Josh Radnor, "How I Met Your Mother" Star Back in Theater

Dec 28, 2016 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Josh Radnor, known for "How I Met Your Mother," discusses his long-time Vedic meditation practice, which he started after a breakup. He credits meditation for helping him navigate the challenges of public exposure, career shifts, and maintaining equanimity amidst success.

At a Glance
27 Insights
40m 53s Duration
12 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Josh Radnor's Introduction to Meditation

Early Career and the Subtle Benefits of Meditation

Navigating Fame and Public Exposure

Distinguishing Resume Virtues from Eulogy Virtues

Understanding Vedic Meditation Principles

Meditation as an Antidote to Modern Noise

How Meditation Helps Process Success and Fame

Meditation's Role in Fostering Creativity

A Spiritual Approach to Celebrity and Life

Post-How I Met Your Mother Career Choices

Advice for Aspiring Professionals

Current Projects and Creative Philosophy

Vedic Meditation

A mantra-based meditation practice, similar to TM, where a meaningless sound (mantra) acts as a 'mind vehicle' to settle the mind effortlessly. Thoughts during meditation are seen as stress release, not distractions, and the practice aims to bring the mind to a subtle state of awareness without thought or sleep.

Resume Virtues vs. Eulogy Virtues

A concept from David Brooks' book 'The Road to Character,' distinguishing between qualities that make one hireable or interesting (resume virtues) and those that define one's character at a funeral, such as kindness, generosity, and compassion (eulogy virtues). The speaker aims to lean into the latter.

Mind as a Wonderful Servant, Terrible Master

An ancient wisdom suggesting that the mind is a powerful tool when controlled, but becomes a source of suffering and enslavement when it dominates one's experience with its constant thoughts, self-loathing, anxiety, or grievances. Meditation helps to quiet the mind and prevent it from being a terrible master.

Hedonic Adaptation

The psychological phenomenon where individuals quickly adjust to positive changes or successes, baking them into their baseline level of happiness, so the initial joy or appreciation diminishes rapidly. This explains why major achievements often don't provide sustained euphoria.

Genius as Exogenous Entity

An idea, popularized by Elizabeth Gilbert, that creativity or 'genius' was historically viewed as an external force or entity that one petitioned for inspiration, rather than an inherent quality of the individual. This perspective can be psychologically healthier than the burden of being 'the genius.'

Yoga (Ram Dass concept)

Ram Dass's teaching that 'whatever your life is, that's your yoga,' meaning that every circumstance, challenge, or success in one's life serves as a spiritual practice or opportunity for growth and self-discovery.

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How did Josh Radnor start meditating?

He started practicing Vedic meditation in 2004 after a difficult breakup, realizing he was projecting his own need for anxiety relief onto a former girlfriend and that he was deeply in need of meditation himself.

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What type of meditation does Josh Radnor practice?

He primarily practices Vedic meditation, which is a mantra-based practice similar to Transcendental Meditation (TM), derived from Hindu traditions.

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How does meditation help navigate fame and success?

Meditation provides an anchor and helps process success in a sane way, preventing one from going 'crazy' and maintaining equanimity amidst the ups and downs, recognizing that external success doesn't bring sustained euphoria.

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What is the difference between 'resume virtues' and 'eulogy virtues'?

Resume virtues are qualities that make one successful in a career or socially interesting, while eulogy virtues are deeper character traits like kindness, generosity, and compassion that people remember at one's funeral.

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How does meditation impact creativity?

Meditation can be a wellspring of creativity, leading to a flood of ideas and helping individuals work better by connecting them to something larger than themselves, rather than relying on stress or personal genius.

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What advice does Josh Radnor offer to young, ambitious people?

He advises getting a meditation practice to strengthen instinct and hear inner guidance amidst external and internal noise, and to find a way to be creative every day, especially by creating one's own work.

1. Cultivate a Daily Meditation Practice

Adopt a consistent meditation practice, ideally twice daily, as it subtly but profoundly transforms your life, helps process significant events, and maintains sanity amidst challenges.

2. Prioritize Eulogy Virtues

Consciously prioritize “eulogy virtues” like kindness, generosity, and compassion over “resume virtues” such as career achievements, to orient your life spiritually and find deeper, lasting meaning.

3. Seek Internal Guidance

Find answers and direction by going within and getting quiet, as this internal “GPS” provides true, sustainable peace and equanimity, rather than relying on external noise or gratification.

4. Master Your Mind

Strive to make your mind a servant rather than a master, recognizing that being enslaved to its constant thoughts, self-loathing, or anxiety is a source of suffering, especially in the modern world.

5. Embrace Personal Quietude

Cultivate the ability to be quiet by yourself, understanding that this internal stillness is fundamental for solving problems, fostering cooperation, and enabling deep, impactful leadership, as “all of the world’s problems stem from man’s inability to be quiet in a room by himself.”

6. Disprove Success Delusions

If you believe external successes like fame or wealth will bring ultimate happiness, pursue them to disprove this belief to yourself, then turn to the deeper, more meaningful work of internal quietude.

7. Boost Creativity Through Meditation

Utilize meditation to tap into a wellspring of creativity, as it can generate a flood of new ideas and connect you to a larger source of inspiration, enhancing your work.

8. Practice Creative Humility

Approach creativity with humility, viewing genius as an external entity you petition for inspiration, and focus on the action of creation without claiming credit for the outcomes, as “the fruits of the labor are not yours.”

9. Focus on Creation, Not Outcome

Concentrate on the act of making your work and “just keep making it,” detaching from the outcomes or “fruits of the labor,” as these are beyond your control and not your responsibility.

10. Create Your Own Opportunities

If you possess creative talents, especially writing, actively create your own work to utilize unexploited abilities and generate opportunities, rather than passively waiting for external recognition or provision.

11. Strengthen Instincts with Meditation

Develop a meditation practice to strengthen your instincts and improve your ability to quickly assess people and situations, guiding your decisions in collaborations and personal interactions.

12. Discern Others’ Intentions

Cultivate a strong internal “GPS” to quickly size up people and discern their true intentions, especially when encountering those who may have ulterior motives or “vampiric energy.”

13. Cultivate Authentic Friendships

Cherish and cultivate friendships with individuals who genuinely connect with you, irrespective of your public persona or achievements, as these relationships are more likely to be authentic and lasting.

14. Nourish Life, Cut Toxicity

Actively nourish your life by reading books that resonate positively with you and by decisively removing toxic individuals from your social circle.

15. Embrace Life as Your Yoga

Embrace your current life circumstances, whatever they may be (e.g., illness, success, financial struggle), as your personal “yoga” or spiritual practice, finding lessons and growth within them.

16. Adopt a Career Marathon Mentality

Adopt a “marathon” mentality for your career, understanding that after a highly visible success, it’s acceptable and often beneficial to step back, pursue quieter projects, or take a break.

17. Pursue What Lights You Up

Prioritize engaging in work and projects that genuinely “light you up” and resonate with your personal values, trusting your good taste and intuition as your guide.

Strive to create work that is both high-quality (“good”) and widely appreciated (“popular”), rejecting the false dichotomy that one must sacrifice quality for visibility or vice versa.

19. Contribute Valuable Content

Endeavor to create work that contributes valuable, spiritually informed content to the world, counteracting the prevalent toxicity and noise with centeredness and positive influence.

20. Recognize Middle Chapters

Counteract the mind’s tendency to view current challenges or situations as an “end” by recognizing that you are likely just in a “middle chapter” of your life’s story, with more possibilities ahead.

21. Observe the World Vitally

To slow down the perception of time and enrich your experience, consciously observe the world in a vital, engaged way, similar to how children experience everything as new.

22. Practice Effortless Mantra Meditation

When practicing mantra meditation, aim for effortlessness in repeating the mantra, understanding that even the intention to think it is sufficient, and thoughts are simply a natural release of stress.

23. Invest in Spiritual Instruction

When seeking spiritual instruction, be prepared to invest financially in a way that “pinches a little,” as this exchange of energy can increase your commitment and perceived value of the practice.

24. Recognize Personal Projection

Be aware of projection in your relationships; often, what you perceive as someone else’s problem might be a reflection of your own unmet needs or issues.

25. Resist External Pressures

Resist the urge to be guided by external pressures or the “voices” of others’ expectations, especially regarding public relevance or career trajectory, and instead follow your internal compass.

26. Focus on Present Opportunities

Avoid excessive focus on future goals, as it can distract you from recognizing and seizing present opportunities that are already coming your way.

27. Manage Success Complaints

Be mindful that complaining about the challenges of success can be isolating, as few people are receptive to such grievances, so find appropriate outlets or internal strategies for processing these feelings.

My teacher used to say, drop your consciousness, drop your old consciousness into your new body, and it would go crazy. Like, your body wouldn't be able to hold it. Like, the benefits of meditation are so subtle, and they just, they just reveal themselves in a very subtle way.

Josh Radnor

I think it would be a really great gig if you could have all the work and none of the fame. I think that would be like the sweet spot.

Josh Radnor

The ego is just, it's a bully. It's just going to scream at you. And, and that's one of the ways you can tell that it's the ego is if it's screaming and if there's confusion, because I feel like the... And if it's self-referential.

Josh Radnor

Mantra literally means mind vehicle and it's a, you know, you get an, uh, a mantra that's based on a number of different things, but, uh, kind of geared towards you and where you are in your life, I suppose. But it, it, it means mind vehicle and it, and it's just an automata poetic word that doesn't have any meaning.

Josh Radnor

All of the world's problems stem from man's inability to be quiet in a room by himself.

Blaise Pascal (quoted by Josh Radnor)

Whatever your life is, that's your yoga. That's your practice, you know.

Ram Dass (quoted by Josh Radnor)

The fruits of the labor, that has nothing to do with you. Make it.

Krishna to Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita (quoted by Josh Radnor)

Vedic Meditation Practice

Josh Radnor
  1. Close your eyes.
  2. Repeat a personalized, meaningless mantra as effortlessly as possible.
  3. Allow thoughts to come and go, viewing them as stress release without studying them.
  4. Return to the mantra when overrun by thoughts.
  5. Experience subtle awareness without thought or sleep.
  6. Meditate for 20 minutes, twice a day.
2004
Year Josh Radnor started meditating Specifically, the spring of 2004, when he learned Vedic meditation.
Twice daily
Frequency of meditation sessions Josh Radnor aims for two sessions per day, though he sometimes struggles to get the second one in.
20 minutes
Duration of meditation sessions Each meditation session is typically 20 minutes long.
2005 or 2006
Year 'How I Met Your Mother' pilot was filmed Josh Radnor filmed the pilot for the show around this time.
19
Ben Lee's age when he learned meditation from the same teacher Australian singer-songwriter Ben Lee learned meditation from Josh Radnor's teacher when he was 19.
January 22nd
End date for 'The Babylon Line' play The play at Lincoln Center runs until this date.