How to Suffer Well | Brother Pháp Dung

Mar 21, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Brother Pháp Dung, a Dharma teacher in Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Village tradition, discusses the life and teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh. He explores concepts like interbeing, "wrong view," and how birth and death are notions, sharing insights on learning to suffer well to suffer less.

At a Glance
21 Insights
1h 3m Duration
9 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Thich Nhat Hanh and the concept of interbeing

Thich Nhat Hanh's early life and path to engaged Buddhism

Exile from Vietnam and adapting Buddhism for the West

Understanding 'wrong perception' or 'wrong view'

Exploring non-separation and the practice of interbeing

Thich Nhat Hanh's teaching on birth and death as notions

Brother Phap Dung's personal experience with grief and loss

Learning to suffer well and the importance of community

Simplifying life and reorienting towards true happiness

Engaged Buddhism

A practice initiated by Thich Nhat Hanh where meditation and contemplation are combined with action and service to help those suffering in the world. It emphasizes taking Buddhist principles out of the temple and applying them to societal issues like war and poverty, while also ensuring personal renewal to sustain the work.

Wrong Perception / Wrong View

A distorted or incomplete understanding of reality, often leading to a sense of separation from others, blame, hate, and destructive actions. This can apply to views about other people, cultures, the environment, or even what constitutes happiness, causing suffering when these views are rigid and unchallenged.

Interbeing (Non-separation)

The understanding that all things are interconnected and interdependent, meaning there is no absolute separation between individuals, other beings, or the environment. It implies that when one suffers, all suffer, and when one is happy, all are happy, encouraging empathy and compassion by seeing oneself in others.

Continuation (Birth and Death)

Thich Nhat Hanh's teaching that birth and death are not absolute beginnings or endings, but rather notions or moments of manifestation and de-manifestation. Everything is in a continuous cycle of change, where one form transforms into another, meaning nothing truly dies or becomes nothing, but rather continues in different forms.

Mindfulness (Smirti)

In Sanskrit, 'smirti' means remembering, highlighting that mindfulness is not just about being present, but also about remembering insights, gratitude, and the interconnectedness of things. When we are forgetful, we get caught in negative thoughts and concepts, but remembering helps us stay aware of other positive aspects of reality.

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What is 'wrong perception' or 'wrong view' according to Thich Nhat Hanh's teachings?

Wrong perception or wrong view is an incomplete or incorrect understanding that creates a sense of separation, leading to blame, hate, and destructive actions. It can apply to how we see other people, cultures, the environment, or even our ideas about happiness.

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What is 'interbeing' or 'non-separation' in the context of Buddhist practice?

Interbeing is the understanding that everything is interconnected and interdependent, meaning there is no absolute separation between individuals, other beings, or the environment. It's a practice of seeing how our well-being is tied to the well-being of others and vice-versa.

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What did Thich Nhat Hanh mean by saying 'birth and death are only notions'?

Thich Nhat Hanh taught that birth and death are not absolute beginnings or endings, but rather concepts describing moments of manifestation and de-manifestation within a continuous cycle of change. He emphasized that nothing truly dies or becomes nothing, but rather transforms and continues in different forms.

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How can one practice non-separation in daily life, especially in a culture that emphasizes individualism?

Practicing non-separation requires finding a supportive community of like-minded people and consciously cultivating compassion and understanding, even in stressful situations like driving, by not harboring hate and acknowledging others' struggles.

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How can learning to suffer well help reduce overall suffering?

By acknowledging and honoring all emotions and 'seasons' within us, rather than trying to avoid or suppress sadness, we can reconcile with loss and allow life force to revive, leading to less attachment and grasping, and ultimately, less suffering.

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What practical steps can individuals take to 'suffer better' in their everyday lives?

Individuals can find community and supportive friends, simplify their lives by reorienting on what truly matters, make space in their day for nourishing spiritual and human aspects, and prepare for difficult times by cultivating inner resources.

1. Embrace Interbeing as Medicine

Cultivate the concept of “interbeing” by recognizing that others’ suffering and happiness are intrinsically linked to your own, using this as a profound “medicine for individualism.”

2. Challenge Wrong Perception & Doubt

Regularly recheck your perceptions and views by asking the mantra “Are you sure? Am I sure?” Cultivate a little doubt to stay open to investigation and avoid being locked into fixed ideas, as wrong perception is the origin of suffering.

3. Practice Self-Care for Connection

Prioritize self-care and become “whole” to create inner space, which allows for greater openness, listening, and the natural unfolding of interconnection with others.

4. Learn to Suffer Well

Acknowledge and practice with your suffering, understanding that learning “how to suffer well” will ultimately lead to less suffering and allow for authentic emotional expression.

5. Cultivate Inner Contentment

Work on finding true inner contentment to prevent the internal “war” that leads to blaming others, scapegoating, and creating enemies.

6. Simplify Life & Reorient Priorities

Actively simplify your life by reorienting your focus on what truly matters, rather than being constantly busy or accumulating things out of dissatisfaction, which creates more time and mental space.

7. Build Supportive Community (Sangha)

Actively seek out and build a supportive community and friendships (sangha), as this is crucial for navigating life’s challenges, balancing individualism, and providing a space for connection and growth.

8. Integrate Contemplation & Action

Integrate contemplative practices (meditation) with active service to help others, especially in times of suffering, and remember to revive oneself through contemplation to maintain sustainability and resilience.

9. Reframe Birth and Death

Reframe your understanding of birth and death as continuous cycles of manifestation and transformation, rather than fixed, absolute points, recognizing that existence continues beyond physical form through creations and memories.

10. Use Concepts as Tools

Utilize spiritual concepts (like interbeing) not as mere intellectual descriptions, but as tools or “keys” to hold and look deeply into your world, yourself, and the reality of how things work.

11. Practice Mindfulness as Remembering

Understand and practice mindfulness as “remembering” – remembering your true self, your continuation, and the gratitude for being alive – rather than being forgetful and caught in thoughts or concepts.

12. Observe Cycles for Healing

Observe cycles, seasons, and continuation in nature (trees, mountains) and in human relationships (ancestors, siblings) as a healing practice to gain a bigger picture perspective.

13. Counterbalance Sadness with Caring

During times of sadness or grief, actively counterbalance the tendency to retreat or focus solely on sadness by finding ways to continue caring for others, nature, or meaningful projects.

14. Practice Compassion While Driving

Practice compassion and non-separation even in stressful situations like driving by acknowledging others’ hurriedness or anger, allowing them space, and consciously choosing not to harbor hate or frustration.

15. Recognize Multiple Truths in Conflict

When observing conflicts, cultivate the understanding that “both sides can be right,” avoiding the need to declare one party definitively correct, especially when not self-interested in the situation.

16. Humanize Spiritual Practices

Approach spiritual practices and teachings in a humanized way, avoiding idolization or turning them into rigid, external “things” or dogmas.

17. Seek ‘Enough’ for Happiness

Shift your mindset from constantly seeking “more” to recognizing “enough,” which will create more time and mental space, leading to a clearer understanding of real happiness.

18. Prepare for Difficult Times

Prepare for difficult emotional “winters” by gathering “wood” (spiritual practices, self-care, community) during easier times, so you are resilient when challenges arise.

19. Practice Generosity and Service

Engage in practices of generosity (Dana), offering service, and helping the less fortunate as a counterbalance to materialism and individualism.

20. Advocate for Urban Community Centers

Support or envision the creation of community centers in urban environments that foster connection, self-reflection, and spiritual growth, similar to exercise or yoga gyms.

21. Enjoy Life Beyond Work

Recognize that life is more than just working; make time to enjoy your life and nourish your human and spiritual aspects before it’s too late.

When the bombs are dropping outside, you cannot just sit in the temple and chant. You have to get up and go out and help.

Brother Phap Dung

The root of the war is not in Vietnam. It's in the American people, the government and politics.

Brother Phap Dung

Always ask ourselves a mantra. Are you sure? Am I sure? So don't be sure.

Brother Phap Dung

If you look at your own mind long enough, you will eventually see Hitler.

Dan Harris

We learn how to suffer, we will suffer less.

Brother Phap Dung

When you're mindful, that means you remember.

Brother Phap Dung

Dealing with Grief and Loss

Brother Phap Dung
  1. Find ways to continue to care, such as planting a tree for a loved one's ashes and nurturing it.
  2. Take care of others, including family, monastics, and friends, to allow the energy of love and service to flow forward.
  3. Allow time for solitude to process emotions, honoring feelings of sadness and acknowledging all 'seasons' within oneself.
  4. Practice mindfulness (remembering) to recall insights, gratitude, and the aspirations of those who have passed, continuing their work and spirit.
over 40 and 50 years
Thich Nhat Hanh's exile from Vietnam He was exiled for calling for peace during the Vietnam War.
800, 900, sometimes over 1,000 people
Attendance at Thich Nhat Hanh's retreats Refers to large retreats he gave in places like Toronto.
every seven years
Liver cell regeneration cycle Used as an example of continuous change and 'living and dying in each moment'.
80, 90 years
Typical human lifespan for manifestation Refers to the duration of a human's physical manifestation.