The Psychology of Money | Morgan Housel

Jan 9, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Morgan Housel, author of The Psychology of Money, discusses how financial success is more about behavior than intelligence, the difference between being rich and wealthy, and the crucial concept of "enough." He explores money's role in happiness and how lived experiences shape our financial perspectives.

At a Glance
35 Insights
1h 14m Duration
18 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction: Money as a Source of Anxiety

Financial Success: Behavior Over Intelligence

Controlling Greed and Fear in Investing

Viewing Market Volatility as a Fee, Not a Fine

The Connection Between Money, Happiness, and Contentment

The Tumultuous Lives of the Super Rich

The Allure of Wealth and Missed Life Experiences

The Balance Between YOLO and Financial Independence

Money's Role in Reducing Misery vs. Increasing Happiness

Overcoming Insatiability and Moving Financial Goalposts

The Irony of Desiring Admiration for Possessions

Defining 'Enough' as a Mindset, Not a Number

Why Nobody's Crazy: Lived Experiences Shape Money Views

The Importance of Saving for Saving's Sake

Reasonable Financial Decisions are Better Than Rational

Worshiping Room for Error in Financial Planning

Motivation Beyond Money: Love and Responsibility

The Importance of Empathy and Diverse Perspectives on Money

Behavioral Finance

Success with money has less to do with how smart you are and more to do with how you behave, such as consistently saving, investing for the long term, and controlling your sense of greed and fear. This contrasts with most other fields where intelligence and education are paramount.

Volatility as a Fee

Instead of viewing stock market downturns as a 'fine' or punishment for a mistake, it's better to see them as a 'fee' – the cost of admission to achieve good long-term returns over decades. This mindset helps make market fluctuations more palatable and less stressful.

Happiness vs. Contentment

Money may not buy fleeting 'happiness,' which is a momentary emotion, but it can buy 'contentment,' which is a more stable state of being okay with one's lot in life and having accomplished goals. The super-rich are often unhappy despite their wealth, while the 'merely rich' (e.g., doctors, executives) often achieve contentment.

Rich vs. Wealthy

Being 'rich' means having enough money to cover desired monthly expenses and buy nice things, which is often visible to others. Being 'wealthy' refers to money that has been saved, invested, and not spent, providing freedom, control, and autonomy over one's time and life, which is largely invisible.

Enoughness as a Mindset

The concept of 'enough' is not a specific monetary number but a mindset where one's expectations grow slower than their income aspirations. This allows for a continuous sense of astonishment and satisfaction with one's circumstances, rather than constant striving for more, and helps to stop the goalposts from moving.

Room for Error

This is the crucial gap between what might happen and what needs to happen for one to be okay financially. It involves having savings not earmarked for specific, foreseeable expenses, but rather for unforeseen risks and surprises that inevitably arise in life, as the biggest risks are always those you don't see coming.

Reasonable vs. Rational

While finance is often taught as a rational, mathematical discipline, human financial decisions are often driven by emotions, conflicting signals, and personal goals. Being 'reasonable' means making decisions that help one sleep at night or feel happier, even if they don't appear 'rational' on a spreadsheet, because humans are emotional beings, not just calculators.

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Is financial success more about intelligence or behavior?

Financial success has little to do with how smart you are and a lot to do with how you behave, particularly your ability to control greed and fear, save consistently, and invest long-term.

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How should one view stock market volatility?

It's better to view volatility as a 'fee' – the cost of admission for good long-term returns – rather than a 'fine' or punishment, as market downturns are historically common and part of the investing process.

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What is the connection between money and happiness?

Money may not buy fleeting 'happiness,' but it can buy 'contentment' by providing freedom, control, and autonomy, and by reducing stress and misery associated with financial insecurity.

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Why do the super rich often have tumultuous personal lives?

Super-rich individuals often possess oddball, obsessive personalities that drive their extreme success but also lead to negative attributes and an unbalanced, often unhappy, personal life due to their 24/7 focus on work.

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How can one combat the human tendency toward insatiability and constantly moving financial goalposts?

Realize that nobody admires your 'stuff' as much as you do, as people tend to imagine themselves with it. Cultivate a mindset where your expectations grow slower than your income aspirations, and have a deep appreciation for history and global living standards.

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What is the difference between being rich and being wealthy?

'Rich' means having enough money for desired monthly expenses and buying nice things (visible), while 'wealthy' is the unspent money saved and invested, providing freedom and autonomy (invisible).

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Why do people make seemingly irrational financial decisions?

People are not purely rational machines; their financial decisions are anchored to their unique lived experiences, emotions, and conflicting goals, making what seems 'crazy' to one person perfectly reasonable to another.

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Why is it important to save money beyond specific, foreseeable goals?

It's vital to save for 'saving's sake' to create 'room for error' for unforeseeable risks like layoffs, divorce, or medical emergencies, as the biggest risks are always those you don't see coming.

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What is the best approach to financial decision-making, given human nature?

Aim to be 'reasonable' rather than strictly 'rational.' Financial decisions should help you sleep at night or make you happier, even if they don't optimize for a spreadsheet, because humans are emotional beings, not just calculators.

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What motivates successful people beyond money once 'enough' is achieved?

Motivation can shift from primarily money to enjoyment of the work itself, the desire for independence and autonomy, and a sense of responsibility or 'love' for family, friends, colleagues, and community, not wanting to disappoint them.

1. Prioritize Financial Behavior Over Intelligence

Prioritize developing good financial behaviors (e.g., saving, long-term investing) over relying solely on intelligence or education, as behavior is more critical for financial success than intellect.

2. Cultivate an “Enough” Mindset

Develop a mindset of “enoughness” where your expectations grow slower than your income aspirations, rather than defining “enough” as a specific, fixed monetary number.

3. Master Greed and Fear in Investing

Cultivate control over greed and fear in financial decisions by consistently saving and investing for the long term (e.g., 30-50 years) without panicking during market fluctuations. This approach can lead to significant wealth and financial independence.

4. Prioritize Relationships and Community

Prioritize spending time with family and friends, adding value to your community, and maintaining personal connections, as these are the things people on their deathbeds universally regret not doing more of, not accumulating more money.

5. Suppress Ego to Boost Savings

Suppress your ego and the desire to flaunt wealth (e.g., fancy cars, jewelry) to increase your savings rate, as savings represent the gap between your ego and your income.

6. Plan for Plans to Fail

Integrate “room for error” into all financial plans and budgets, anticipating that unforeseen events will disrupt original plans, and build in buffers to absorb unexpected risks and damages.

7. Save for Unforeseeable Risks

Save money not just for foreseeable expenses (car, house, college) but specifically for unforeseeable risks and emergencies (e.g., job loss, divorce, medical emergency), as these are the biggest threats.

8. Use Wealth for Autonomy and Control

Leverage wealth to gain control and autonomy over your time and life choices (e.g., where to live, work, retire) rather than solely for acquiring material possessions, as this significantly enhances life quality.

9. Prioritize Building Wealth Over Richness

Differentiate between “rich” (having money to spend on things) and “wealthy” (having unspent money saved and invested), and prioritize building wealth for the control and autonomy it provides.

10. Be Reasonable, Not Just Rational

Accept that financial decisions are often made with emotions and conflicting goals, so aim for “reasonable” choices that align with your well-being (e.g., sleeping better at night) rather than strictly “rational” ones that might only look good on a spreadsheet.

11. Consistent, Hands-Off Index Fund Investing

Invest consistently every month in low-cost index funds for 30-50 years, avoiding panic or frequent account checking during market downturns, as this hands-off approach often outperforms active management.

12. View Volatility as an Investment Fee

Reframe stock market volatility not as a “fine” for making a mistake, but as a “fee” or cost of admission necessary to achieve good long-term returns over 10-20 years.

13. Reduce Misery with Financial Security

Focus on using money to reduce stress and anxiety by removing financial worries (e.g., mortgage payments, feeding children), which can lead to fewer bad days, even if it doesn’t guarantee more happy ones.

14. Aim for Contentment, Not Happiness

Understand that money is more likely to buy contentment (a sense of being okay with your life and accomplishments) rather than fleeting happiness, and adjust your expectations accordingly.

15. Don’t Overestimate Social Benefit of Stuff

Realize that others do not admire your possessions (e.g., nice cars, homes) as much as you think; they are more likely imagining themselves with those items, which should decrease your desire for “stuff” for social validation.

16. Manage Expectations Below Aspirations

Actively work to keep your financial expectations growing slower than your income aspirations to create a gap that accrues to your well-being and helps you feel more content.

17. Maintain Unearmarked “Excess” Savings

Aim for a level of savings that feels “a little bit too much” and is not earmarked for specific, foreseeable expenses, as this unallocated capital provides a crucial buffer against unforeseen life surprises.

18. Own Your Future Through Savings

Understand that every dollar saved grants you ownership over a piece of your future, while every dollar of debt means a piece of your future is owned by someone else, motivating you to save more.

19. Absorb Manageable Risk and Damage

Shift your mindset from trying to avoid all risk to building the capacity to absorb manageable damage and risk, as this is a more realistic and effective approach to life’s uncertainties.

20. Motivate by Not Disappointing Loved Ones

Allow motivation to stem from the desire not to disappoint loved ones (e.g., children, spouse, parents, coworkers), fostering a good, enjoyable career that sets a positive example.

21. Cultivate Empathy and Open-Mindedness

Cultivate a high level of empathy and open-mindedness towards the financial views and life experiences of others, especially those vastly different from your own, to broaden your perspective.

22. Understand Market Volatility History

Educate yourself on the historical commonality of major stock market volatility (e.g., 25% declines every 3-4 years) to better prepare for and manage reactions to future market pullbacks.

23. Reduce Investment Trading Activity

Minimize buying, selling, and trading activity in your investments, as higher activity is correlated with worse average returns.

24. Save More, Be More Patient

Recognize that the fundamental solutions to most financial problems involve consistently saving more money and exercising patience, rather than seeking quick fixes or “magic pills.”

25. Widen Your “Room for Error” Gap

Ensure there’s a wide gap between what might happen and what needs to happen for you to be okay, as this “room for error” is crucial for navigating life’s unpredictable challenges.

26. Empathize with Diverse Financial Views

Recognize that people’s financial decisions, even if they seem “crazy” to you, make sense from their perspective, as they are anchored in their unique life experiences; cultivate empathy for these differing views.

27. Appreciate Present Through History

Cultivate a deep appreciation for history and the living conditions of most people globally, both past and present, to keep your expectations in check and remain amazed by your current circumstances.

28. Beware of Shifting Financial Goalposts

Be mindful of the human tendency to constantly move financial goalposts and compare yourself to others, especially on social media, as this can prevent you from feeling better off even with progress.

29. Distinguish Money-Solvable Problems

Distinguish between true life problems (e.g., serious health crises) and issues that money can solve, using this perspective to reduce anxiety about financial setbacks.

30. Aim to Enjoy Half Your Work

Set a realistic expectation for work-life balance by aiming to enjoy at least half of your work, recognizing that this level of enjoyment is considered amazing and achievable for few.

31. Prioritize Passion Over Highest Pay

As financial motivation decreases, prioritize career projects and creative endeavors (e.g., writing, speaking) that genuinely interest you, rather than solely pursuing those that offer the highest pay.

32. Connect More with Parents

Make an effort to call parents more often and be less dismissive of their views, as these are common regrets later in life.

33. Set Realistic Investment Returns

Set realistic investment expectations, understanding that earning 8-10% per year is an amazing return, rather than expecting to double your money quickly.

34. Understand Diverse Worldviews Without Guilt

Recognize that your worldview is a tiny fraction of global experience, and strive to understand how others think without feeling guilty about your own circumstances, fostering open-mindedness.

35. Travel to Poor Nations for Perspective

Engage in world travel, particularly to poorer nations, to gain eye-opening perspective on how the majority of the world lives, fostering gratitude and challenging your own assumptions.

Doing well with money has little to do with how smart you are and a lot to do with how you behave.

Morgan Housel

Risk is what is left over when you think you've thought of everything.

Carl Richards (quoted by Morgan Housel)

People who say money doesn't buy happiness don't have any.

Movie Boiler Room (quoted by Morgan Housel)

Nobody is thinking about your stuff as much as you are.

Morgan Housel

Every dollar of savings that you have is a piece of your future that you own. And on the contrary, every dollar of debt that you have is a piece of your future that somebody else owns.

Morgan Housel

There are problems and then there are things money can solve.

Dan Harris's father (quoted by Dan Harris)

It's good to have people in your life who you don't want to disappoint.

Warren Buffett (quoted by Morgan Housel)
Over 2 million
Copies sold of 'The Psychology of Money' Translated into over 50 languages worldwide.
25%
Stock market decline year-to-date As of the time of the podcast recording (last nine months).
Every three or four years
Average frequency of major stock market declines (20% or more) Historically over the last 100 years.
200-fold
Stock market increase over the last century Despite constant chains of loss, pullbacks, and bear markets.
14
Divorces among the top 10 richest people in the world Among the top 10 richest people.
25 years
Bill Gates' work schedule during early career Worked seven days a week, often 11 PM to 6 AM, sacrificing personal life.
2018
Year Tesla almost went bankrupt Elon Musk slept in the factory, working 24 hours a day, sacrificing time with children.
Majority
Proportion of lottery tickets purchased by poorest Americans Purchased by the poorest decile of Americans.
12 days
Average cash on hand for American restaurants before COVID-19 Enough to survive for 12 days, highlighting lack of room for error.
1,000 people
Number of elderly Americans interviewed for '30 Lessons for Living' Most were in their 90s or early hundreds, reflecting on life.