Dr. David Vago, This Is Your Brain on Meditation

Dec 6, 2017 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Neuroscientist Dave Vago, research director at Vanderbilt's Osher Center for Integrative Medicine, discusses the burgeoning science of meditation, brain changes, and the need for rigor in defining mindfulness. He shares insights on how meditation impacts the brain and body.

At a Glance
25 Insights
58m 31s Duration
14 Topics
10 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Dave Vago's Personal Journey into Meditation

Synchronicity and Purpose as Life Signposts

First 10-Day Silent Vipassana Retreat Experience

Early Challenges and Turning Points in Meditation Research

Shinzen Young's Algorithmic Noting and Labeling Technique

Neurobiological Effects of Noting: Emotion Regulation

Cessation Experiences (Nirodha Samapati) in the fMRI Scanner

Brain Regions Affected by Meditation Practice

Critique of Meditation Science and Media Hype

Meditation's Efficacy Compared to Antidepressants

Meditation's Impact on Inflammation and Disease Progression

Mindfulness and Different Types of Sleep Problems

Overview of the 10% Happier App Course with Dave Vago

Six Mechanisms by Which Mindfulness Works

Synchronicity

Meaningful coincidences that can be viewed as signposts guiding one's life path, often leading to a sense of purpose and meaning. Dave Vago describes his entry into meditation and neuroscience as a series of such synchronicities.

Atman

From the Hindu tradition, this concept refers to an eternal, permanent sense of everlasting self, which is considered dualistic with the conventional self (hopes, fears, self-identity) and the physical body.

No Self (Anatta)

The Buddhist conception that there is no permanent, unchanging self that can be truly identified. This idea posits that all aspects of a person are constantly in flux and always changing.

Noting and Labeling

An algorithmic meditation technique, derived from Burmese Mahasi Sayada tradition and taught by Shinzen Young, where one identifies and labels mental habits as they arise (e.g., breathing, image, sound, doubt). This practice helps create psychological distance from thoughts and emotions.

Psychological Distance

The separation created between an individual and their thoughts or emotions through practices like noting and labeling. This distance allows for non-judgmental observation and effectively downregulates the brain's emotional response, such as amygdala reactivity.

Cessation Experience (Nirodha Samapati)

An advanced meditative state, also referred to as 'gone with a big G' or correlating with Nirvana, where all time and space drop away, and duality disappears. It is a non-dual experience where the meditator becomes part of the world without separation.

Default Mode Network (DMN)

A brain network that is most frequently active when the mind is not engaged in a specific task, often associated with mind-wandering, self-narrative, worrying, or fantasizing about the past or future. During meditation, activity in this network typically decreases.

Equanimity

A state developed through meditation where one responds to emotional stimuli with a strong initial reaction but recovers faster. It involves approaching emotions with clarity rather than avoiding them, allowing for rapid emotional recovery.

Extinction and Reconsolidation

A mechanism of mindfulness where maladaptive or 'bad' mental habits are extinguished and replaced with more adaptive, automatic mental habits. This process retrains the brain to be more responsive and flexible.

Sensory Clarity

A mechanism of mindfulness that involves a more embodied, bottom-up approach to experiencing the world, focusing on physical sensations rather than anticipating or expecting things. It helps individuals to be less 'stuck in their head' and more present.

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What is the 'no self' concept in Buddhism?

The Buddhist idea of 'no self' (Anatta) posits that there is no permanent, unchanging self that can be identified, as all aspects of a person are constantly in flux and always changing.

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How does noting and labeling help regulate emotions?

Noting and labeling creates psychological distance between an individual and their thoughts/emotions, allowing for non-judgmental observation. This process can effectively downregulate amygdala reactivity to emotional stimuli.

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What is a 'cessation experience' in meditation?

A cessation experience, also known as Nirodha Samapati or 'gone with a big G,' is an advanced meditative state where all time and space drop away, and duality disappears, leading to a non-dual experience.

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What brain regions are primarily affected by meditation practice?

Meditation practice can lead to changes in size and function in the frontal polar cortex, insula, dorsal anterior cingulate cortex, and parts of the inferior parietal lobe, which are part of the frontal parietal control network. It also decreases activity in the default mode network.

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Is the science of meditation 'shoddy' or 'bunk'?

No, the science of meditation is young but not shoddy. While there's hype and many studies lack rigorous controls, well-designed studies show moderate benefits, particularly for depression and anxiety, comparable to some pharmacological interventions.

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Can meditation help with sleep problems?

Meditation (mindfulness-based interventions) shows a decent effect size for improving sleep onset insomnia (difficulty falling asleep due to rumination). However, it may not be helpful for sleep maintenance insomnia (difficulty staying asleep), as advanced meditators often experience increased sleep inefficiency (more awakenings).

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What are the six mechanisms by which mindfulness works?

The six mechanisms are: intention and motivation (shifting from effortful to effortless practice), attention regulation (stability, control, engaging/disengaging from objects), emotion regulation (equanimity, inhibitory control), extinction and reconsolidation (replacing bad habits with adaptive ones), prosociality (shifting from self-focused to other-focused motivation), and sensory clarity (embodied, bottom-up experience).

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How does awareness regulate emotion without active strategies?

By simply being aware and observing emotions without judgment, the baseline activity in limbic regions (involved in generating memories and emotions) can decrease, making it harder for stress responses to escalate. This allows for rapid recovery and equanimity.

1. Regulate Emotion Through Awareness

Practice regulating emotions by simply being aware of them without judgment or active suppression, as this can decrease baseline activity in limbic regions (e.g., amygdala) and lower the threshold for emotional reactivity.

2. Practice Noting and Labeling

Use a noting and labeling technique by paying attention to whatever arises in your mind (e.g., breathing, image, sound, emotion) and giving it a simple label, which helps create psychological distance and non-judgmental observation.

3. Label Emotions to Regulate

Labeling your emotions (e.g., ‘doubt,’ ‘anger’) creates psychological distance from them, which is a form of emotion regulation that can downregulate amygdala reactivity and reduce the intensity of emotional responses.

4. Extinguish Bad Mental Habits

Utilize meditation to actively extinguish maladaptive mental habits and reconsolidate more adaptive ones, making beneficial mental patterns more automatic over time.

5. Cultivate Equanimity for Recovery

Aim to cultivate equanimity through practice, which allows you to experience emotions fully (even intensely) but recover from them more rapidly, rather than avoiding or suppressing them.

6. Improve Attention Regulation

Practice meditation to improve attention regulation by learning to sustain attention on an object, engage with it, and then flexibly disengage to shift focus, preventing getting stuck on thoughts or distractions.

7. Develop Sensory Clarity

Practice developing sensory clarity by focusing on bodily sensations and experiencing the world in a ‘bottom-up’ way, rather than being stuck in anticipatory or conceptual thinking, leading to a more authentic experience.

8. Cultivate Prosocial Motivation

Engage in meditation with the understanding that while initial motivations may be self-focused, sustained practice often shifts motivation towards prosociality, fostering empathy and a desire to help others, which also benefits you.

9. Acknowledge and Tackle Obstacles

When facing a new habit like meditation, systematically identify and list all perceived obstacles (e.g., ’no time,’ ’lose my edge,’ ‘mind too busy’) to tackle them one by one, rather than letting them prevent practice.

10. Maintain Brain Health with Meditation

Practice meditation to potentially increase the size and function of brain regions involved in sustained attention and meta-awareness (frontal polar cortex, insula, dorsal anterior cingulate cortex) and decrease activity in the default mode network, which is linked to mind-wandering.

11. Slow Brain Atrophy with Meditation

Engage in meditation practice to potentially slow down the natural atrophy (shrinking) of your brain, particularly in key regions like the frontal polar cortex and insula, which are important for cognitive function.

12. Combine Meditation with Treatments

Consider incorporating meditation into your routine, especially for conditions like depression and anxiety, as it can be as effective as antidepressants and can be combined with other treatments (e.g., exercise, medication, sleep, diet) for a comprehensive approach.

13. Leverage Mind for Physical Health

Understand that mental training, such as meditation, can influence the expression of inflammatory genes, potentially decreasing inflammation across the body and slowing the progression of disease, highlighting the mind’s capacity to impact physical health.

14. Be Skeptical of Hype

When evaluating claims about meditation or other interventions, be cautious of media hype and look for rigorous scientific studies that use active controls to account for non-specific effects, ensuring that observed benefits are truly due to the practice itself.

15. View Life Events as Signposts

Instead of solely focusing on causal relationships, consider viewing meaningful coincidences and life experiences as ‘signposts’ that can guide your path and provide inspiration for difficult questions.

16. Prioritize Purpose and Meaning

Recognize that purpose and meaning in life are key metrics for well-being and happiness, suggesting that actively seeking and cultivating these aspects can contribute to overall happiness.

17. Pursue Interests Despite Skepticism

If you have a strong, deep interest in a particular area, continue to pursue it, even if mentors or peers express skepticism about its career or life utility, as it may eventually align with your path.

18. Meditate for Sleep Onset Insomnia

If you experience difficulty falling asleep due to rumination or being ‘in your head,’ practice meditation or mindfulness-based interventions, as they can effectively improve sleep onset insomnia.

19. Use Science for Motivation

If you find it difficult to start or maintain a practice like meditation, leverage scientific evidence and understanding of its benefits on the brain and body as a powerful source of motivation.

20. Develop Effortless Practice

Understand that consistent practice of meditation can shift your experience from effortful to effortless, as your brain becomes retrained to be more adaptive and the practice becomes more automatic.

21. Attend Free Silent Retreats

Consider attending a free 10-day silent Vipassana meditation retreat (Goenka style) as a profound way to gain insight into your own mind and understand emotion regulation and attentional control.

22. Note in Three Modalities

When practicing noting and labeling, specifically focus on categorizing experiences into three modalities: visual, auditory, and somatic, to delineate and understand different types of mental events.

23. Choose Meditation Method Wisely

Recognize that different meditation delivery methods (e.g., apps vs. 10-day retreats) suit different people, and what works for one person may not work for another, implying a need to find what’s beneficial for you.

24. Seek Guidance When Interested

If you show interest in a practice like meditation, seek recommendations or guidance from others who are knowledgeable, as this can be a starting point for your own journey.

25. Explore Neuroscience Resources

To learn more about meditation and its scientific basis, visit contemplative neurosciences.com or the Mind and Life Institute website for resources and information on research centers.

You can either look at the sort of causal relations of how you, you know, certain things led up to a sort of an occurrence that was meaningful in some way, or you can look at it as a signpost.

Dave Vago

I can have a belief in a spiritual experience and what something, what a spiritual experience means to me, for example, but to better understand what it is from a neurobiological point of view is much more difficult.

Dave Vago

My advisor was very against it. He basically said, Dave, you need to stop thinking about all this Zen stuff. It's not going to be helpful for your career. You're not going to be successful in academia.

Dave Vago

In essence, you're separating the psychological distance that you're creating between you and your thoughts is, is, um, a form of emotion regulation.

Dave Vago

Gone with a big G is a cessation experience when all time and space drops away and there's no duality between things. It's this non-dual experience.

Dave Vago

Neuroimaging is only like 40, 50 years old. And only in the last 17 years has meditation been under the lens of neuroimaging.

Dave Vago

The Buddha, if you translate the word Buddha, it just means awake. You know, the point is not to sleep. The point is to be awake.

Dave Vago

Most people who study emotion regulation don't talk about awareness and awareness alone without judgment as a form of regulation. But that's exactly what we're seeing.

Dave Vago

I just wanted to decrease stress, and now I care about other people. Yeah, I know. It's annoying.

Dan Harris

Goenka 10-Day Silent Vipassana Meditation Retreat

Dave Vago
  1. Attend a 10-day silent meditation retreat.
  2. Refrain from speaking, except to teachers in the evening for questions.
  3. Observe gender separation (men and women are separate).
  4. Meditate all day, typically on a wooden plank bed.
  5. Do not write in a notebook or use phones (back then).

Shinzen Young's Noting and Labeling Technique

Dave Vago
  1. Focus attention on whatever object arises in experience (visual, auditory, or somatic modalities).
  2. Note the object's presence.
  3. Label the object with a specific category (e.g., breathing, image, sound, taste, doubt).
  4. Practice 'Rest' by focusing on the absence of any stimulus, allowing for a restful state.
40-50 years
Age of neuroimaging field General neuroimaging field
17 years
Meditation under neuroimaging lens Time meditation has been studied with neuroimaging
21
Neuroimaging studies on structural changes from meditation Total number of studies
80
Neuroimaging studies on functional changes from meditation Total number of studies
25
High-quality functional neuroimaging studies on meditation Out of 80 total functional studies
1 neuron per day
Neuron loss rate Starting from age 21
6,000
Total meditation research articles Explosion of research in recent years
47
Rigorous clinical outcome studies on mindfulness-based interventions Out of 18,000 studies, identified in a 2014 meta-analysis using active controls
12 seconds
Time for blood flow changes in fMRI Slow response for blood changes to occur from a particular brain state
8 weeks
Typical duration of a mindfulness-based intervention Standard model based on John Kabat-Zinn's MBSR course
Twice the size
Horizontal spacing distance between neurons in frontal polar cortex Compared to any other part of the human brain, allowing for more connectivity