Sara Bareilles On: The Feelings You Fear Might Destroy You, What Antidepressants Actually Did to Her Creativity, and Why There's Nothing to Fix

Aug 28, 2026 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Grammy-winning artist Sara Bareilles discusses her album "Good Grief," exploring how losing close friends transformed her perspective on grief, mental health, fertility struggles, and the creative process as a spiritual transmission. She shares insights on medication, aging, and patriotism.

At a Glance
8 Insights
1h 3m Duration
10 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Sara Bareilles and "Good Grief"

Vulnerability in Sharing Personal Artistic Work

The Transformative Nature of Grief

Grief as a Shortcut to Truth and Presence

Sara's Experience with Lexapro and Mental Health

Acceptance Versus Optimization: "Nothing to Fix"

The Creative Process as Spiritual Transmission

Sara's Fertility Struggles and Miscarriage

Patriotism, Love of Country, and Current Politics

The Distorting Effects of Social Media

Name It to Tame It

A therapeutic concept suggesting that articulating difficult feelings reduces their power. By putting words to emotions like dread or wobbliness, one makes them real and relatable, diminishing their overwhelming impact.

Grief as Shortcut to Truth

The idea that intense loss strips away distractions, leading to a profound sense of presence and awareness. It tenderizes one's expression and fosters gratitude for the present moment by highlighting life's impermanence.

Nothing to Fix

A countercultural notion advocating for acceptance of one's current state without attempting to change or optimize it. It emphasizes being in relationship with "what is" rather than constantly striving for improvement.

Creative Transmission

A philosophy where music or art is seen as existing in the "ether" and seeking a "portal" (the artist) to come through. The artist's role is to clear their channel, allowing ideas to arrive rather than manufacturing them.

Acceptance vs. Resignation

The distinction that accepting reality as it is (seeing things as they are) does not mean giving up. Instead, it allows for compassionate action and engagement with the world, even when facing difficult circumstances.

?
How can sharing vulnerability help with difficult emotions?

Sharing feelings of dread or wobbliness with others, or even just naming them aloud, reduces their power and fosters connection, making them feel less overwhelming.

?
What is the transformative power of grief?

Grief acts as a shortcut to truth, tenderizing one's expression and bringing a profound sense of presence and gratitude for the present moment, reminding us of life's impermanence.

?
How can medication impact artistic creativity and self-identity?

While there might be initial fear that medication suppresses essential parts of oneself or artistry, for some, it can feel like a "return to self," improving quality of life and enabling creative work by managing anxiety or depression.

?
What is the "nothing to fix" philosophy in an era of optimization?

This philosophy encourages being in relationship with "what is" without trying to change, alter, or fix it, emphasizing acceptance of one's current state, including natural processes like aging.

?
How does an artist receive a "transmission" for their work?

Some artists believe music or ideas exist in the "ether," and their role is to clear their creative channel, silencing the inner editor, to allow these transmissions to flow through them, rather than manufacturing the output.

?
How can one reconcile love of country with its flaws?

It's possible to love one's country and its founding ideals while acknowledging its deep flaws and mourning what it's becoming, without surrendering patriotism to those who weaponize it.

?
How does social media distort our perception of reality?

Social media algorithms are designed to make people angry and anxious, reinforcing priors and bolstering prejudices, thereby distorting one's experience of the world and reality.

1. Embrace Grief’s Transformative Power

Allow grief to tenderize you and bring a heightened sense of presence and gratitude for the current moment, as it reveals fundamental truths about life’s impermanence.

2. Practice Radical Acceptance

Relate to your current reality without trying to change or fix it, embracing the present moment as it is, rather than striving for constant optimization.

3. Consider Mental Health Medication

If struggling with anxiety or depression, consider medication as a tool to improve quality of life and return to a more capable, authentic self, freeing up mental space for service and engagement.

4. Clear Your Creative Channel

Approach creation by clearing your mental space, silencing the inner editor, and allowing ideas to flow through you, rather than trying to force or own the output.

5. Name Your Feelings

Acknowledge and articulate difficult emotions to reduce their intensity and gain a sense of control over them.

6. Share Your Worries

Talking about feelings of dread or wobbliness with others reduces their power and fosters connection.

7. Reclaim Patriotism

Hold a nuanced view of patriotism, loving your country for its ideals while acknowledging its deep flaws, rather than surrendering the concept to those who weaponize it.

8. Limit Social Media Distortion

Actively manage your social media use and strive to experience the world directly, rather than through the distorting lens of online algorithms designed to provoke anger and anxiety.

Grief is a shortcut to the truth.

Andrea Gibson (via Sara Bareilles)

Name it to tame it.

Dan Harris

The more you allow it to be the less power it has over, over you.

Sara Bareilles

What I experienced being on medication to feel like is it was a return to myself.

Sara Bareilles

You're not broken. There's nothing to fix.

Shoshana Bean (via Sara Bareilles)

The music is not mine. It just is sort of, it's in the ether and it's looking for the portal and it comes through.

Sara Bareilles

We don't see the world as it is. We see the world as we are.

Anais Nin (via Sara Bareilles/Dan Harris)

Acceptance is different than resignation.

Sara Bareilles
six to seven years
Average time between Sara Bareilles' albums Described as 'shockingly not so typical for people who are trying to be competitive musical artists in the pop sphere'.
10 years
Duration of Sara Bareilles' friendship with Gavin Creel Described as a profound gift of a life.
2020
Year Sara Bareilles' friend Chad Joseph died Referred to as a 'banner year' sarcastically.
2020
Year Sara Bareilles wrote 'Wind is the Weather' Written on her birthday, pre-medication, during a period of intense anxiety.
two years
Duration Andrea Gibson was 'in love with life' after cancer diagnosis A surprising state of rapture for someone who dealt with suicidality and major depression.
end of this year
Launch of Sara Bareilles' new musical Another creative project alongside her album and documentary.
September 2nd
Release date for 'Good Grief' documentary in theaters Described as a 'sister piece' to the record, offering a behind-the-scenes look.