Jesse Israel

Aug 17, 2016 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Jesse Israel, co-creator of MediClub, discusses his journey from a record label founder to building a meditation community for young adults. He shares how meditation helped him manage stress and follow his intuition.

At a Glance
29 Insights
58m 22s Duration
15 Topics
3 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Meditation's Growing Popularity Among Young People

Jesse Israel's Journey: From Record Label to Meditation

Early Meditation Practice: Shambhala Technique and Habit Formation

Transition to Vedic Meditation and Its Transformative Impact

Leaving the Record Label to Pursue Purpose

Community Organizing: Cheeseburger Club and Bike Club

Founding MediClub: The Call to Action and First Gathering

MediClub's Structure: Monthly Gatherings, Circles, and Big Quiet

The Business Model and Financial Sustainability of MediClub

Navigating Entrepreneurial Challenges and Lifestyle Changes

Vision for Global Expansion and Maintaining Intimacy

Generational Differences: Earnestness vs. Irony in Communication

MediClub's Practice Agnosticism and Life Relevance

Personal Meditation Goals and the Concept of Enlightenment

The Impact of Vulnerability in Public Storytelling

The Habit Loop

A framework for building habits, consisting of three parts: a cue, a routine, and a reward. Identifying these components allows individuals to consciously build or change habits, as demonstrated by Jesse in his meditation practice.

Comparing Mind

A Buddhist concept referring to the tendency to compare oneself to others. This mental habit can be very painful and is often a waste of energy, though a small amount can be motivating if managed with mindfulness.

Millennial Authenticity

A generational trait characterized by a drive for purpose and mission, a willingness to speak vulnerably, and a high value placed on authenticity and transparency. This approach to communication allows for heartfelt expression but can sometimes alienate those with different mindsets.

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Why did Jesse Israel start meditating?

Jesse started meditating in his early 20s to manage the overwhelming stress of running a record label full-time while also being a student, seeking tools to cope with the high-pressure environment.

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What kind of meditation did Jesse Israel first learn?

Jesse first learned an eyes-open meditation technique at the Shambhala Institute, which involved sitting upright without back support, gazing down with a soft gaze, and bringing attention to the breath.

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How does Vedic meditation differ in impact from the Shambhala technique for Jesse?

While Shambhala instantly provided relaxation and reduced reactivity, Vedic meditation, practiced over a longer period, has slowly stripped stress out of his body, leading to a clearer channel to his intuition and easier decision-making based on what feels right.

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Why did Jesse Israel leave his successful record label?

Jesse left his record label because his intuition, strengthened by meditation, told him it was time to move on, despite all logical reasons pointing to staying. He felt he was meant to do something else, even without a clear plan.

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How does Jesse Israel sustain himself financially while building MediClub?

Jesse sustains himself through a side video production business he started in college, a part-time salary from MediClub/Big Quiet event revenue, and by adjusting his lifestyle, including moving to an apartment with roommates to reduce expenses.

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Is it ethical to turn meditation into a for-profit business?

Jesse believes it is, explaining that MediClub events are more than just meditation; they involve taking over spaces, booking talent, and creating cultural experiences. He found that not charging prevented scaling and doing the work in the way they envisioned, while also offering tiered pricing to accommodate different means.

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What is Jesse Israel's ultimate vision for MediClub and Big Quiet?

Jesse's grand vision is for MediClub, Circles, and Big Quiets to be happening in every major city globally, scaling to large venues like Madison Square Garden while simultaneously maintaining intimacy through small, 10-person peer-to-peer support circles.

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Does Jesse Israel aim for 'enlightenment' in his meditation practice?

No, Jesse does not have a goal of 'enlightenment' for his practice, viewing the term as confused and misrepresented. He was taught that whatever happens during practice, whether thinking or feeling 'deep,' is perfect as long as he is sitting down and practicing.

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How has Dan Harris's vulnerability impacted the reception of his work?

Dan believes his vulnerability, discussing panic attacks, depression, anxiety, and drug abuse, resonated with some readers. However, he also realized that people primarily cared about the usefulness of his message rather than his personal story, which was a liberating realization.

1. Implement a Habit Loop

To build new habits, identify a ‘cue’ (e.g., leaving the bathroom), establish a ‘routine’ (e.g., 3 minutes of meditation), and create a ‘reward’ (e.g., tracking progress in an app) to reinforce the behavior.

2. Build Meditation Habit Gradually

Start a meditation practice with a realistic, short duration (e.g., 3 minutes daily) and gradually increase the time as the habit solidifies, eventually reaching longer sessions like 10 or 30 minutes.

3. Practice Vedic Meditation

To slowly strip stress from your body and improve intuition, practice Vedic meditation by sitting comfortably with eyes closed, gently and effortlessly repeating a mantra, and returning to it when thoughts arise.

4. Practice Shambhala Meditation

For immediate relaxation and reduced reactivity, practice Shambhala meditation by sitting upright with eyes open, gazing softly downwards, and bringing attention to your breath for about 10 minutes.

5. Trust Your Intuition

Make decisions based on what ‘feels right’ or your gut intuition, even if logical reasons are not immediately apparent, as this can lead to powerful life changes.

6. Drop Comparison Mindset

Avoid the ‘comparison story’ with peers and focus on your own unique path, as constant comparison can lead to ‘instant torture’ and distract from personal growth.

7. Mindful Comparison

Use mindfulness to draw the line between useful comparison (which can be motivating) and useless comparison (which is painful and wasted energy), recognizing when it becomes unproductive.

8. Embrace Public Vulnerability

Share your personal struggles and vulnerabilities publicly, as this can inspire others, foster deep connection, and help people relate to your message.

9. Focus on Usefulness

When creating or communicating, prioritize delivering something genuinely useful to others rather than being burdened by narcissistic self-obsession or worrying about what people think of you.

10. Speak From Your Heart

In difficult conversations or transitions, speak from your heart; people tend to respect this, even if the message is challenging or emotional.

11. Ask About Your Gifts

When uncertain about your next steps or career, ask trusted people what they perceive your greatest gifts or abilities to be, to generate new ideas and directions.

12. Adjust Lifestyle for Passions

To pursue passion projects or new ventures, be willing to adjust your lifestyle, such as moving to a more affordable living situation, to free up resources and time.

13. Combine Passions & Leadership

Identify your passions (e.g., meditation) and combine them with your leadership or community-organizing abilities to create meaningful initiatives and shared experiences.

14. Create Safe Conversation Spaces

Organize gatherings that not only share an activity (like meditation) but also ‘hold space’ for safe, vulnerable conversations about real-life challenges (e.g., relationships, money, career).

15. Integrate Intimate & Large Groups

When building a community, combine large-scale events that create mass connection with smaller, intimate peer-to-peer support groups to maintain depth and personal connection as you grow.

16. Stay True to Vision

When creating something, stand for what you believe in and stay true to your vision, even if it means not appealing to everybody or facing criticism; trying to please everyone can lead to mediocrity.

17. Meet People Where They’re At

Practice emotional intelligence in communication by understanding where others are coming from and adjusting your communication style to stay in sync, without alienating them with overly earnest or specific language.

18. Balance Authenticity & Approachability

Strive for a balance between being authentic and being approachable, ensuring your communication and initiatives are genuine without pushing people away with excessive earnestness or niche styles.

19. Make Meditation Relevant

Connect meditation practice to active and important areas of people’s lives, such as creativity, sex, relationships, money, and career purpose, to increase engagement and perceived value.

20. Meditate for Life Areas

Utilize meditation to enhance various components of your life, including improving your role as a lover, partner (romantic and business), and a creative person, leading to clearer decision-making.

21. Practice Without Enlightenment Goal

Approach your meditation practice without a specific goal like ’enlightenment,’ instead focusing on consistent sitting, trusting that ‘whatever happens is perfect,’ even if you’re thinking or experiencing plateaus.

22. Start Interest-Based Clubs

Create community and connection by starting clubs based on shared interests (e.g., cheeseburgers, biking), which can evolve into support groups or larger movements.

23. Lend Purpose to Projects

Look for ways to lend more purpose to your side projects and passions, such as turning a bike club into a bike share program for students in need, to increase meaning and impact.

24. Offer Beginner Meditation Technique

When hosting group meditation events, provide a simple, short technique (e.g., 4 minutes) for newcomers who may have never meditated before, to ensure they have a positive initial experience.

25. Encourage Practice Exploration

Foster a community where participants are encouraged to explore different meditation techniques, talk to others about their practices, and utilize diverse resources to find what works best for them.

26. Implement Tiered Event Pricing

For events or community gatherings, offer tiered pricing with varying contribution levels to accommodate different financial means, making participation accessible while supporting growth.

27. Refine Locally Before Scaling

Before expanding a concept globally, focus on refining, testing, and iterating it successfully in one location (e.g., a specific city) to ensure a strong foundation for broader reach.

28. Use Interactive Group Elements

In group settings, incorporate interactive elements like ‘make your own handshake’ or ‘snap instead of clap’ to break people out of their routines, loosen them up, and foster connection.

29. Join a Mindfulness Club

Seek out or join existing mindfulness clubs or groups in your community to practice meditation with like-minded people and build a consistent routine.

I'm 30. I stay out late and party. I start my own businesses. I use emojis and ride a skateboard. I go through a lot of breakups. I travel a ton. I get exhausted. I get excited. I get sad. I get inspired and I meditate twice a day.

Jesse Israel

So I'm able to follow my intuition and, um, uh, and feeling into that has been one of the most powerful kind of components to the way I live my life and the way that I make decisions in my life.

Jesse Israel

And the emails that used to come in, like the bad emails that kind of get you in the stomach, weren't really getting me in the stomach as much. I was kind of like, oh, you know, it was like bad news, good news, just news.

Jesse Israel

If you're willing to really stand for something and do it in the way that you believe in, you can have a real impact, but you may not – it may not appeal to everybody.

Jesse Israel

What people cared about was what do you, Harris, have for me that could be potentially useful? And that was actually hugely liberating because I don't know walking around under the false impression that people really care about me.

Dan Harris

Building a Meditation Habit (Jesse Israel's Method)

Jesse Israel
  1. Identify a cue: For Jesse, this was leaving the bathroom every morning.
  2. Establish a routine: Immediately sit down for three minutes and practice the Shambhala technique.
  3. Implement a reward: Use an app (like 'Chains') to tally daily practice, creating a visual chain of consistency.
  4. Gradually increase duration: After about a month of three-minute sessions, extend the practice to 10 minutes, then eventually to 30 minutes daily as the body naturally desires it.

Shambhala Meditation Technique (as practiced by Jesse Israel)

Jesse Israel
  1. Sit upright without back support.
  2. Gaze down at the ground with a soft gaze.
  3. Bring your attention to your breath.
  4. Practice for approximately 10 minutes (as initially suggested).

Vedic Meditation Technique

Jesse Israel
  1. Sit comfortably with back support.
  2. Close your eyes.
  3. Gently and effortlessly repeat a mantra (specific to the student).
  4. If thoughts arise, acknowledge them without judgment and gently return your attention to the mantra.
  5. Learn the specific rhythm and technique through a dedicated course.

MediClub Gathering Structure

Jesse Israel
  1. Gather together for a group meditation session.
  2. Hold space for safe, vulnerable conversations among attendees.
  3. Discuss relevant life topics such as sex, dating, relationships, money, career purpose, and social media comparison.
31 years old
Jesse Israel's age at the time of recording Described as a 'proud millennial'.
23-24 years old
Jesse's age when he felt overwhelmed by his record label When he started looking for stress management tools.
9 years
Duration Jesse ran his record label After signing MGMT.
10 guys
Number of members in Jesse's 'Burger Boys' cheeseburger club Met every other week.
18 friends
Initial number of friends on Jesse's first bike club ride The club later grew significantly.
Over a thousand people
Number of people in Jesse's bike club when he left his company Grew from 18 to over 1000 in about a year.
Up to 20 miles
Distance rural Tanzanian students walked to school Addressed by Jesse's bike share program.
December 2014
Month and year of the first MediClub meeting About a year and a half before the podcast recording.
About 23 people
Number of attendees at the first MediClub meeting Emailed to 40 people who were learning meditation.
150 people
Maximum number of attendees for a monthly MediClub gathering Considered the most effective size for these meetings.
10 people
Number of people in MediClub 'circles' Smaller, neighborhood-based group meditations and conversations.
Every Wednesday
Frequency of MediClub 'circles' meetings Hosted by trained community members.
6 events
Number of Big Quiet events held before the podcast recording Over the course of a year, averaging every 2-3 months.
2,000 people
Number of attendees at a Big Quiet event in Central Park Described as 'hipsters' meditating together.
$20,000
Profit from a Big Quiet event donated to City Parks Foundation From an event where tickets cost $25.
$10
Lowest price point for MediClub gatherings Part of a tiered pricing structure based on means.
$55
Highest price point for a Big Quiet event at Lincoln Center Part of a sliding scale pricing.
Over 150 cities and countries
Number of cities/countries requesting MediClub/Big Quiet hosting Received organically through their website's suggestion feature.
14 years
Age difference between Dan Harris and Jesse Israel Dan is older, representing Generation X to Jesse's Generation Y (Millennial).