From "Impolitic With John Heilemann" | Dan Harris: Meditation, Mental Health, Six-Peckered Goats & The 2024 Election

Oct 18, 2024 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dan Harris, former ABC News correspondent and meditation guru, shares 8 tools to navigate election anxiety and discusses his career transition from journalism to mental wellness entrepreneurship. He also explores the value of failure and the importance of relationships.

At a Glance
11 Insights
1h 13m Duration
10 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Dan Harris's Interview on Impolitik

Reframing Election Stress as a Mental Training Opportunity

Mindfulness Meditation: Practice and Benefits

Strategies for Managing News Consumption During Elections

Action and Connection as Anxiety Reducers

Dan Harris's Career Evolution and Panic Attack

His Journey with Meditation and Buddhism

The "10% Happier" App Breakup and New Venture

Lessons Learned from Professional Failure

Reflections on a Journalism Career

Mindfulness Meditation

A secular and simple exercise for the brain, derived from Buddhism, where one sits quietly and focuses full attention on the feeling of their breath. The core practice involves noticing when the mind gets distracted and gently returning attention to the breath, with the understanding that noticing distraction is a sign of success, not failure, as the goal is to observe the mind's activity to gain inner clarity.

Conflict Entrepreneurs

Individuals or entities who exacerbate disagreements and create caricatured versions of opposing viewpoints, often for personal gain or influence. Dan Harris notes that hearing directly from people with differing views, rather than through these 'conflict entrepreneurs,' can remove venom and vitriol from a situation.

Action Absorbs Anxiety

A principle suggesting that engaging in productive activity, even if it's not directly related to the source of stress, can alleviate feelings of helplessness and anxiety. This can involve volunteering, being useful to friends and family, or performing simple helpful acts, which are described as ennobling and empowering.

Never Worry Alone

A key finding from the longest-running Harvard study on human happiness, which identifies the quality of people's relationships as the number one variable for a long, healthy, and happy life. This concept emphasizes that sharing worries and finding community with others is the best way to modulate stress, which is a primary factor in overall health.

Healthy vs. High Conflict

Psychologists differentiate between healthy conflict, which is an unavoidable aspect of human interaction that can be navigated with skills like communication and intellectual humility, and high conflict, which is destructive, characterized by a lack of understanding, compassion, and the caricaturization of opposing positions.

Regret Minimization Framework

A decision-making principle, attributed to Jeff Bezos, where one evaluates choices by considering which path is least likely to lead to significant regret later in life for not having pursued a particular action or opportunity. It encourages taking 'big swings' and embracing potential failure as a valuable learning experience.

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How can mindfulness meditation help with election stress?

Mindfulness meditation provides self-awareness, which is foundational for understanding how the mind constantly loops, plans, and ruminates. This self-awareness is a precondition for effectively working with the mind to deal with the vexations of election season.

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What is the most important factor for a long, healthy, and happy life?

The quality of one's relationships is the number one variable, according to the longest-running Harvard study. Good relationships are crucial because they best modulate stress, which is a primary factor in overall health and longevity.

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How can one manage anxiety and feelings of helplessness during turbulent times?

Engaging in action, even small acts like volunteering or being useful to friends and family, can absorb anxiety. This approach helps to combat feelings of helplessness by providing a sense of purpose and empowerment within one's own sphere of influence.

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Is it normal to struggle with maintaining a meditation practice?

Yes, it is completely normal to fall off the wagon and get back on, as habit formation is described as 'diabolically hard.' Noticing increased inner toxicity after a break can provide intrinsic motivation to resume the practice, making each return a potentially stronger bond to it.

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What are the benefits of diversifying news consumption, especially with opposing viewpoints?

Diversifying news consumption, particularly by seeking out non-caricatured perspectives from sources like newsletters or podcasts, can reduce stress. It helps achieve a deeper understanding of why people think the way they do, humanizes the 'other side,' and removes some of the venom from the situation.

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What is a key lesson from experiencing professional failure?

Failure is underrated because it provides immense learning opportunities and encourages experimentation. Taking 'big swings,' even if they don't succeed, leads to valuable insights that can be applied to everything one does going forward.

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What initially drew Dan Harris to a career in television news?

Dan Harris was initially drawn to television news by the desire to do something 'fun and sexy and exciting,' having mixed up TV news with movies in his mind as a child. He was aspiring to something flashy, which was the opposite of his academic physician parents.

1. Train Your Mind, Reframe Stress

Recognize that peace of mind, happiness, compassion, and gratitude are trainable skills, not fixed settings. Reframe stressful periods, like an election season, as a ‘dojo’ or ‘workout’ to practice these mental skills, which will benefit your entire life.

2. Practice Mindfulness Meditation

Sit quietly, focus on the feeling of your breath, and when distracted, simply notice it and gently return your attention to the breath. This practice helps you gain inner clarity and self-awareness, preventing reflexive reactions to thoughts and emotions.

3. Never Worry Alone

Prioritize and nurture the quality of your relationships, as they are the best modulators of stress and contribute to a long, healthy, and happy life. When facing stressful situations, engage with others by watching debates, reading polls, or simply texting with them to find community and reduce your fears.

4. Action Absorbs Anxiety

Combat feelings of helplessness and reduce anxiety by getting involved and taking action within your sphere. This could involve volunteering for a cause, helping friends and family, or performing small acts of kindness, which are ennobling and empowering.

5. Adopt Regret Minimization

Live your life by a ‘regret minimization framework,’ evaluating decisions to reduce the prospects of having a giant regret later for not having done something. This involves taking ‘big swings’ and bold actions, which is a route to minimizing regret.

6. Strive for Healthy Conflict

Acknowledge that conflict is unavoidable in human interaction and learn communication skills and intellectual humility to keep interactions on the ‘healthy conflict’ side, avoiding destructive ‘high conflict’ prevalent in culture.

7. Limit News Consumption

Use self-awareness to notice when news consumption is leading to extreme negative emotional states (e.g., ‘sending messages in all caps’ or ‘hating everybody’) and turn it off to prevent unhealthy behaviors and reduce stress.

8. Diversify News Sources

Seek out a diversity of news opinions, preferably through more thoughtful formats like newsletters or podcasts rather than social media. This helps achieve a non-caricatured understanding of differing viewpoints, reducing venom and vitriol.

9. Personalize Disagreement Concerns

When discussing disagreements, focus on expressing your personal concerns (e.g., ’this is what worries me’) rather than attacking others’ opinions or trying to change their minds. This strategy fosters more productive conversations.

10. Accept Habit Relapse

Recognize that habit formation is ‘diabolically hard’ and it’s completely normal to fall off healthy routines like meditation or exercise. Use the subsequent increase in ‘inner toxicity’ as an intrinsic motivation to get back on track, rather than feeling self-loathing.

11. Embrace Failure as Learning

View failure as underrated and an opportunity for significant learning and growth. Don’t be afraid to take ‘big swings’ and experiment with new approaches, as trying things, even if they don’t all work, is incredibly valuable.

When you see the distraction, that is proof that you're succeeding because clearing the mind is impossible unless you're enlightened or you've died.

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The whole goal in meditation is just to see how wild the mind is so that you're not owned by it.

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We're living in a pandemic of certainty.

Maria Popova (quoted by Dan Harris)

The number one variable by far is just the quality of people's relationships.

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Failure is underrated.

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They won, we lost, next.

Barry Diller (quoted by John Heilman)

I live my life according to a regret minimization framework.

Jeff Bezos (quoted by John Heilman)

Busier than a six-peckered goat.

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Mindfulness Meditation Practice

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  1. Sit quietly in as quiet a place as you can find (or use headphones with white noise).
  2. Close your eyes.
  3. Bring your full attention to the feeling of your breath coming in and going out (e.g., feeling your belly rising and falling, or air coming in and out of your nose).
  4. As soon as you get distracted (which will happen many times), simply notice that you've become distracted.
  5. Gently start again, bringing your attention back to the feeling of your breath.
  6. Repeat this process, understanding that noticing the distraction is proof of success, as the goal is to observe the mind's activity rather than to clear it.

Strategies for Staying Sane During Election Season

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  1. Practice mindfulness meditation to cultivate self-awareness and observe the mind's constant activity.
  2. Use your mindfulness to limit news consumption, noticing when it leads to negative states (e.g., anger, hatred) and intentionally turning it off.
  3. Seek out a diversity of news opinions from thoughtful sources like newsletters or podcasts, rather than toxic social media, to gain a non-caricatured understanding of differing viewpoints.
  4. Engage in action to absorb anxiety, such as volunteering for a local campaign, a homeless shelter, or an animal shelter, or simply being useful to friends and family.
  5. Never worry alone; actively cultivate and rely on the quality of your relationships by discussing your concerns with friends, family, or a supportive community.
50
Days remaining until Election Day (at time of recording) Mentioned by John Heilman at the start of the episode.
1993
Year Dan Harris graduated from Colby College and started journalism Started in local TV in Bangor, Maine.
2000
Year Dan Harris joined ABC News Worked there for 21 years.
2004
Year Dan Harris experienced an on-air panic attack While hosting Good Morning America.
2014
Year Dan Harris published his book "10% Happier" Ten years after his panic attack.
2016
Year Dan Harris launched his "10% Happier" podcast First episode featured the Dalai Lama.
2021
Year Dan Harris retired from ABC News To pursue his meditation and wellness ventures full-time.
10 years
Duration Dan Harris saw his shrink after the panic attack He was convinced to see the shrink once or twice a week indefinitely.
4-5 years
Time it took Dan Harris to find meditation after starting therapy Found it through his shrink.
5 years
Duration Dan Harris spent writing his memoir "10% Happier" He started writing it around 2009.
6 months
Duration of Dan Harris's first long run in Iraq He became depressed in the months after returning home from this deployment.
80 dollars
Annual cost for a charter membership to Dan Harris's new Substack community For those who can afford it; otherwise, it's available for free upon request.