Dr. Amishi Jha & Maj. Gen. Walter Piatt

Jul 6, 2016 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Neuroscientist Dr. Amishi Jha and Maj. Gen. Walter Piatt discuss their collaboration bringing mindfulness to military troops. Their work demonstrates how mindfulness training improves attention, emotional regulation, and decision-making, helping individuals in high-stress professions manage combat stress and enhance overall well-being.

At a Glance
16 Insights
54m 49s Duration
13 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Amishi Jha's Personal Journey to Meditation

Major General Walt Piatt's Introduction to Mindfulness

Initial Military Study on Mindfulness with Soldiers

Measuring Attention and Behavioral Changes in Soldiers

Expanding Mindfulness Research to High-Stress Groups

Challenges and Strategies for Scaling Mindfulness Training

The Role of Relatability in Mindfulness Training Delivery

Major General Piatt's Vision for Military Mindfulness Integration

Addressing Concerns About Mindfulness in the Military

Compassion as a Powerful Tool in Warfare

Personal Mindfulness Practices of the Guests

Future Vision for Mindfulness in Public Health

Critique of Mindfulness Science and Hype

Attention System

This is the brain system responsible for directing focus, which Amishi Jha studied as a neuroscientist. She realized her meditation practice was profoundly changing this system, leading her to shift her research focus to explore how mindfulness impacts attention.

Executive Control

A broader cognitive function that includes attention, enabling individuals to align their goals with their behavior. It's crucial for regulating emotions, communicating effectively, making decisions, and planning, and is often depleted in high-stress situations.

Cognitive Resilience

The ability to maintain or grow cognitive capacities, such as attention, during high-stress periods. Mindfulness training aims to build this resilience, protecting against the typical decline in attention and mood seen in individuals under prolonged stress.

Positivity Training

A type of training focused on cultivating a more positive mood, which was compared to mindfulness training in military studies. Research showed that if it lacked emphasis on present moment awareness and practice, its effects were no different than doing nothing.

Mindfulness of Breathing

A basic meditation exercise where one sits comfortably, pays attention to the sensations of breathing, and gently returns the mind when it wanders. This practice can then open up to more receptive, open monitoring practices, allowing thoughts and emotions to pass through.

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How did Dr. Amishi Jha first get into meditation?

Dr. Jha turned to meditation out of a personal need to manage the crippling stress of being a new faculty member and new mom. Her curiosity was sparked after Richie Davidson suggested meditation as a way to shift a 'negative brain' to a 'positive brain' profile.

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How did Major General Walt Piatt become involved with mindfulness?

Major General Piatt was introduced to mindfulness by Dr. Amishi Jha in 2009, as the Army sought new ways to help soldiers reintegrate post-deployment and manage stress. He was convinced by the scientific data presented by Dr. Jha, which explained what he and his sergeant major had been experiencing.

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What were the key findings of the initial military mindfulness study?

The study found that even eight hours of mindfulness training could provide benefits, but only if it included actual practice, not just didactic information. The group that practiced mindfulness maintained stable attention over time, while control groups experienced a decline.

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How does mindfulness training impact soldiers' behavior beyond attention?

While directly measuring behavioral improvement was anecdotal through self-reports, the training boosted attentional capacity, which is critical for executive control. This enabled soldiers to regulate emotions, communicate better, and make decisions aligned with their ethical code, leading to personal shifts like reduced yelling at home and increased presence with family.

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What are the challenges in scaling mindfulness training within the military?

Challenges include skepticism from some leaders, the difficulty of carving out time in an already overloaded schedule, and finding effective trainers. While apps offer scalability, in-person pedagogy, especially from trainers who can relate to the military culture, has proven more impactful so far.

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How does Major General Piatt reconcile mindfulness with military service?

He believes mindfulness enhances a soldier's ability to make better, more ethical decisions in complex, stressful environments, preventing reactive responses and promoting surgical precision in the use of force. He argues it's about training people to make wiser decisions and be more resilient, not to be 'better killers'.

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Is the science behind mindfulness and meditation trustworthy?

Dr. Jha acknowledges that the science is being hyped and that cultural momentum is outpacing scientific rigor. She advocates for more critical examination, including publishing studies with null or unexpected negative findings, to get a more accurate picture and address potential positivity biases.

1. Start Daily Mindfulness Practice

Commit to a daily mindfulness practice, such as mindfulness of breathing, for 15-20 minutes. This involves sitting in an upright, comfortable posture, paying attention to breath sensations, and gently returning your mind when it wanders, which can profoundly improve your presence and reduce angst.

2. Prioritize Mental Fitness Daily

Dedicate time daily to mental fitness, similar to how physical fitness is prioritized. This can involve short meditation sessions or mindful walks, which helps manage stress, improve decision-making, and enhance overall well-being.

3. Build Resilience Pre-Stress

Implement mindfulness training before entering high-stress situations or periods (e.g., combat deployment, exam finals). This proactive approach helps to protect against the normal decline in attention and mood, allowing you to handle trauma better and reduce post-traumatic stress.

4. Focus on Practice, Not Just Info

When engaging in mindfulness training, prioritize actual practice over didactic information about its benefits. Studies show that direct engagement with the practice, even for a limited time (e.g., 8 hours), leads to significant stability in attention, unlike just learning about it.

5. Incorporate Short Pauses & Reflection

Integrate short pauses, reflection, or mindful walks into your busy day, especially when feeling exhausted or overwhelmed. This counteracts the urge to multitask and can lead to greater efficiency and better decision-making.

6. Recognize & Address Stress Early

Pay attention to early signs of stress buildup, such as increased irritability or anger over minor issues, and proactively deal with them. This prevents minor stressors from escalating into more significant problems or disorders.

7. Use Writing for Emotional Release

Engage in writing as a therapeutic tool to process difficult emotions and honor experiences. This can be a powerful way to let go of emotional burdens and gain perspective.

8. Tailor Training to Culture

When introducing mindfulness or similar practices to a specific group, ensure the trainers can relate to the participants’ culture and context. This approach, like using Army sports psychologists for soldiers, enhances appreciation, follow-through, and benefits from the training.

9. Seek Coaching for App-Based Mindfulness

If using mindfulness apps, look for those that incorporate some form of human coaching or are bookended by in-person sessions. App-only approaches often show no significant difference from other apps or doing nothing, highlighting the importance of human interaction for accountability and guidance.

10. Challenge Multitasking for Efficiency

Re-evaluate the belief that multitasking leads to effectiveness, especially in complex environments. Instead, embrace taking pauses and engaging in reflection to achieve tasks more efficiently and with greater focus.

11. Lead with Science for New Ideas

When introducing new or unconventional practices, such as mindfulness, lead with scientific evidence to build credibility and conviction. This helps overcome initial skepticism and encourages adoption.

12. Embrace Compassion in Strategy

Recognize that compassion and understanding can be more powerful and effective strategic tools than the overuse of force, especially in complex situations. Applying force incorrectly can backfire by building sympathy for adversaries.

13. Broaden Focus Beyond Immediate Threat

Avoid tunnel vision on immediate adversaries and instead consider the broader, more complex systemic threats or challenges. This wider perspective allows for more effective and sustainable solutions.

14. Integrate Mental Fitness in Foundational Training

Advocate for and integrate mental fitness training, like mindfulness, into foundational training programs for high-stress professions (e.g., military basic training). This can reduce stress from the outset and build essential coping skills.

15. Introduce Mindfulness Indirectly

Consider introducing mindfulness through indirect channels, such as offering training to family members (e.g., military spouses). This can create a ‘Trojan horse’ effect, where benefits observed by family members lead to interest and adoption by the primary target group.

16. Be Critical of Mindfulness Hype

Maintain a critical perspective on the science of mindfulness, acknowledging that cultural momentum sometimes outpaces scientific rigor. Value studies that report no benefits or even negative effects, as these contribute to a more accurate and balanced understanding of its efficacy.

Compassion is more powerful than bullets.

Major General Walt Piatt

If we focus on the enemy, we ignore the threat because the threat is much larger.

Major General Walt Piatt

If you're going to have an 18-year-old and send him to a war zone with a weapon that can destroy an entire village, why wouldn't you want to make sure he has access to his full capacities to make the right decisions?

Dr. Amishi Jha

We're training people to kill fewer babies, you know, to make wiser, more effective decisions in the field and to be more resilient when they come home.

Liz Stanley (quoted by Dan Harris)

I think that the cultural momentum is way outpacing the rigor that we need to be able to make concrete with certainty guidance, provide guidance. And I do think that we have to take a look at any positivity biases there might be.

Dr. Amishi Jha

We don't do any time for our mental fitness. And that's one of our most powerful weapons, really. Weapon is the soldier's mind itself.

Major General Walt Piatt

Basic Mindfulness of Breathing Exercise

Dr. Amishi Jha
  1. Sit in an upright, comfortable posture.
  2. Pay attention to the sensations of breathing.
  3. When the mind wanders, gently return it to the breath.
  4. Open up to more receptive practices, allowing any thoughts, emotions, or sensations to come and then pass through.

Major General Piatt's Daily Mental Fitness Routine

Major General Walt Piatt
  1. Complete first meetings/briefings (e.g., 6:30 AM, 7:00 AM).
  2. Engage in a 20-minute physical workout.
  3. Find a quiet corner (office or gym) for 5-10 minutes of breath-focused meditation.
  4. During the day, take additional 5-10 minute breaks for mindful walking or sitting, especially when feeling exhausted (e.g., by 10 AM).

Dr. Amishi Jha's Daily Meditation Practice

Dr. Amishi Jha
  1. Carve out 30 minutes of time after children and husband have left the house.
  2. Combine mindfulness practice with a compassion practice, such as loving-kindness meditation.
15 to 20 minutes
Amishi Jha's initial personal meditation practice duration Daily practice that profoundly changed her life and shifted her lab's research focus.
more than 35 years
Major General Piatt's military career length Began as an enlisted soldier in 1979.
2009
Year of the first military mindfulness study Conducted with soldiers in Schofield Barracks, Hawaii, after a deployment to Iraq.
about 200
Number of soldiers in the initial military mindfulness research project Participated in the study in Schofield Barracks, Hawaii.
8 weeks
Duration of the mindfulness training period in the study Devoted to the training for different groups.
24, 16, and 8 hours
Total hours of training for different groups in the study Varied doses of training over the eight-week period.
8 hours
Minimum effective training duration found in the study Found to still provide benefits, but only if it included practice, not just didactic information.
at least an hour
Major General Piatt's daily physical fitness time in the military Carved out every day for physical fitness, highlighting a contrast with mental fitness.
5 to 10 minutes
Major General Piatt's daily meditation practice duration Done every morning, sometimes also during the day, due to a demanding job schedule.
30 minutes
Dr. Amishi Jha's preferred daily meditation practice duration Combines mindfulness with a compassion practice, feeling better when pushing past 12 minutes.
12 minutes
Dr. Amishi Jha's 'sweet spot' for practice duration in some studies The duration that seemed to yield benefits in her research.