Robin Roberts, "GMA" Anchor, Cancer Survivor (Bonus Episode!)

Oct 17, 2016 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Robin Roberts, co-anchor of Good Morning America, shares her transformative journey with Transcendental Meditation, inspired by colleagues like Dan Harris and George Stephanopoulos. She discusses how meditation has brought her calm and mindfulness, complementing her deep Christian faith, and how she applies lessons of resilience from her health battles to her "Everybody's Got Something" podcast.

At a Glance
19 Insights
46m 55s Duration
12 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Robin Roberts' Introduction to Meditation

Observing Meditation's Impact on Colleagues

Initial Experiences and Benefits of Transcendental Meditation

Understanding Mantras and the TM Training Process

Robin's Profound First Meditation Experience

Navigating Meditation Depth and Consistency

Meditation's Impact on Temper and Daily Calm

The Complementary Relationship Between Faith and Meditation

Robin Roberts' Health Battles: Breast Cancer and MDS

The Bone Marrow Transplant Process

Everybody's Got Something: Robin's Book and Podcast

Lessons on Resilience and Facing Fear

Transcendental Meditation (TM)

A specific form of meditation taught by Bob Roth, requiring an initial commitment of several hours over 3-4 days to learn. It involves silently repeating a personalized mantra and is designed to help individuals access deeper states of consciousness.

Mantra

A word or phrase given by a Transcendental Meditation instructor that is silently repeated to oneself during meditation. It is considered personal to the meditator and should not be shared with others, serving as a tool to focus the mind.

Shallow End vs. Deep End of Meditation

An analogy used to describe varying depths of meditation experiences. Even if a session doesn't feel profoundly deep or transformative ('shallow end'), it still provides benefits, similar to getting wet even in the shallow part of a pool.

Meditation and Energy

Meditation can provide a sense of peace and energy simultaneously. This is explained by the idea that the mind's constant 'churning' or internal conversation saps energy, and meditation offers a break from this, akin to gaining extra sleep.

Myelodysplastic Syndrome (MDS)

A form of blood cancer, also referred to as pre-leukemia, that can lead to leukemia and other illnesses. Robin Roberts battled this condition, which necessitated a bone marrow transplant.

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How did Robin Roberts start meditating?

Robin Roberts was influenced by her 'Good Morning America' colleagues, George Stephanopoulos and Dan Harris, after observing their consistent calmness and asking about their secret to managing stress on the show.

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What type of meditation does Robin Roberts practice?

Robin Roberts practices Transcendental Meditation (TM), which she learned through Bob Roth of the David Lynch Foundation.

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Can meditation help with managing temper?

Yes, Robin Roberts found that meditation made her more mindful and reduced the frequency and intensity of her temper outbursts, allowing her to catch herself before reacting or even preventing the feeling from arising.

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Can you still have thoughts while meditating?

Yes, it's normal to have thoughts during meditation. The practice involves recognizing these thoughts and gently pushing them away, returning to the mantra or focus, rather than trying to completely shut off the mind.

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How does meditation relate to religious faith?

Robin Roberts, a devout Christian, views meditation and faith as complementary rather than competitive. She believes meditation can enrich one's prayer life by fostering a calmer, more present state of mind, allowing for deeper listening or connection.

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What health challenges has Robin Roberts faced?

Robin Roberts battled breast cancer in 2007 and later myelodysplastic syndrome (a form of blood cancer, also called pre-leukemia) in 2012, which required a bone marrow transplant.

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What is the core message of Robin Roberts' book and podcast, 'Everybody's Got Something'?

The core message is that everyone faces challenges ('something'), and the goal is not to dwell on the tragedy but to learn from experiences, understand their purpose, and use one's 'mess' to create a 'message' of hope and resilience for others.

1. Meditation Consistency & Self-Compassion

Don’t put pressure on yourself for perfect meditation consistency; it’s okay to have gaps, just return to the practice, as this reduces self-judgment and encourages continued engagement.

2. Meditation for Stress Management

Consider meditation to manage stress and maintain composure in high-pressure environments, as observed in a colleague who transformed from ‘wound up’ to ‘cool’ after starting the practice.

3. Acknowledge & Redirect Thoughts

When meditating, don’t try to force your mind to be thoughtless; instead, acknowledge thoughts as they arise, gently recognize them, and then redirect your attention back to your practice.

4. Daily Meditation Routine

Practice meditation consistently for 20 minutes in the morning, and allow an additional two minutes to transition out of the meditative state gradually. Consider adding a second session in the afternoon, regardless of your schedule, for potentially enhanced benefits.

5. Cultivate Present Moment Experience

Use meditation to cultivate a mindset of fully experiencing present moments, both good and bad, rather than rushing through them, to gain understanding and insight into your path.

6. Push Through Fear

Don’t wait for fear to disappear before taking action; instead, acknowledge its presence and ‘push through it’ to achieve your goals, as fear often doesn’t subside on its own.

7. Meditation Enhances Rest & Energy

Incorporate early morning meditation into your routine, as it can provide a sense of increased rest and energy, akin to gaining extra sleep, despite waking up earlier.

8. No Expectations for Meditation Depth

Don’t judge the depth or quality of your meditation sessions; even a ‘shallow’ experience still provides benefits, similar to how dipping into a pool still gets you wet.

9. Meditation for Mindfulness

Meditation can lead to increased mindfulness and a calmer demeanor, helping you align with the person you’ve always wanted to be, with effects often noticed later in the day.

10. Meditation Reduces Impulsive Reactions

Meditation can help you catch yourself before reacting impulsively and reduce the intensity or frequency of negative emotional responses, even if they don’t disappear entirely.

11. Initial TM Training Commitment

To learn Transcendental Meditation, commit to an initial training period of three to four days, involving several hours each day, to become fully immersed in the practice.

12. Mantra Practice & Privacy

When practicing mantra-based meditation (like TM), repeat your assigned mantra silently to yourself and keep it private, as it’s a personal tool for the practice.

13. Flexible Meditation Posture

For TM, you don’t need to adopt specific physical postures; you can meditate in a comfortable position that feels realistic and tangible for you.

14. Adjust Mantra Pace

Adjust the pace of your mantra repetition during meditation; slow it down when struggling with thoughts, or speed it up, finding a rhythm that helps manage mental chatter.

15. Establish Morning Meditation Ritual

Establish a specific morning meditation ritual, including setting the room’s ambiance (e.g., certain shade) and sitting upright, to differentiate it from sleep and enhance focus.

16. Meditation Complements Faith

If you have religious faith, integrate meditation as a complementary practice rather than viewing it as a conflict; it can enrich your spiritual life and prayer without requiring a specific belief system.

17. Daily Prayer of Protection

Incorporate a daily ‘prayer of protection’ (e.g., ‘The light of God surrounds me…’) as part of your morning ritual after meditation and before leaving the house, regardless of location.

18. Learn from Others’ Resilience

Seek out and learn from the experiences of others, especially those who have overcome challenges, to find ‘clues’ for success and cultivate resilience in your own life.

19. This Too Shall Pass Reminder

When facing difficult times, remind yourself that ’this too shall pass’ to maintain perspective and encourage perseverance, even if you wish for relief sooner.

I will meditate for the rest of my life. I will be one of those that, good Lord willing, and the creek don't rise, I'm going to be an old lady one day, and I'll be on my porch, and they'll go, shh, that old lady, she's meditating. She's meditating again.

Robin Roberts

Even when you're in the shallow end, you still got wet.

Bob Roth (recounted by Robin Roberts)

I think it brought out the core of who I am. It just, it, I think it enhanced it. It didn't change, but I, I think what was in me all along, it just helped highlight. It helped bring out.

Robin Roberts

The churning of the mind or what the Buddhists would call this just, they call it suffering... is just sucking energy out of your system. And actually, so the, the, the 20 or 40 or 44 minutes or whatever amount of minutes you're doing a meditation, even if it's five, is five fewer minutes of that.

Dan Harris (attributing a neuroscientist)

There is no such thing to me as fearlessness. You just, you just do it. If you're going to wait for fear to subside, go away. You're going to be waiting a long time.

Robin Roberts

That's not the tragedy, what it is that we've gone through. It's if we don't take the time to understand why and what we're going to learn from it. And not just for ourselves, but to be able to teach others and to make our mess our message.

Robin Roberts

Transcendental Meditation (TM) Training

Bob Roth (recounted by Robin Roberts)
  1. Commit 3-4 days for initial training, dedicating 3-4 hours each day.
  2. Receive a personalized mantra from the instructor, which is to be kept private.
  3. Repeat the mantra silently to oneself during meditation sessions.
  4. Recognize thoughts when they arise and gently push them away, returning focus to the mantra.
  5. Do not put pressure on yourself to achieve a 'deep' meditation experience; any engagement provides benefit.

Robin Roberts' Daily Meditation Practice

Robin Roberts
  1. Wake up earlier than usual (e.g., 3:15 AM for a 4 AM work start).
  2. Set up the room with a certain shade or ambiance.
  3. Sit up in a specific way to avoid falling asleep during meditation.
  4. Meditate for 20 minutes using a mantra.
  5. Take 2 minutes to gradually transition out of the meditation.
  6. Aim to do a second meditation in the afternoon, regardless of the fluctuating schedule.

Bone Marrow Transplant Process

Robin Roberts
  1. Undergo 10 consecutive days of chemotherapy to completely wipe out the body's entire immune system (the last day's chemo is nicknamed 'the rabbit').
  2. Receive healthy stem cells from a donor.
  3. Hope and pray that the body accepts the new stem cells and that they integrate successfully.
3 out of 10
Chance of family member being a perfect match for bone marrow transplant Meaning 70% of the time, a stranger from a registry is needed.
10 consecutive days
Duration of chemotherapy to wipe out immune system before bone marrow transplant The last day's chemo is nicknamed 'the rabbit'.
8 years
Age difference between Robin Roberts and her sister Sally Ann Sally Ann was Robin's perfect bone marrow donor match.
2007
Year Robin Roberts was diagnosed with breast cancer She 'thrived' in the aftermath.
2012
Year Robin Roberts was diagnosed with myelodysplastic syndrome This was a 'hellacious year' for her, also involving her mother's passing.
2004
Year Robin Roberts' father passed away He and her mother were married for 57 years.