How To Stop Worrying About What People Think Of You | Michael Gervais

Mar 25, 2024 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Michael Gervais, a high-performance psychologist, discusses FOPO (Fear of People's Opinions), a hidden epidemic that constricts human potential. He explains its evolutionary roots, its downsides, and offers actionable strategies like purpose-based identity, discernment, meditation, and journaling to overcome it.

At a Glance
15 Insights
1h 7m Duration
19 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to FOPO: Fear of People's Opinions

Evolutionary and Modern Roots of FOPO

Personal and Professional Encounters with FOPO

The Damaging Consequences of FOPO

Worrying vs. Caring About Others' Opinions

The Three Phases of FOPO

FOPO and the Spotlight Effect

Performance-Based vs. Purpose-Based Identity

The Cost of Code Switching and Second Self

Personal Philosophy and Courageous Authenticity

Countering FOPO by Focusing Less on Self

Discernment and Mastering What's Controllable

Harnessing Imagination for Positive Outcomes

Meditation for Increased Self-Awareness

Journaling and Conversations with Wise People

Direct Communication vs. Mind-Reading

Mortality as a Litmus Test for Priorities

The 'Screen Pass' Analogy for Filtering Feedback

Personal Experience with FOPO and Conclusion

FOPO (Fear of People's Opinions)

A hidden epidemic and a major constrictor of human potential, causing individuals to play it safe, resist standing up for themselves, value approval over authenticity, and pursue others' dreams. It stems from an ancient biological drive for social acceptance and survival, amplified in the modern social media age.

Performance-Based Identity

An identity formed around what one does and how one stacks up against others (e.g., popularity, money, achievement). This type of identity is a radical on-ramp to FOPO because it constantly compares oneself to others, leading to an exhaustive and often unhealthy pursuit of external validation.

Purpose-Based Identity

An identity connected to something far bigger than oneself, committed to adding to a large, meaningful endeavor. This identity acts as an off-ramp for FOPO, as it shifts focus from self-perception and external validation to a larger, external commitment, fostering a more flourishing and joyful life.

Spotlight Effect

The phenomenon where individuals overestimate the degree to which others are paying attention to their appearance, behavior, or mistakes. People tend to believe they are under a spotlight when, in reality, others are often more focused on themselves, leading to unnecessary self-consciousness.

Code Switching / Second Self

The act of adjusting one's behavior, language, or presentation to fit into different social or professional environments. While sometimes a necessary survival tactic, it is an 'expensive mechanism to run,' causing a significant psychological tax due to the effort required to switch between different personas.

Discernment

The ability to drill down to the truth of something, using clear, durable, universal reference points to make informed choices. It involves understanding what is within one's control and what is not, and committing to mastering the controllable aspects of life, rather than wasting energy on uncontrollable factors.

Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR)

An engineering term applied psychologically to distinguish between valuable, constructive feedback (signal) and irrelevant or unhelpful opinions (noise). The concept encourages individuals to prioritize input from a trusted 'round table' of wise people over general, often critical, public opinion, to avoid being 'frayed in the noise.'

Screen Pass Analogy

A mental technique, inspired by football, where one creates an imaginary 'screen' to filter incoming feedback. Only constructive elements that help one improve are allowed to pass through, while negative, destructive, or unhelpful comments are mentally blocked, enabling focus on self-improvement.

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What is FOPO and why is it considered a problem?

FOPO stands for Fear of People's Opinions, which is described as a hidden epidemic and the single greatest constrictor of human potential. It leads individuals to play it safe, resist authenticity, and pursue others' dreams, stemming from an ancient biological drive for social acceptance that is amplified in the modern social media age.

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Is FOPO getting worse in modern times?

Yes, FOPO is believed to be getting worse due to the public nature of most people's lives, especially with social media, which acts as an accelerant to the brain's ancient system of scanning for danger and rejection.

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What are the main downsides of being controlled by FOPO?

FOPO corrupts the path to knowing one's true capabilities, leading to shapeshifting and conforming rather than authenticity. It also consumes significant mental energy, contributing to widespread fatigue, agitation, depression, and anxiety in the modern world.

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Is there a difference between 'worrying' about what people think and 'caring' about what people think?

Yes, there is a crucial difference. 'Worrying' about what people think is the culprit and poison, leading to excessive rumination and anxiety. 'Caring' about others' thoughts, however, is essential for social connection and empathy, and is not something to be stopped.

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How does our identity relate to FOPO?

A 'performance-based identity,' which is common in performance-obsessed cultures, makes individuals highly susceptible to FOPO because their self-worth is tied to how they compare to others. A 'purpose-based identity,' focused on contributing to something larger than oneself, acts as a powerful defense against FOPO.

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How can focusing less on oneself help combat FOPO?

Focusing less on oneself, by shifting towards a purpose-based identity that is in service of something bigger, allows for more resources to be poured into meaningful endeavors. This creates a sense of deep trust and freedom, reducing self-obsession and the need for external validation.

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How can meditation help with FOPO?

Meditation, as a practice to increase awareness, helps individuals become more conscious of their excessive worrying about others' opinions, how much they check for external validation, and their responses to perceived rejection. This increased awareness provides an opportunity to course-correct and adjust.

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Instead of guessing what people think, what's a more effective approach?

The most powerful thing to do is to directly ask people what their thoughts are or if they had a reaction to something. Research suggests that people are not very good at mind-reading, even in long-term relationships, and direct communication fosters trust and clarity.

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How can contemplating mortality help with FOPO?

Treating time as precious and recognizing the uncertainty of future opportunities (the 'shot clock' analogy) can serve as a forcing function to be more tuned, present, and committed to one's best self in interactions. This perspective helps prioritize what truly matters over worrying about others' fleeting opinions.

1. Embrace Purpose-Based Identity

Shift your identity from being performance-based (defining yourself by what you do relative to others) to purpose-based. Connect to something bigger than yourself and commit to a meaningful endeavor, which serves as an ‘off-ramp’ from FOPO and fosters a life of mastery.

2. Focus Less on Self for Stronger Self

Develop a strong sense of self, the greatest defense against FOPO, by paradoxically focusing less on yourself and more on others. When you attend less to your own needs being met by others, you free up resources to contribute to something bigger and better.

3. Master Your Controllables

Commit to mastering what is 100% under your control, primarily your inner life (thoughts, emotions, responses). This approach, exemplified by true masters, prevents wasted energy on uncontrollable external factors like others’ opinions.

4. Put Down the FOPO Poison

Actively recognize and reduce excessive worry and rumination about whether you are ‘okay in the eyes of others.’ This fear (FOPO) is described as a ‘poison’ that constricts human potential and leads to playing it safe.

5. Choose Authenticity Over Approval

Prioritize being authentic and expressing your true self, rather than conforming to social norms or faking reactions to be liked or fit in. Avoid abandoning your first principles, virtues, and values for social acceptance.

6. Cultivate Inner Psychological Skills

Invest in developing psychological skills by paying attention to how your thoughts and emotions work, and learn to manage them from the inside out. This internal investment helps you meet life’s demands and combats chronic fatigue.

7. Develop Deep Self-Trust

Cultivate a deep trust in your ability to handle future challenges, believing ‘I will figure that out too.’ This self-trust provides freedom and allows you to be authentic and resilient in diverse environments.

8. Commit to Being Your Best

Make a fundamental commitment to being your very best self. This commitment naturally shifts your focus from a ’look at me’ approach to a ‘how can I help you’ mindset, fostering growth and service to others.

9. Meditate to Increase Awareness

Engage in meditation and mindfulness practices to increase your awareness of your thoughts, feelings, body sensations, and the unfolding world. This heightened awareness helps you notice and adjust your responses to FOPO, such as excessive worrying.

10. Journal for Deeper Self-Awareness

Use journaling as a private practice to reflect on your experiences, thoughts, and feelings. This ‘forcing function’ helps you become more aware of your word choices, commitments, and emotions, fostering greater self-understanding.

11. Seek Wise Counsel (Round Table)

Create a ‘round table’ of 8 trusted individuals whose opinions you deeply care about. These people should have ’time under tension’ with you (knowing your history, dreams, and traumas) and ideally have ‘gone for it’ in their own lives, providing valuable, contextualized feedback.

12. Filter Feedback with a Mental Screen

Adopt a mental ‘screen pass’ mechanism to filter incoming feedback. Allow only constructive information that helps you improve to pass through, while discarding negative, destructive, or unhelpful comments.

13. Visualize a Proficient Future

Consciously use your imagination to visualize a beautiful future where you are highly proficient, rather than allowing it to loop on potential catastrophes. Practice this positive thinking to inoculate against anxiety.

14. Ask Directly, Don’t Mind-Read

Instead of guessing or assuming what others are thinking, directly ask them for their thoughts or reactions. Acknowledge that mind-reading is ineffective and foster psychological safety in relationships to encourage honest communication.

15. Contemplate Mortality’s Litmus Test

Use the awareness of limited time and mortality as a ‘shot clock’ to prioritize what truly matters. This perspective can help you avoid obsessing over others’ opinions and encourage you to be more present and authentic in your interactions.

The poison that we're drinking when it comes to the good life, when it comes to high performance, and certainly when it comes to the path of mastery is that we are drinking a poison every day. And that poison is this excessive worry, this rumination. Are we okay in the eyes of others?

Michael Gervais

Rejection from the tribe was a near-death sentence because it's too wild out there to forge and fend and hunt and gather if it was just the two of us that got kicked out. So acceptance is a really big part of safety.

Michael Gervais

FOPO shows up almost everywhere in our lives and the consequences are great. When we let FOPO take control, we play it safe and small because we're afraid of what will happen on the other side of critique. When challenged, we surrender our viewpoint. We trade in authenticity for approval. We please rather than provoke. We chase the dreams of others rather than our own.

Michael Gervais

The people who don't care are sociopaths, narcissists, and maybe the enlightened. Maybe those are the ones that don't care. I don't know about the enlightened, but I know that sociopaths and narcissists really don't care all that much. We don't need more of them.

Michael Gervais

The single greatest bulwark against FOPO is having a strong sense of self that we, we need to figure out what do we care about? What's our job on the planet? What's our purpose? And that will provide us with some armor against, against a very common trap.

Dan Harris

True masters are committed to mastering what's 100% under their control. And FOPO is not part of that. You know, another person's thoughts are not in your control at all. Full stop.

Michael Gervais

A big part of anxiety is the mind running rapid about all the things that could go wrong later. And that's using your imagination to try to solve a problem, but it's the repeating of that experiment.

Michael Gervais

I'd rather take my own skeletons out of the closet than have somebody else do it.

Dan Harris

Developing a Personal Philosophy for Authenticity

Michael Gervais
  1. Articulate your first principles: Clearly define what truly matters to you in life, your core beliefs, and values.
  2. Formulate a vision: Condense these principles into one or two colorful sentences that articulate who you want to be and what you stand for.
  3. Connect with emotions: Engage with these principles deeply, allowing yourself to feel the truth and resonance of your philosophy (e.g., changes in throat, voice, eye dilation).
  4. Assess alignment: Compare your personal philosophy with your current environment (e.g., work, relationships) to identify any discrepancies.
  5. Make courageous choices: Decide whether to show up as your authentic self in the current environment, or seek a new environment that better aligns with your philosophy, understanding the risks and benefits of each path.

Creating a 'Round Table' of Wise Counsel

Michael Gervais
  1. Identify key individuals: Select a small, manageable group (e.g., eight people) whose opinions you genuinely value and trust.
  2. Apply criteria for inclusion: Ensure these individuals meet specific criteria: they have 'time under tension' (know your scars, traumas, dreams, and ambitions through shared experiences) and have 'really gone for it' in their own lives (understand what it means to push boundaries and commit to growth).
  3. Prioritize their input: Actively seek and prioritize the feedback from these individuals as 'signal' over the 'noise' of general public opinion.
  4. Use for discernment: Leverage their insights to help you make informed decisions and stay grounded in your values, rather than getting caught up in external worries.

Combating FOPO with a 'Screen Pass' Mental Technique

Michael Gervais (describing Nate Hopgood-Chittick's method)
  1. Identify the feedback: Listen to what others are saying, especially criticism or negative comments.
  2. Create an imaginary screen: Mentally visualize a filter between yourself and the incoming feedback.
  3. Discern the signal: Allow only the constructive elements that will help you improve to pass through the screen (e.g., 'half step' in football technique).
  4. Filter the noise: Let everything else that is negative, destructive, or unhelpful fall away on the other side of the screen (e.g., personal attacks, discouraging remarks).
  5. Commit to improvement: Focus on the actionable signal to get better, rather than being swayed by the noise or worrying about how you are perceived.
16 years old
Age of Michael Gervais when he first realized he was trying to look cool for others Driving his first car, a Mazda B2000 pickup truck.
Two grand
Approximate cost of Michael Gervais's first car Saved up for two summers to buy it.
12 months in a row
Duration Michael Gervais's HBR article was the number one downloaded Indicated it 'touched a nerve' regarding FOPO.
25%
Percentage of people who noticed an 'uncool' Barry Manilow shirt in an experiment In a Cornell experiment with 100 freshman students; individuals dramatically overestimated this number.
10 years
Minimum duration of marriage for couples in mind-reading research Used to study how well people could guess each other's thoughts compared to strangers.
35 seconds
Duration of a shot clock in an NBA game Used as an analogy for treating time preciously.
48 minutes
Total duration of an NBA game Context for the shot clock analogy.
Late thirties
Age of Nate Hopgood-Chittick when he died Former NFL player who taught the 'screen pass' analogy.