How To Work With Insomnia, Pain, and Your Mom's Voice in Your Head | Jeff Warren

Feb 13, 2026 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dan Harris and meditation teacher Jeff Warren discuss navigating life's hardest challenges, including insomnia, chronic pain, existential fears for loved ones, and caring for aging parents. They offer practical strategies for cultivating equanimity, managing inner narratives, and overcoming meditation plateaus.

At a Glance
20 Insights
28m Duration
12 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Q&A Session and Key Topics

Navigating Existential Fears for Loved Ones

Understanding Equanimity vs. Acceptance

Strategies for Insomnia and Chronic Pain

The Link Between Meditation Focus and Peak Performance

Addressing Feeling Stuck in Meditation Practice

Using Meditation to Ask Questions and Gain Insights

Methods to Reduce the Constant Mental Narrative

Investigating the Nature of Thought and Non-Self

Coping with the Challenges of Caring for Aging Parents

The Importance of Self-Compassion and Self-Care in Difficult Situations

Benefits of Practicing Meditation Together

Equanimity

Equanimity is a preferred term over 'acceptance,' meaning to truly recognize 'this is the situation' without fighting against what's uncomfortable or trying to grab onto security. It involves being present with a clear seeing of suffering, which allows for better responses.

Doomsday Spirals

These are mind states where one projects negative future outcomes based on current observations, feeling authoritative and overwhelming. The practice is to back out of these stories and return to what is actually present in the moment.

Feeling Tone (in Buddhism)

In Buddhist philosophy, every sensation, whether mental or physical, has an associated feeling tone: pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. Noticing this tone helps to observe our natural reactions (wanting more, aversion, or zoning out) and create space from them.

Concentration (in Meditation)

Concentration is the capacity to choose what to pay attention to and commit to it, gathering scattered attention into one direction. This practice enhances focus in all areas of life, leading to more fulfilling experiences like 'flow' or 'being in the zone.'

Non-Self (Illusion of Self)

This concept involves investigating the nature of thought by asking 'what is a thought?' or 'who is receiving these thoughts?' It reveals that thoughts are not happening to a fixed 'you,' but rather arise in space, leading to a liberating realization that there's nothing to take personally.

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How can one deal with existential fears for loved ones, especially children?

It's an endless life practice to accept that suffering is part of their experience. By being present with the clear seeing of the suffering, one can respond better and avoid 'doomsday spirals' of projection.

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What is a better term than 'acceptance' in meditation practice?

'Equanimity' is preferred, meaning to truly recognize 'this is the situation' without fighting against discomfort or trying to secure oneself, allowing for a present and spacious response.

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How can one manage insomnia and chronic pain through meditation?

Notice the stories and stress hormones that cascade from lack of sleep or pain, and back down into the actual experience. For insomnia, reframe the objective as getting 'rest' rather than 'unconscious sleep,' allowing for restorative benefits even if awake. For pain, experiment with going into the center of the pain, using distraction, or practicing self-compassion.

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How does focus in meditation relate to focus in peak performance (e.g., sports)?

They are the same skill. Meditation trains the capacity to choose what to pay attention to and commit to it, which directly translates to improved concentration in other areas of life, leading to flow states and fulfillment.

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What should one do when feeling stuck or plateaued in meditation practice?

Normalize the plateau, as it's a common part of the practice. Stay with the practice despite it, as it will change. Consider consulting a teacher, trying different techniques or objects of attention, or reading Dharma books for new insights.

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How can one get insights or overcome creative blocks using meditation?

Explicitly ask a question at the beginning of meditation, planting it like a seed in the subconscious, then sit quietly and be open to insights that may spontaneously arise.

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How can one turn down the volume on the constant mental narrative or inner critic?

Three strategies include replacing negative inner talk with friendly messaging, choosing to pay attention to something else (like the breath), or getting curious about the thoughts themselves by deconstructing their sensory components.

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How can one better deal with the difficult situation of caring for aging parents, one with dementia and anxiety, and the other lacking empathy?

Start with self-compassion, acknowledging it's a very hard situation. Prioritize self-care to settle the intensity and come back to the situation with more presence and clarity. Drop agendas for conversations and instead aim for a compassionate presence, allowing opportunities for skillful mediation to emerge.

1. Practice Intentional Concentration

Choose what you want to pay attention to and commit your focus, as this practice strengthens concentration capacity in all areas of life. This leads to greater fulfillment and is a “recipe for happiness.”

2. Back Out of Doomsday Spirals

When worrying about loved ones, notice projections and “doomsday spirals” as passing mind states, and return to “what’s actually here” to respond more cleanly. This often creates better patterns of relationship and helps others feel better.

3. Practice Equanimity for Loved Ones

Recognize “this is what’s happening” with equanimity regarding loved ones’ suffering, without avoiding or obsessing. This allows for a more present and effective response, improving relationship patterns.

4. Prioritize Self-Compassion and Care

Begin with self-compassion in difficult situations and actively engage in self-care activities to settle the intensity. This builds capacity, allowing you to return to the situation with more presence and clarity.

5. Reframe Sleep Objective to Rest

Shift your nighttime objective from “eight hours of solid unconscious sleep” to “eight hours of rest,” allowing for restorative benefits even if you meditate in the night. This reduces pressure and stress around sleep.

6. Reassure Yourself About Sleep

Calm your nervous system by reassuring yourself that whatever sleep you get is fine and not a referendum on your fitness or performance the next day. This self-talk, like you’d offer a child, is massively helpful for managing insomnia-related anxiety.

7. Deconstruct Intrusive Thoughts

Get curious about the nature of your thoughts, asking where they are spatially, their tone, and whose voice they are. This deconstruction often cools out the thinking and can be liberating.

8. Investigate “What is a Thought?”

Ask “What is a thought?” and investigate who is doing or receiving the thinking to look for the “self” behind it. This inquiry can lead to insights about non-self and reduce the authoritative feeling of thoughts.

9. Shift Attention Away from Thoughts

Choose to pay attention to something else, like the breath or ambient sounds, to reduce the robustness of intrusive thoughts. By redirecting focus, the inner narrative cools out in the background.

10. Replace Negative Inner Talk

Substitute agonizing inner talk with more friendly messaging, such as loving-kindness phrases like “May I be well, may you be well.” This is a legitimate way to quiet the intrusive narrative.

11. Observe Pain Without Story

Notice the stories and stress hormones that amplify pain, then back down into the actual physical experience of the pain itself. This helps prevent cascading stress and increases space from the suffering.

12. Tune into Unpleasant Feeling Tone

When experiencing pain, focus specifically on the “unpleasant feeling tone” of the sensation rather than proliferating stories about it. This creates space and disembeds from the inevitability of suffering.

13. Experiment with Pain Focus

Try either focusing directly on the center of the pain to notice radiation, or using a good distraction like doodling if direct focus is too intense. Different approaches work for different people to manage discomfort.

14. Practice Self-Compassion for Pain

Engage in self-compassion practices to alleviate suffering related to chronic pain. This can provide relief and support during difficult experiences.

15. Seek Activities Where You Lose Time

Identify and engage more in activities where you become so absorbed that you lose track of time. This concentrated attention is a “medicine for the nervous system” and a source of inherent fulfillment.

16. Ask Questions During Meditation

At the beginning of your meditation, explicitly drop in a question about a block or what you need to know, then let it go and sit quietly. Insights can spontaneously emerge from your subconscious.

17. Normalize and Persist Through Plateaus

Recognize that plateaus in meditation are normal and part of the process, and continue to show up for practice despite feeling stuck. Persistence will lead to change and eventual unblocking.

18. Consult a Teacher or Shift Practice

If experiencing a plateau, seek advice from a meditation teacher or experiment with shifting the object or method of your meditation. Trying different techniques can unblock progress and help find a new “stream.”

19. Drop the Agenda, Be Present

When dealing with difficult family members, drop any specific agenda for conversations and instead cultivate a compassionate presence. This approach often creates opportunities to mediate more skillfully.

20. Practice Loving-Kindness for All

In challenging family situations, practice loving-kindness (Metta) or compassion (Karuna) for everyone involved, including yourself. This practice can help stop trying to control the situation, reduce self-pity, and cultivate patience.

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Jeff Warren

What you pay attention to becomes your life.

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The plateau is normal.

Jeff Warren

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Managing Insomnia (Jeff Warren)

Jeff Warren
  1. Reframe your objective at night from getting eight hours of solid unconscious sleep to getting eight hours of rest.
  2. If you wake up in the night, let yourself settle and 'meditate in the night' to still get restorative benefits without being unconscious.

Managing Insomnia (Dan Harris)

Dan Harris
  1. Tell yourself that whatever sleep you get is fine.
  2. Reassure yourself that you have been fine before with little to no sleep.
  3. Calm your nervous system by stating that your amount of sleep tonight is not a referendum on your overall fitness, health, or how you will perform tomorrow.

Investigating Unpleasant Feeling Tone

Dan Harris
  1. Recognize that every sensation (mental or physical) has a feeling tone: pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral.
  2. When an unpleasant sensation arises, zero in on and be mindful of just the unpleasant feeling tone.
  3. Avoid proliferating stories about the pain or its potential worsening.

Asking Your Meditation a Question

Jeff Warren
  1. At the beginning of your meditation, drop in a specific question (e.g., about a creative block or an impasse in practice).
  2. Let the question go, planting it like a seed in your subconscious.
  3. Sit quietly and be open to insights or answers that may spontaneously arise through you.

Turning Down the Volume on the Constant Mental Narrative

Jeff Warren
  1. Strategy 1 (Replace): Substitute the agonizing inner talk with more friendly messaging, such as phrases from a loving-kindness practice.
  2. Strategy 2 (Redirect): Choose to pay attention to something else, like the breath or a sound, which reduces the robustness of the thoughts by occupying consciousness.
  3. Strategy 3 (Deconstruct): Go directly into the thinking and get curious about its components: where it's heard spatially, its tone, whose voice it is, and its sensory objects (visual, auditory, semantic).
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