Improving Your Relationships - Buddhist Style | Martine Batchelor

Aug 18, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode features Martine Batchelor, a former Buddhist nun, lecturer, and author, who explains Vedana (feeling tone), an ancient Buddhist concept. She discusses how understanding pleasant, unpleasant, and neutral feeling tones can improve interactions, reduce harmful reactions, and deepen self-awareness.

At a Glance
17 Insights
1h 8m Duration
14 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Vedana and Martine Batchelor

Pandemic Reflections and Opportunity for Relationship Renewal

Understanding Vedana: Feeling Tone and Perception

The Body-Mind Complex and Vedana's Nature

Mindlessness of Vedana and its Consequences in Relationships

Practicing Mindfulness of Feeling Tone in Meditation

Deeper Dive into Contact, Tonality, and Biased Perception

Equanimity and Societal/Social Media Reinforcement of Tonality

Practical Application of Vedana Mindfulness in Daily Life

Revisiting Neutral Feeling Tone and Insightful Equanimity

Vedana's Connection to Buddhist Ethics and Precepts

The Nature of Love and its Relationship to Feeling Tones

"The Light is Already On": Awakening and Dissolving Habits

The Depth and Width Dimensions of Spiritual Practice

Vedana (Feeling Tone)

Vedana refers to the immediate tonality (pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral) that arises upon contact through any of the senses, including thoughts. It is conditioned by perception and affects the entire body-mind complex, influencing our reactions and behaviors.

Five Omnipresent Mental Factors

This Buddhist framework describes the immediate mental factors that occur upon contact: contact, tonality (vedana), perception, intention, and attention. The episode primarily focuses on how contact, tonality, and perception interact and influence each other, particularly in creating bias.

Asymmetry of Tonality

This concept highlights the mind's tendency to register unpleasantness with a much lower threshold (e.g., -0.5 or -1 on a scale) compared to the higher degree of pleasantness required (e.g., +5) for something to be noticed as 'nice.' This reflects an evolutionary bias towards avoiding harm.

Ordinary vs. Insightful Tonality

Ordinary tonality leads to conditioned reactions like craving pleasantness, aversion to unpleasantness, or confusion with neutrality. Insightful tonality, cultivated through mindful awareness, allows for a wise and grounded engagement with these feelings, leading to contented calm, clarity, and true equanimity.

Equanimity

While often perceived as serenity or indifference, true equanimity, in the context of Vedana, means treating people equally regardless of the feeling tone they evoke. It involves recognizing that tonality is conditioned and not inherent, thereby preventing biased and unskillful reactions.

Depth Dimension of Practice

This refers to intensive, focused spiritual practice undertaken in controlled or limited conditions, such as during a meditation retreat or formal meditation sessions. It allows for profound insights and deep experiences of the mind and body.

Width Dimension of Practice

This involves the application and integration of spiritual insights and practices into daily life, including relationships, work, and everyday interactions. It's about cultivating mindfulness and wisdom across the broad spectrum of one's experiences.

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What is Vedana or 'feeling tone' in Buddhism?

Vedana refers to the immediate tonality (pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral) that arises upon contact through any of the senses, including thoughts. It's a fundamental aspect of experience that influences our reactions.

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Is the pleasantness or unpleasantness of something inherent in the object itself?

No, the pleasantness or unpleasantness is not in the object (like a mango or rhubarb) but is conditioned by the person's perception, culture, and past experiences. Assuming it's in the object or person can lead to harmful biases.

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How can mindfulness of feeling tone help improve relationships?

By becoming aware of the pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral feeling tones that arise in response to others, one can observe these tones without immediately reacting, preventing automatic responses like snapping back or forming negative judgments based on fleeting experiences.

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How does our mind typically react to pleasant, unpleasant, and neutral feeling tones?

The underlying tendencies are to want more of what is pleasant, to push away or attack what is unpleasant, and to feel confused or bored by what is neutral.

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How can we practice mindfulness of feeling tone in daily life?

The practice involves noticing shifts in tonality (often felt in the body like the heart or belly), observing how long a feeling tone lasts, and identifying the contact (what triggered it) and the perception (how we're making sense of it) without immediately reacting.

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Why is it important to pay attention to neutral feeling tones?

Neutral tonality can serve as a restful baseline for the organism. Recognizing it as a possible and often present state can make it a more positive experience, preventing reactions of boredom or dissatisfaction, and offering a more attainable goal than constant pleasantness, especially when experiencing unpleasant states like depression.

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How does social media interact with feeling tones?

Social media platforms often reinforce tonality by encouraging 'like' or 'dislike' reactions, which can amplify pleasant feelings within a group and unpleasant feelings towards an 'out-group,' potentially leading to polarization and the spread of misinformation.

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How does understanding Vedana relate to Buddhist ethics?

Many ethical precepts, like not causing harm, not stealing, or refraining from substance abuse, are often violated due to unskillful reactions to pleasant or unpleasant feeling tones. Mindfulness of Vedana allows for a more creative and wise engagement with these tones, fostering harmlessness and contentment.

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What does 'the light is already on' mean in the context of awakening?

It suggests that our creative potential for wisdom, compassion, and understanding is inherently present and always available. Meditation and practice help dissolve the automatic, habitual reactions and survival mechanisms that limit this potential, allowing our natural creative functioning to emerge.

1. Cultivate Vedana Awareness

Practice becoming aware of the tonality (pleasant, unpleasant, neutral) of every contact through the senses, body, and mind, catching it early to prevent automatic, potentially harmful reactions.

2. Locate Feeling Tone Internally

Recognize that pleasantness, unpleasantness, or neutrality is not inherent in an external object or person, but is a conditioned experience arising within oneself based on perception.

3. Transform Unpleasant Feeling Tones

Instead of reacting by pushing away or attacking unpleasant feeling tones, observe them without immediate action and explore ways to engage creatively and insightfully.

4. Train Vedana in Meditation

Use meditation to intimately familiarize yourself with feeling tones by observing the tonality of breath, physical sensations, and sounds, noting their pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral quality.

5. Embrace Neutral as Restful Baseline

View neutral feeling tone not as boring, but as a restful baseline for the organism, a stable and achievable state that offers a path back from unpleasantness.

6. Sense Tonality in the Body

In daily life, notice shifts in tonality primarily in the body (e.g., heart, belly area) before the mind creates a narrative, and then identify the specific contact that triggered the shift.

7. Practice Relational Equanimity

Challenge the tendency to treat people unequally based on the feeling tones they evoke or society’s assigned tonality, striving to treat all individuals with equal regard.

8. Practice Meditative Listening

Listen to others totally and 100%, without planning your response, to allow for creative, clear, compassionate, and relevant insights to emerge in your interaction.

9. Renew Relationships in Adversity

Use difficult periods, like a pandemic, as an opportunity to consciously see others differently and renew relationships, moving beyond automatic, habitual perceptions.

10. Adopt “Why Stress?” Motto

During challenging times, consciously adopt the motto “Why stress? Take your time” to reduce self-harm and harm to others, promoting stability and clarity.

11. Cultivate Appreciation (Moodita)

Practice rejoicing in all the people who help you survive and in what is still working, fostering gratitude for those who endanger themselves for collective well-being.

12. Broaden Pleasant Tonality Awareness

Increase your awareness of the full range of pleasant feeling tones, including subtle experiences, rather than only seeking intense “plus five” pleasantness.

Understand that unethical actions often stem from either pushing away unpleasant tonality or grasping at pleasant tonality, encouraging mindful engagement with these drives.

14. Cultivate Enduring Love

Understand love as more than just an intense, pleasant feeling tone; cultivate it as appreciating, sharing, and growing together, accepting that the feeling tone will naturally fluctuate.

15. Integrate Depth and Width in Practice

Combine deep, focused meditation (depth dimension) with applying mindfulness and ethical principles in daily life and relationships (width dimension) to dissolve limiting habits.

16. Recognize Social Media Tonality

Be aware that social media platforms reinforce pleasant and unpleasant tonality, which can lead to biased perceptions, group-think, and the targeting of negative feelings towards specific groups.

17. Practice Self-Love for Tonality

Foster self-love to easily generate a pleasant feeling tone within yourself, which serves as a stable foundation for extending love and positive feelings to others.

Feeling tone, vedana, V-E-D-A-N-A, in the ancient Pali language, actually refer to the tonality upon contact through the senses.

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The pleasantness is not in the mango, but it's in the person, in a way, liking it.

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The problem is not the thing kind of is pleasant and pleasant according to conditions. But we then stick things in the thing itself or in the person, which is, I think, much more dangerous than in the thing.

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The point is not that there is no tonality. But the point is, do we creatively engage with the tonality or are we overwhelmed by the tonality?

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The underlying tendency to unpleasant is to push away or to attack.

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If you don't love yourself, you're stuck with an unpleasant feeling tone. But if you love yourself, then it's very easy to have a pleasant feeling tone because you are with yourself.

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Enlightenment, question mark, the light is already on.

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Mindfulness of Feeling Tone in Meditation

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  1. Pay attention to the breath, noticing slight changes in air temperature (cooler/warmer) in the nostril, which is often in the neutral range.
  2. Observe sensations of contact, such as clothes on the body, hands on legs, or buttocks on the cushion, noting these are generally neutral.
  3. Focus on deeper sensations in areas like the knee or shoulders, where tonality might be more defined (e.g., relaxed and pleasant, or tight and unpleasant).
  4. Listen to sounds, noting immediate pleasantness (e.g., a bird's tweet) or unpleasantness (e.g., a loud mechanical sound).
  5. Observe the duration of tonality, seeing if the feeling tone continues after a sound stops, or how long an unpleasant sound's tonality lasts.
  6. Play with perception by, for example, hearing a mechanical noise (unpleasant) and then realizing its purpose (e.g., pipe repair), which might shift the tonality to pleasant.
  7. Engage with neutral states by observing your relationship to 'nothing going on,' challenging perceptions of boredom, and appreciating it as a restful baseline.
10 years
Martine Batchelor's time as a Buddhist nun in Korea Duration of her nunship.
108
Number of Vedanas (feeling tones) mentioned by the Buddha in one text Refers to the variety of mental or physical feeling tones.
Two red lights
Duration an unpleasant tonality lasted for Martine Batchelor in a car After choosing not to react to her husband's comment.
Plus five
Approximate pleasantness level to be noticed On a scale, it takes this much pleasantness to register as 'nice'.
Minus one, minus 0.5
Approximate unpleasantness level to be noticed On a scale, this much unpleasantness is enough to register as undesirable.
1100
Start of 'untouchable' discrimination in France The year this practice began in France.
1780
End of 'untouchable' discrimination in France The year this practice ended with the revolution.
800 years
Duration of 'untouchable' discrimination in France The period from 1100 to 1780.
15
Age a young woman fell in love with alcohol The age when she first experienced an 'amazing tonality' from liquor.
30
Age the young woman had to stop drinking Due to terrible blackouts.
73 and a half
Martine Batchelor's age As stated by her.