath. And so instead of thinking that as, oh, I failed because I had a thought, think of it as I got to do a curl because I got to come back to the breath.

Peter Attia

Centenarian Olympics Training

Peter Attia
  1. Pillar 1: Stability - Work on exercises that connect the upper and lower body and self to the ground, ensuring forces are transmitted safely through muscles, not loosely through joints.
  2. Pillar 2: Strength Training - Lift weights and do resistance training.
  3. Pillar 3: Mitochondrial/Zone 2 Aerobic Training - Engage in 3 hours per week of exercise at an exertion level where talking is difficult but not impossible (75-80% of max heart rate).
  4. Pillar 4 (Adjunct): Neuromuscular Anaerobic Peak Training - Perform small amounts of all-out, high-intensity exercise 1-3 times per week.

Addressing Sleepiness During Meditation

Oren J. Sofer
  1. Cultivate Energy: Sit up straighter, take a few deep breaths, focus on the in-breath (which has more energy), or try opening your eyes or standing up.
  2. Investigate Avoidance: Ask yourself if you are avoiding something you don't want to feel or deal with, as sleepiness can be a defense mechanism.
  3. Change Posture/Technique: If sleepiness persists, try standing or walking meditation, or switch to a technique requiring more energy, like loving-kindness phrases or a body scan.
  4. Be Patient: Allow sleepiness to come and go, recognizing that it may shift over time.

Mindfulness for Insomnia

Oren J. Sofer
  1. Remove Extra Stress: Become aware of and unplug the added layer of stress from worrying about not sleeping, accepting that you are awake.
  2. Surrender and Accept: Let go of fighting, worrying, or resisting sleep; fully accept being awake. This can help the nervous system calm down.
  3. Utilize Calming Aspects of Meditation: Focus on the out-breath for ease and tranquility, or do a body scan to consciously relax each body part.
  4. Use Guided Practices: Listen to guided meditations for sleep to quiet mental chatter and receive support.
6 hours and 40 minutes
Average American sleep per night, according to Peter Attia
7.5 to 8.5 hours
Recommended sleep per night, according to Peter Attia
At least half an hour
Non-sleep time in bed to account for when calculating total time in bed for sleep
Late thirties, early forties
Intellectual peak (raw horsepower) according to Peter Attia, referencing Arthur Brooks
10 to 15 years longer
Longevity extension potential with much higher quality, by optimizing five variables according to Peter Attia
18 activities
Centenarian Olympics events self-created by Peter Attia as a functional training framework