How To Handle A Narcissist (Including, Maybe...Yourself) | Keith Campbell

Sep 21, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Researcher W. Keith Campbell, author of "The New Science of Narcissism," discusses the spectrum of narcissism, differentiating between grandiose and vulnerable forms, and the rare Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He introduces his 'CPR method' for managing narcissistic tendencies in oneself and others, and explores its societal impacts.

At a Glance
14 Insights
46m 33s Duration
12 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Narcissism Research and Personal Interest

Defining Narcissism: Trait, Grandiose, Vulnerable, and Disorder

Understanding and Addressing Personal Narcissistic Tendencies

Strategies for Dealing with Narcissism in Relationships

Self-Awareness, Other-Focus, and the Unpleasantness of Self-Regard

Societal Shifts in Narcissism and Social Media's Influence

The CPR Method for Narcissism Control

Encouraging CPR in Children and Natural Consequences

Balancing Passion, Ego, and Performance Metrics

The 'New Science' of Narcissism Explained

Hope for the Future of Narcissism Treatment and Understanding

Clinical Delineation of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Narcissism (Personality Trait)

A personality trait combining a lack of empathy, entitlement, and callousness with drive, ambition, charisma, and extroversion. Individuals can be high or low on this spectrum, with most falling in the middle.

Grandiose Narcissism

A form of narcissism characterized by a core sense of self-centeredness and self-importance, but also confidence, charisma, and outgoingness. These individuals often appear likable and can rise to leadership or celebrity status.

Vulnerable Narcissism

A form of narcissism that shares the self-centeredness and entitlement of grandiose narcissism, but is coupled with vulnerability, unstable self-esteem, and insecurity. These individuals often become depressed and anxious due to feeling unappreciated.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)

An extreme and inflexible manifestation of narcissism that causes clinically significant impairment in a person's life. This disorder disrupts relationships, distorts decision-making, or leads to emotional dysregulation.

Flow States (in the zone)

A psychological state where an individual is so deeply engaged and immersed in an activity that they lose self-consciousness and awareness. In this state, performance is often high, and the focus is on the activity itself rather than the ego.

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What is narcissism from a research perspective?

In research, narcissism is primarily understood as a personality trait combining lack of empathy, entitlement, and callousness with drive, ambition, charisma, and extroversion. It also includes vulnerable and grandiose forms, and in extreme cases, Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

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Can individuals vacillate between grandiose and vulnerable narcissism?

Yes, individuals can and often do vacillate between states of grandiosity (inflation) and vulnerability (deflation), especially those associated with neuroticism and anxiety.

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Is understanding narcissism useful for personal growth?

Yes, by understanding the specific components of one's own narcissism (e.g., entitlement, insecurity, risk-taking), individuals can address those specific issues more effectively, such as practicing gratitude or building confidence.

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How should one approach a narcissistic partner about their behavior?

Instead of directly accusing them of narcissism, it's more effective to use a 'manipulative' approach by framing suggestions in a way that appeals to their self-interest or desire for admiration, such as highlighting how certain actions would make them 'even more admired'.

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Does self-awareness exist in narcissistic individuals?

Recent research suggests that people with narcissistic tendencies are often aware of the interpersonal consequences of their behavior, acknowledging that they can be antagonistic or a 'jerk' and wishing they were less so.

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Is there a societal shift towards narcissism, particularly due to social media?

While narcissism scores among college students trended up until the Great Recession, and narcissistic people tend to use social media more effectively, it's not clear that social media *makes* people narcissistic. Instead, social media has become stressful for many, leading to issues like depression and body dysmorphia.

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What is the clinical distinction between high narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)?

The key distinction is 'impairment.' NPD is diagnosed when narcissism is extreme and inflexible, causing clinically significant problems in areas like interpersonal relationships, cognitive decision-making, or emotional regulation.

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Is there hope for treating Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

There is hope as people's personalities are more flexible than previously thought. However, there is currently no significant government funding or extensive research into specific therapies for NPD, so established treatments are lacking.

1. Cultivate Compassion (CPR)

Build compassion, love, affection, and caring in your life, as this interpersonal warmth acts as a buffer against becoming an “unhinged narcissist” by fostering concern for others.

2. Engage in Passion (CPR)

Focus your life on activities you are passionate about, aiming for “flow states” where you lose self-awareness, as this deep engagement reduces ego involvement and buffers narcissistic tendencies.

3. Practice Responsibility (CPR)

Make it a practice to take responsibility for mistakes and failures, as this improves your performance, earns respect from others, and serves as a good buffer for narcissism.

4. Communicate Indirectly with Narcissists

When addressing a partner’s narcissistic tendencies, frame desired changes as beneficial to them and their image (e.g., “great husbands do this”), rather than directly criticizing their narcissism to avoid defensiveness.

5. Shift to Other-Focused Mindset

Recognize that constant self-regard feels unpleasant and hurts; intentionally shift your focus to others, as being other-focused feels much better and reduces self-centeredness.

6. Train for Altruistic Ambition

Train your mind (e.g., through meditation) to pursue ambitious goals with the motivation of benefiting other beings, rather than self-aggrandizement, and practice non-attachment to outcomes to boost resilience.

7. Understand Your Own Narcissism

Break down and understand the specific aspects of your own narcissism (e.g., entitlement, insecurity, risk-taking) to address and “fix” them more effectively.

8. Address Entitlement with Gratitude

If your narcissism involves a sense of entitlement, actively work on cultivating gratitude for your life to potentially become a happier person.

9. Treat Insecurity with Confidence

If your narcissism manifests as insecurity and a lack of confidence, actively work on being more confident to address this vulnerability.

10. Mitigate Overconfident Risk-Taking

If overconfidence leads to excessive financial or other risks, consider hiring someone to double-check your decisions or consciously dial back your risk-taking.

11. Foster CPR in Children

To prevent narcissistic tendencies in children, encourage them to develop skills in compassion, engage in activities they are passionate about, and take responsibility for their actions.

12. Allow Natural Consequences for Kids

Allow children to experience natural consequences, especially through activities in nature or high-risk sports, as this fosters self-awareness and responsibility without interpersonal blame.

13. View Ego as a Tool

Think of ego as a tool in your toolbox: use it when necessary (e.g., for success), but learn to put it away to disengage from constant self-focus and enjoy other aspects of life.

14. Engage in Fair Competition

Participate in balanced, fair competition as a way to learn about yourself, humble your ego when you “get your butt kicked,” and gain confidence in your abilities.

Most people think they're a little better driver than average. So our ego inflates. It's just what it does.

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One runs the world. One is going into therapy.

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If you're paying attention when you're just filled with self-regard, be it grandiose or vulnerable, it doesn't feel good. Thinking about yourself, being self-centered, hurts.

Dan Harris

How do you peel away the ego from the drive? How can be fearless without being mean? How can be fearless without having envy?

Keith Campbell

The more love you have in your life, the less narcissistic you're going to be. The more compassionate you are, the less narcissistic you're going to be.

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Think about ego as a tool in your toolbox, but you can pull it out of your toolbox and use it, but then you can put it away and go home to your wife and kid or whatever.

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CPR Method for Narcissism Control

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  1. C - Cultivate Compassion: Build love, affection, caring, and concern in your life, as this acts as a buffer against becoming an unhinged narcissist.
  2. P - Pursue Passion: Engage in activities out of genuine love for what you're doing, which can lead to flow states where your ego is less involved.
  3. R - Practice Responsibility Taking: Make a conscious effort to take responsibility for failures and mistakes, which helps you improve and earns respect from others.
more than 30 years
Duration of Keith Campbell's narcissism research Keith Campbell's personal research history
1-2%
Prevalence of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) Estimated percentage of people with NPD
about 100 years
Age of the term 'narcissism' Historical duration of the term
at least 3 hours
Dalai Lama's daily meditation time Reported daily meditation practice