Ethan Nichtern, 'The Dharma of The Princess Bride'

Aug 16, 2017 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Ethan Nichtern, a longtime meditation teacher and senior teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist tradition, discusses his book "The Dharma of The Princess Bride." He explores Buddhist themes, particularly in relationships, using the movie as a lens to navigate life with "compassionately not knowing" and deconstruct societal myths.

At a Glance
11 Insights
59m 2s Duration
15 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Ethan Nichtern's Personal and Buddhist Upbringing

Early Meditation Experiences and Parental Influence

Navigating Parenting and Introducing Meditation to Children

The Buddhist Concept of 'Not Knowing' in Relationships

Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche: Life, Teachings, and Controversies

Ethan's Journey to Becoming a Buddhist Teacher

Understanding Vajrayana Buddhism and its Practices

The Role of a Guru in Vajrayana Tradition

Why 'The Dharma of The Princess Bride'

'The Princess Bride' as an Optimistic Deconstructed Fairy Tale

Connecting Personal Trauma to Cultural Narratives

The 'Most Buddhist Line' and Authentic Presence

Applying 'Have Fun Storming the Castle' to Life

Challenging Rom-Com Myths with Buddhist Principles

Reflections on Marriage and the 'Real Buttercup'

Dharma brat

A term for children whose parents are Western Buddhist practitioners, distinguishing them from those born into Buddhist families in traditional Buddhist cultures.

Prajna / Not Knowing

A Sanskrit term referring to a space of perceptive curiosity or 'pre-knowing,' where one is open to what might be without jumping to conclusions or making assumptions, similar to a beginner's mind.

Beginner's Mind

A concept, popularized by Suzuki Roshi, describing a state of being in the world that is perceptive, sharp, compassionate, and curious, yet willing to not know or be certain.

Vajrayana Buddhism

The third and often final body of Buddhist teachings, particularly in Tibetan traditions, which emphasizes 'taking the fruition as the path,' meaning one directly works with the view that awakened mind is already present, rather than a distant goal.

Rigpa

A Tibetan term meaning primordial or uncreated awareness, used in Vajrayana practice to describe working with the 'knower' of confusion rather than the confusion itself, to gain confidence in one's fundamental okayness.

Guru (Vajrayana context)

In Vajrayana or Tantra, a 'guru' is not just any teacher, but specifically the main teacher one works with on nature of mind meditations, visualizations, and mantra ceremonies, requiring a deep commitment.

Authentic Presence

A core concept in the Shambhala tradition, often synonymous with egolessness, which involves becoming increasingly transparent, tender, and available to the world through meditation practice, fostering genuine self-expression.

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How can parents introduce meditation to their children without forcing it?

Parents can introduce the idea that thoughts and emotions are related to but separate from the outside world, allowing children to playfully observe their thoughts, perhaps through exercises like imagining thoughts as party guests.

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What does 'not knowing' or 'beginner's mind' mean in a Buddhist context?

It refers to a state of perceptive curiosity, a 'pre-knowing' or 'before certainty' where one is open to possibilities without making assumptions, embodying a strong yet unattached awareness.

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What made Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche a controversial figure?

While widely recognized as a brilliant teacher and meditative adept, he was controversial for his heavy drinking, dalliances with followers, and sometimes outrageous behavior, which contributed to his early death.

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What is the fundamental principle of Vajrayana Buddhism?

Vajrayana's core principle is 'taking the fruition as the path,' meaning it views awakened mind as something already present within, and its practices are designed to directly engage with and embody this innate awakened nature.

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Why did Ethan Nichtern choose 'The Princess Bride' for a book on Buddhism and relationships?

He chose it because it's an optimistic, deconstructed fairy tale that challenges fixed narratives and rom-com myths about relationships, providing a playful and poignant cultural context for exploring Buddhist themes.

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What is considered the 'most Buddhist line' in 'The Princess Bride' and why?

Fezzik's line, 'You be careful. People in masks cannot be trusted,' is seen as the most Buddhist because it highlights the importance of becoming transparent and authentic with oneself through mindfulness, rather than creating new defenses.

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How does a Buddhist perspective view striving and ambition, as suggested by 'have fun storming the castle'?

It encourages approaching striving with joy and direct experience, seeing life as a 'cosmic joke' or a game, rather than something overly serious, while still engaging fully.

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How does the 'rom-com myth' of relationships conflict with Buddhist thought?

The rom-com myth promotes the idea of finding an external savior in a perfect partner, which contrasts with the Buddhist premise that nothing external can save one from dealing with their own heart and mind, emphasizing internal work.

1. Relinquish Relationship Expertise

Approach relationships by relinquishing the idea of your own expertise, as a relationship involves at least two people and true mastery is an oxymoron in this context. This fosters an open, non-presumptive engagement.

2. Cultivate Beginner’s Mind

Adopt a “beginner’s mind” or “not knowing” approach (prajna), characterized by perceptive curiosity that avoids assumptions and remains open. This applies to understanding both others and your own internal experience.

3. Practice Self-Transparency

Engage in mindfulness to become increasingly transparent and authentic with yourself, which builds presence, compassion, and confidence. Avoid using practice to create a new “mask” or defense mechanism, as this is counterproductive.

4. Work with the Knower

In meditation, focus on “that which knows confusion” rather than the confusion itself, to gain confidence in your fundamental okayness. This Vajrayana approach (Rigpa) views awakened mind as already present.

5. Dzogchen Hearing Meditation

Practice a Dzogchen meditation by closing your eyes, listening to all sounds, and then shifting your attention to “what’s hearing.” This helps to experience primordial awareness directly, rather than searching for a separate “knower.”

6. Introduce Meditation Playfully to Children

When introducing meditation to children, consider playful exercises like the “thought party,” where thoughts are observed as guests at a party. This helps them realize thoughts come and go, fostering a playful relationship with their mind.

7. View Life as a Game

Approach striving and ambition in life with a sense of joy and direct experience, viewing it as a “game” or “cosmic joke” rather than something intensely serious. This perspective can make challenges more engaging and less overwhelming.

8. Deconstruct Fixed Narratives

Actively deconstruct narratives that feel solid, whether they are cultural stories or personal beliefs, to reveal underlying assumptions. This Buddhist practice helps to understand how our views shape reality.

9. Commit to Core Buddhist Principles

Deepen your practice by committing to compassion, benefiting both oneself and others, and pursuing liberation from confusion through self-honesty. These commitments provide a foundation for advanced spiritual work.

10. Master Relationship Communication

The key to a successful relationship is finding and committing to a mode of communication that works for you and your partner. This requires developing trust and a willingness to engage in the process.

11. No External Savior

Embrace the non-theistic Buddhist premise that no external savior, person, or object will ultimately save you from dealing with your own heart and mind. True transformation comes from within.

a relationship is relinquishing your expertise.

Ethan Nichtern

that which knows confusion cannot be confused.

Chogyam Trungpa (paraphrased by Ethan Nichtern)

life is pain, Highness, anyone who says different is selling something.

Wesley (quoted by Ethan Nichtern)

You be careful. People in masks cannot be trusted.

Fezzik (quoted by Ethan Nichtern)

Hello, my name is Ethan Nickturn. The six-fingered man was my father's best friend. Prepare to read.

Ethan Nichtern

Thought Party Meditation

Dr. Galen Ferguson (introduced by Ethan Nichtern)
  1. Imagine a thought coming in is like a guest at a dinner party or a guest at a party.
  2. Notice how they're dressed or what their behavior is.
  3. Observe them in a more playful space to realize that thoughts are something that come and then reside for a while and then go away.
one week old
Isabella Atlas's age at the time of recording
three weeks early
Isabella Atlas's prematurity a surprise
around fourth or fifth grade
Ethan Nichtern's first meditation class when he was a kid
1987 or 1988
Year of parents' divorce a crazy year in his world
1987
Year Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche died when Ethan was nine years old
47 or 48
Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche's age at death considered young by Ethan
1970 to 1987
Period of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche's intense work he didn't sleep much, working on many projects
1959
Year of Chinese communist invasion of Tibet when Chogyam Trungpa fled
19 or 20 years old
Chogyam Trungpa's age during escape from Tibet when he led 300 people
300 people
Number of people Chogyam Trungpa led out of Tibet over the Himalayas
10 months
Duration of escape journey over Himalayas for Chogyam Trungpa's party
15 or 20 people
Survivors from Chogyam Trungpa's escape party made it to India
September 25th
Princess Bride 30th anniversary the anniversary of the movie
two
Number of deaths in The Princess Bride movie including the six-fingered man
39
Ethan Nichtern's current age as of the recording
a little over a year
Duration of Ethan Nichtern's marriage to Marissa
four wonderful years
Duration of Ethan Nichtern's relationship with Marissa prior to the recording