Jon Kabat-Zinn | Meditation as a Love Affair

Jan 22, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Jon Kabat-Zinn, a pioneer in bringing mindfulness to the West, discusses how awareness is a hidden human dimension. He emphasizes that meditation extends beyond formal practice, urging listeners to view every moment as an opportunity to cultivate presence and wisdom for individual and global well-being.

At a Glance
24 Insights
1h 38m Duration
13 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Jon Kabat-Zinn and MBSR's Impact

Jon Kabat-Zinn's Karmic Assignment: Spreading Awareness

Awareness as a Hidden Dimension of Human Experience

The Paradox of Non-Doing and Inherent Wholeness

Global Challenges and the Urgency of Collective Awakening

Life as Meditation: Extending Practice Beyond the Cushion

Scientific Evidence for Mindfulness in Schools

Understanding the '10% Happier' Title and Non-Striving

Shifting the Default Mode Network for Broader Perspective

Morning Practice: Waking Up Before Getting Out of Bed

The Buddha's Silent Flower Teaching and Non-Dualism

Navigating Ego, Success, and Personal Intention

Jon Kabat-Zinn's Current Edge: Social and Racial Justice

Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR)

A standardized 8-week program developed by Jon Kabat-Zinn that teaches meditation without religious overtones or metaphysical claims. Its replicable protocol allowed scientists to test meditation on various populations, leading to an explosion of scientific research in the field.

Hidden Dimension (Awareness)

An innate human capacity, likened to a hidden dimension of reality, that is instantly available if we choose to occupy or avail ourselves of it. It is the direct perceptual knowing that comes with wakefulness and contact through the senses, often overlooked in daily life.

Homo sapiens sapiens

The species name for humans, derived from the Latin 'sapere' meaning 'to taste or to know.' This refers to a direct, perceptual knowing that comes with wakefulness and awareness, rather than an intellectual or conceptual understanding.

Non-dual Perspective

A way of understanding the unity within apparent dualisms, such as 'doing' and 'non-doing.' It emphasizes that one is already whole and 'okay' as they are, rather than striving to become a better version of themselves in the future, and that wisdom can hold both happiness and unhappiness.

Default Mode Network

A network in the brain that becomes highly active when individuals are asked to do nothing, primarily generating narratives about the self, past, future, successes, and failures. Mindfulness practice aims to shift this default mode from mindless reactivity to a broader, interconnected perspective.

Sentience / Consciousness

The philosophical concept of 'something to be like you,' referring to the mystery of how a constellation of atoms in the brain gives rise to awareness and subjective experience. This process is not understood by neuroscientists or philosophers, highlighting the miraculous nature of being alive.

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How did Jon Kabat-Zinn contribute to bringing meditation to the mainstream in the West?

Jon Kabat-Zinn developed Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR), a standardized 8-week protocol for teaching meditation without religious overtones. This allowed scientists to test meditation in a replicable way across different populations, leading to a significant increase in scientific research on meditation.

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What does it mean to 'drop underneath your thinking mind' or that there's 'nothing to do' in meditation?

It means recognizing that awareness is instantly available by shifting attention from constant thought to direct perceptual knowing through the senses. It's about realizing one's inherent wholeness and being okay as you are, rather than striving for a future, idealized state.

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How can meditation practice extend beyond formal sitting to everyday life?

Meditation practice can encompass every moment of life, not just formal sitting. By bringing awareness to daily activities like eating, hearing, or even sending an email, one can respond consciously rather than react on autopilot, making life itself the meditation.

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Can mindfulness training benefit children in schools?

Yes, an MIT study in inner-city Boston schools found that an 8-week mindfulness curriculum led to fewer problematic behavioral incidents and reduced amygdala activation (indicating less stress reactivity) in children compared to those in a coding class.

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How can mindfulness address large-scale global challenges like climate change and social injustice?

By fostering collective wakefulness, mindfulness can help humanity shift from self-preoccupation to an interconnected 'we' perspective. This can lead to wisdom-driven action and compassion, addressing root causes like greed, hatred, and delusion to heal the body politic and the planet.

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Is it possible to eradicate ego or self-centered intentions through meditation?

While the 'selfing' tendency (ego) is natural, meditation helps one question 'who is this self' and not identify with external success or narratives. This allows one to use whatever comes to them to contribute to the world's benefit, rather than being driven by endless accumulation or personal recognition.

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What is a significant challenge or 'growing edge' for experienced meditation practitioners?

A major challenge is recognizing and navigating one's blind spots, particularly concerning social and racial justice issues. This involves understanding experiences vastly different from one's own, confronting historical suffering, and learning how to hold that awareness with integrity without turning away.

1. Recognize Innate Wholeness

Inhabit the sense of being “okay enough as I am” and recognize your inherent wholeness, even for a single breath. This shift in self-perception fundamentally alters your relationship with subsequent moments and fosters healing.

2. Let Doing Emerge from Awareness

Allow your actions (“doing”) to emerge from a place of awareness and being, rather than being solely driven by external pressures. This approach integrates mindfulness into daily life, making actions more intentional and aligned.

3. Life as the Meditation Practice

Intentionally experiment with viewing every moment of life, regardless of your to-do agenda, as the meditation practice itself. This shifts meditation from a separate activity to an integrated way of being, allowing you to carry awareness into all daily activities.

4. Drop Underneath Thinking Mind

Practice dropping underneath your incessant thinking mind to access direct perceptual knowing and wisdom. This capacity is instantly available and offers a missing piece of human education, which typically only teaches how to think.

5. Cultivate Silent Wakefulness

Regularly set aside time to sit on a cushion or chair, or even just be still, and drop into the feeling of your breath moving in and out of your body. This practice fosters a profound “love affair” with the beauty and miracle of life.

6. Morning Wakefulness Practice

Upon waking, before getting out of bed, lie on your back and consciously “finish the job” of waking up by bringing awareness to your body (feet, hands, skin, breath) and dropping into wakeful silence for a few breaths. This cultivates presence before the day’s autopilot takes over.

7. Leverage the Present Moment

Focus on the present moment as the sole point of leverage for influencing the future. By inhabiting this larger dimension of the present, you naturally alter the trajectory of subsequent moments, making the future different.

8. Recognize Awareness as a Dimension

Recognize awareness as a hidden dimension of being human, a profound capacity we possess but rarely acknowledge. Availing yourself of this dimension can transform your experience of life without needing external changes.

9. Live Fully Now

Exercise the “muscle” of direct perceptual knowing to drop into the present moment and live fully now. This counters the tendency to constantly strive for an idealized future moment, allowing for immediate engagement with life.

10. Question ‘My’ and ‘Self’

Continuously question the nature of “my” and “self” beyond conventional labels like name, age, or gender, rather than seeking definitive answers. This ongoing inquiry helps uncover deeper truths about identity and fosters wiser relationships.

11. Shift Default Mode Network

Through regular meditation practice, aim to shift your brain’s default mode from mindless reactivity and self-preoccupation to a broader, interconnected perspective. This fosters compassion and a sense of “we” rather than “me.”

12. Embrace Imperfection in Practice

Accept failure and imperfection in your practice, recognizing that “it’s okay to fail miserably over and over again.” The practice is not about perfection, but about cultivating awareness of your actions and reactions, even when they fall short.

13. View Suffering as Feedback

View suffering as a feedback mechanism indicating a lack of mindfulness, prompting you to identify underlying hindrances like aversion or doubt. This perspective allows you to address these issues with awareness and transform the experience.

14. Surrender to Meditation Process

Surrender to the meditation process by accepting your role to simply sit, walk, and be mindful throughout the day, rather than fighting or resisting. This reduces the desire for the experience to be different or to end, fostering deeper engagement and acceptance.

15. Embrace Discomfort as Growth

Embrace discomfort, especially when confronting blind spots related to social and racial justice, as “growing pains.” This allows for learning and growth, leading to deeper human freedom by challenging conditioned narratives.

16. Driving Meditation (Eyes Open)

Practice “looking out the windshield meditation” by being aware of your breath and surroundings while driving, keeping eyes open and attention on the road. This integrates mindfulness into daily activities without compromising safety.

17. Befriend Yourself with Awareness

Cultivate a relationship of friendship with yourself through awareness. This practice fosters a “love affair with the beauty of life” and the miracle of your own body.

18. Wake Up to True Nature

Recognize and wake up to your “true nature” or “Buddha nature” as a miraculous being. Failing to do so is described as a “prescription for suffering,” while recognizing it can lead to healing and different ways of dealing with stress and pain.

19. Attend a Silent Retreat

Consider attending a silent meditation retreat, as it offers a dedicated environment for deep practice and can be a transformative experience for developing mindfulness.

20. Give Yourself a Break on Retreat

On retreat, give yourself a break, avoid striving to “win” or be the “best” meditator, and be okay with initial difficulties like sleepiness or frustration. This compassionate approach prevents self-judgment and allows for a more open experience.

21. Meditation is About Feeling Clearly

Understand that meditation’s purpose is to feel whatever you are feeling clearly, rather than to achieve a specific emotional state like bliss. This perspective helps to avoid self-judgment and frustration when practice doesn’t align with expectations.

22. Use Mental Notes for Hindrances

Employ gentle mental notes (e.g., “doubt,” “judgment”) to catch hindrances like self-judgment or doubt as they arise during meditation. This practice helps to identify and disarm insidious mental patterns, preventing them from overwhelming your awareness.

23. Continuity of Mindfulness on Retreat

Practice continuity of mindfulness throughout all daily activities, even private ones like eating or cleaning your room, especially on retreat. This consistent application of awareness helps to deepen your practice and integrate mindfulness more fully.

24. Neutral Mental Note for Distractions

When a distracting song or thought arises during meditation, use a neutral mental note like “hearing” or “aversion” instead of notes that imply resistance or judgment. This reduces fighting the distraction and transforms it into an object of meditation.

This kind of capacity that human beings have is like a hidden dimension, like what quantum physicists or string theorists or cosmologists would call hidden dimension of space time or reality.

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All we're taught in school is how to think, but not how to awareness.

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If you want to change the future, the only leverage, the only Archimedes fulcrum that you have available is this moment.

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What if life was the meditation and not what you think of as sitting in a particular posture, following your breath, looking at your watch to see how long it's going to take, and then having some good awareness experiences, but having it be part of this thing you're calling my meditation practice.

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What we're really talking about is too serious to take too seriously.

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You are not your story. You're not your narrative no matter how big your poster is or your face on the screen in Times Square.

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If mindfulness is the opposite of blindness, then there's nothing like diversity issues and social justice issues and racial justice issues to point out just exactly how blind all us meditators can be.

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Morning Wakefulness Practice

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  1. Lie on your back in what's called the corpse pose in yoga.
  2. Put your mind in your feet and feel your feet.
  3. Put your mind in your hands and feel your hands.
  4. Feel your whole body lying there and the envelope of your skin.
  5. Feel yourself breathing.
  6. Drop underneath your thoughts for just one in-breath and one out-breath, giving yourself over to total wakeful silence.
  7. Then get out of bed.
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Jon Kabat-Zinn's age At the time of the recording
8 weeks
Standard duration of MBSR training Protocol for teaching meditation
8 weeks
Duration of mindfulness curriculum in MIT study with school children Offered by Calmer Choice on Cape Cod
10 to 100 years
Timeframe for significant climate change impact (scientists' current estimate) Scientists are now going from 100 years down to 10
10,000
Approximate number of people at Buddha's silent talk As per the apocryphal story
3 hours
Duration of Buddha's silent talk before holding up a flower As per the apocryphal story