Escape from Zombieland, Koshin Paley Ellison

Jul 24, 2019 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Zen teacher and psychotherapist Koshin Paley Ellison discusses "Zombieland" (social isolation) and the importance of intimacy, defined as allowing oneself to be spontaneous and present. He shares insights from his book "Wholehearted" on fostering deeper connections and personal growth.

At a Glance
22 Insights
1h 30m Duration
16 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Koshin Paley Ellison and Zombieland

Defining Zombieland and the Pervasiveness of Distraction

Social Isolation: A Modern Pandemic and Its Costs

The Role of Healthy Embarrassment and Finding Your Community

Evolutionary Basis for Social Connection and the 'Find Your Five' Concept

Cultivating Deeper Relationships Through Everyday Interactions

Intimacy Defined as Complete Presence and Spontaneity

The Importance of Spontaneity in Zen and Daily Life

Meditation as a Superpower Training for Bearing Difficult Emotions

The Hara: A Zen Meditation Focus Point for Embodiment

Koshin's Personal Story: Humility and Learning from a Patient

Confronting Personal Trauma and Victim Mentality

Practicing Compassion While Facing Online Harassment

The 'Black Bag' of Unexamined Issues and Wholehearted Living

Listener Voicemail: Reconciling Mindfulness with a Busy Life

Listener Voicemail: Accounting for Meditation Time

Zombieland

This term describes a state where people move through life engrossed in distractions, primarily their phones, appearing disconnected and hungry for something inside their devices. It leads to social isolation, fragmentation, and a lack of genuine connection, mirroring the pervasive zombie narratives in popular culture.

Intimacy

Koshin defines intimacy as completely allowing yourself to be wherever you are in a spontaneous way, applicable to any relationship from romantic partners to casual acquaintances. His goal is to make it a widely aspirational skill, similar to how mindfulness has become more mainstream.

Healthy Embarrassment

This is a feeling of exposure or vulnerability that, when allowed and explored with curiosity, can lead to deeper self-awareness and richer, more loving relationships. It's distinguished from shame, which implies something is inherently wrong with oneself, by allowing for reflection and openness rather than hiding.

Spontaneity (Zen context)

In Zen, spontaneity is the willingness to be completely present with 'what's needed, what's next, what's now,' connecting to the vast expanse of life rather than being stuck in one's own thoughts or planning. It involves being fully available, interested, and responsive to the current experience, like a cat's natural presence.

Hara

The Hara is a specific point of focus in Zen meditation, located two inches below the belly button, considered the center of the body. Focusing attention here allows for a fully embodied meditation experience, deepening the connection to the breath and body, and grounding one's presence.

Contemplative Care

This practice, often in hospice or healthcare settings, involves training people to be present and intimate with sick and dying individuals. Its underlying purpose is to help people face their fears in relationships, thereby fostering greater spontaneity and intimacy in all aspects of their lives, from neighbors to family.

Black Bag

This metaphor refers to the unexamined, often dark or difficult personal issues, traumas, and old stories that individuals carry with them. If these contents are not acknowledged and addressed, they can unconsciously 'bleed' into behavior and relationships, hindering genuine intimacy and personal growth.

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What is Zombieland?

It describes a state where people are physically present but mentally engrossed in distractions, primarily their phones, leading to a profound sense of social isolation and a lack of genuine connection with their surroundings and other people.

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What is the evolutionary basis for social connection?

Humans are wired for social connection because, from an evolutionary perspective, being isolated or 'a lonely monkey' meant death, as early humans relied on their tribe for survival.

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How can individuals combat social isolation in their daily lives?

One key step is to cultivate 'healthy embarrassment' about one's own self-centered behaviors and to actively seek out and make time for genuine connections, starting with curiosity about people in one's immediate environment (e.g., baristas, neighbors).

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What is the 'find your five' concept?

It's a practice of identifying five people in your life whom you could call, and no matter what, they would show up for you, serving as a measure of one's core community and support system.

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How does Koshin Paley Ellison define intimacy?

He defines intimacy as completely allowing yourself to be wherever you are in a spontaneous way, extending beyond romantic relationships to include all interactions where one is fully present and available.

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What is the role of spontaneity in Zen and daily life?

Spontaneity in Zen is the willingness to be fully present with 'what's needed, what's next, what's now,' connecting to the vastness of life without being stuck in one's thoughts. It's crucial for being adaptable and fully engaged in any situation.

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Is meditation necessary for cultivating intimacy and self-awareness?

While not definitively stated as the only way, meditation is described as an 'amazing way' to learn how to be fully present in one's experience, bear difficult emotions, and develop the confidence to face what one thinks they cannot bear, which are foundational for intimacy.

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What is the Hara in Zen meditation?

The Hara is a specific point of focus in Zen meditation, located two inches below the belly button, considered the body's center. Focusing attention here helps ground the meditation practice, making it fully embodied and deepening the experience of the breath.

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Can one do a significant amount of meditation and still have personal flaws or 'be an idiot'?

Yes, the episode highlights that even with extensive meditation practice, individuals can still exhibit self-centeredness, judgment, or other unskillful behaviors, emphasizing that meditation is a continuous practice, not a one-time cure.

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How can one practice compassion when being targeted by hate or abuse?

Practicing compassion in such situations involves not letting the hatred overcome oneself, digging deep into one's practice, and recognizing that true compassion must extend even to those who cause harm, while still upholding accountability for their actions.

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What is the 'black bag' metaphor?

It refers to the unexamined, often dark or difficult personal issues and past traumas that individuals carry. Acknowledging and exploring the contents of this 'black bag' is essential for genuine intimacy and personal growth, as unaddressed issues can unconsciously impact behavior and relationships.

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How should one account for daily life mindfulness activities (like mindful eating or walking) when tracking meditation time?

While there's no strict rule, one perspective suggests that mindful daily activities, though beneficial for overall mindfulness, do not typically 'count' as formal seated meditation time. Formal seated practice is distinct, and daily life mindfulness is an aspiration in addition to it.

1. Examine Your Inner “Black Bag”

Honestly examine the “black bag” of dark experiences and old stories you carry, such as a victim mentality, because unaddressed, these hidden aspects will negatively impact your behavior and relationships, hindering true intimacy.

2. Practice Spontaneous Presence

Completely allow yourself to be wherever you are in a spontaneous and available way, as this is Koshin’s definition of intimacy and leads to richer, more loving relationships and a more dynamic life.

3. Identify Your Core Community

Reflect on and identify five people who you know would show up for you no matter what, as building this core community is crucial to combat social isolation and fulfill our innate need for social connection.

4. Meditate for Self-Acceptance

Engage in meditation to learn how to stay present with your experiences, soften into difficult feelings, and build the confidence to bear what you previously thought unbearable, fostering self-acceptance.

5. Embrace Healthy Embarrassment

Allow yourself to feel healthy embarrassment about your behaviors and vulnerabilities, as this can lead to greater self-awareness and open the door to richer, more loving relationships.

6. Cultivate Transparency

Develop the willingness to be more transparent in your relationships by sharing what you choose, when you choose, as this fosters deeper connections and a sense of being truly seen and heard.

7. Practice Direct Eye Contact

Practice maintaining eye contact during conversations, as this helps overcome the tendency to look away when feeling vulnerable and fosters deeper intimacy and presence in interactions.

8. Practice Everyday Curiosity

Cultivate curiosity about the people you encounter in your daily life, such as baristas or neighbors, as this can transform your moment-to-moment experience and foster a greater sense of connection.

9. Practice Soft Belly

Cultivate a “soft belly” awareness, particularly during challenging conversations, to ground yourself in the present moment and disengage from a racing mind.

10. Practice Compassion for Haters

Practice compassion for those who express hatred or cause harm, even while holding them accountable, to prevent being overcome by negativity and to cultivate genuine, unlimited compassion.

11. Ask Brave Questions

Practice asking real, brave, and curious questions in your relationships, as this is an act of intimacy and love that can lead to deeper connection and understanding.

12. Care for Inner Child

Learn to “grow up” by tenderly caring for the “little guy” or old stories residing within you, fostering self-love and integration for a more wholehearted life.

13. Notice Zombieland Behaviors

Pay attention to how your behaviors, especially with phones and social media, contribute to distraction and a lack of connection, as this “Zombieland” quality is a major concern leading to social isolation.

14. Slow Down, Help Out, Wake Up

Intentionally slow down your pace, be willing to help others, and “wake up” to the presence of people around you, as this simple approach enhances daily interactions and connection.

15. Perform Small Acts of Kindness

Engage in small acts of kindness, such as holding a door open for someone, because these positive interactions feel good and can be scaled infinitely throughout your day.

16. Focus on Hara in Meditation

When meditating, focus your attention on your Hara, the area two inches below your belly button, to cultivate a fully embodied experience and observe how it influences the quality of your mind.

17. Apply Light Attention

When practicing mindfulness in daily life, use a light touch with your attention on sensory experiences, similar to holding something delicate, to avoid hypervigilance and foster an embodied present moment awareness.

18. Avoid Hyper-Mindfulness

Do not attempt to pay attention to every single sensory detail at all times, as this can lead to hypervigilance, mental exhaustion, and ironically become a form of distraction.

19. Re-evaluate Meditation Goals

Periodically assess your meditation time goals, considering your current life responsibilities and the actual impact on your well-being, to ensure your practice remains manageable and doesn’t create undue stress.

20. Separate Formal & Informal Practice

Differentiate between formal seated meditation time and informal mindfulness practices like mindful eating or walking, as formal practice is a distinct category not typically counted by teachers like Joseph Goldstein as daily life activities.

21. Allow Life’s Flow

Embrace the Zen teaching of allowing the “10,000 things” (all experiences, joys, and sorrows) to flow without rigid control, fostering liveliness, spontaneity, and intimacy in your life.

22. Crossing the Line Builds Intimacy

The “crossing the line” exercise, where people physically move based on shared experiences, can reveal vulnerabilities and differences, fostering intimacy and understanding within a group.

Zombieland, for me, is the way that we are just moving around in our life. You see bodies moving... but they're engrossed in distraction, and they're just hungry.

Koshin Paley Ellison

A lonely monkey is a dead monkey.

Dan Harris

Who are the five people who right now we could call and no matter what, they would be here?

Koshin Paley Ellison

Intimacy... is about completely allowing yourself to be wherever you are and spontaneous.

Koshin Paley Ellison

Meditation is this amazing way to really learn how to be in your experience. I don't know another way that has taught me how to stay and widen out into my experience and soften into it, even what I thought I couldn't bear.

Koshin Paley Ellison

It feels like a superpower training.

Koshin Paley Ellison

I think it's really helpful for people to hear that you can do a significant amount of meditation and still be an idiot.

Dan Harris

If the compassion doesn't include for this person, who I didn't know at the time who it was, then I wasn't, in my view, actually practicing.

Koshin Paley Ellison

Who gets to know all of your sadness?

Koshin Paley Ellison

No arrival.

Koshin Paley Ellison

Finding Your Community ('Find Your Five')

Koshin Paley Ellison (quoting his friend Tarona)
  1. Reflect on who you feel connected to.
  2. Identify five people whom you could call, and no matter what, they would be there for you.
  3. If you don't have five (or even one), recognize this isolation.
  4. Actively work to cultivate these deeper relationships.
  5. Make time for these relationships and be willing to be vulnerable.

Crossing the Line Exercise

Koshin Paley Ellison
  1. The whole group stands on one side of a room, with a literal or imaginary line.
  2. A facilitator calls out a characteristic or experience (e.g., 'cross the line if you identify as a physician,' 'cross the line if you've lost a child').
  3. Individuals who identify with the statement cross the line.
  4. Participants then look back at each other, observing the differences and shared vulnerabilities.

Dyad Exercise (for Intimacy/Vulnerability)

Koshin Paley Ellison
  1. Two people sit across from each other, quite close, with knees almost touching.
  2. Maintain unbroken eye contact for a sustained period.
  3. Allow yourself to be present with any discomfort or vulnerability that arises.
40,000 years ago
Approximate time humans lived in caves, highlighting social connection Context for evolutionary wiring for social connection
90
Number of physicians Koshin was teaching in a training program Group that explored feelings of integrated life
9 months
Duration of the 'Foundations' training course for hospice volunteers Training at the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care
2 inches
Location of the Hara in Zen meditation Below the belly button, considered the body's center
10 years
Duration of Koshin's meditation retreats before realizing a lack of presence Koshin's personal experience of healthy embarrassment
1 in 6 men
Prevalence of men who have experienced sexual violence According to the organization 'One in Six'
18 months
Duration Koshin was targeted by an online troll Period of receiving anti-Semitic, homophobic, and hateful messages
3 buckets
Number of categories of hate messages received from the troll Anti-Semitism, homophobia, and questioning his Zen teacher status
60 minutes
Daily meditation time target for a listener and Dan Harris Aspirations for formal seated practice
120 minutes (2 hours)
Dan Harris's previous daily meditation time target Found unsustainable with his responsibilities