The Science of Depression | Sona Dimidjian

Jan 19, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Sona Dimidjian, a professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder, discusses seasonal depression, the science of how meditation can help manage it, and introduces "behavioral antidepressants" as a strategy for coping with depressive episodes.

At a Glance
20 Insights
1h 2m Duration
13 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Seasonal Impacts on Mood and Depression

Understanding Habits of Mind: Rumination and Fixation

Mindfulness as a Tool Against Depression Relapse

The Crucial Role of Kindness and Self-Compassion in Practice

Practical Application of Kindness in Mindfulness

Research Evidence for Mindfulness-Based Programs

Mindful Mood Balance: A Digital MBCT Program

Distinguishing Acute Depression from Lingering Symptoms

Behavioral Activation: An Action-Oriented Approach to Depression

Personalized Behavioral Antidepressants

Antidepressant Medication vs. Mindfulness-Based Interventions

Specific Efficacy and Enduring Benefits of Interventions

Compassion Meditation and its Effects

Rumination

Rumination is the tendency to elaborate, tell stories, and engage in a mental narrative mode, often getting stuck in negative thought patterns. It is a process that can contribute to and predict the relapse of depression.

Fixation

Fixation is the tendency to dwell on the negative aspects of experiences or situations. When combined with rumination, it creates a vulnerability for individuals to get caught in depressive cycles.

Decentering

Decentering is the capacity to step back from thoughts, sensations, or emotions and observe them as transient phenomena, like clouds passing or leaves floating on a stream, rather than getting pulled into them. This meta-awareness helps prevent getting caught in negative mental patterns.

Behavioral Activation (BA)

Behavioral Activation is a robust approach for treating and managing acute depression, focusing on action and engagement with the world. It involves noticing the connection between activities and feelings, and systematically scheduling activities that bring a sense of accomplishment, connection, or enjoyment to counter withdrawal and avoidance.

Behavioral Antidepressant

A 'behavioral antidepressant' refers to a personalized list of activities that bring an individual a sense of accomplishment, connection, or enjoyment. These activities are identified through self-awareness and intentionally integrated into daily routines to counteract depressive tendencies, especially during acute episodes.

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Is there a link between the seasons and depression or mood?

Yes, for some people, their experience of depression is directly influenced by seasonal shifts, particularly changes in light access, which can impact biological rhythms and disrupt daily routines. Holidays can also add stress or joy.

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What are the 'habits of mind' that contribute to getting stuck in depression?

Two key processes are rumination (the tendency to elaborate and tell stories in a mental narrative mode) and fixation (the tendency to dwell on the negative). When combined, these create vulnerability to depression relapse.

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How does mindfulness help prevent getting caught by fixation and rumination?

Mindfulness helps by training the capacity to intentionally direct attention and to 'decenter' or step back from thoughts and emotions, observing them without getting pulled in. These skills are taught within a broader context of kindness and gentleness towards oneself.

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How can one practically bring kindness and self-compassion into meditation practice?

This can be done by setting an intention for the day, engaging in formal loving-kindness practices (e.g., repeating phrases like 'May I be well'), and bringing a gentle attitude to noticing when the mind wanders or when self-judgment arises, rather than criticizing oneself for it.

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When should someone consider a program like Mindful Mood Balance or MBCT?

These programs are particularly helpful for individuals who have experienced prior episodes of depression, may have lingering residual symptoms, but are not in an acute, severe episode. They require sufficient inner resources like energy and concentration to engage effectively.

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What approach is recommended for people in the depths of an acute depressive episode?

For acute depression, the focus should be on action and engaging with the world, rather than solely mindfulness practices that require significant concentration. An approach called Behavioral Activation is recommended, which involves identifying and scheduling activities that bring enjoyment, accomplishment, or connection to counter withdrawal.

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How do antidepressant medications compare to mindfulness-based programs in terms of long-term benefits?

Antidepressant medication benefits persist only as long as people continue taking them, with no enduring benefits once stopped. In contrast, mindfulness-based programs like Mindful Mood Balance or MBCT show enduring benefits even after the program ends, suggesting a lasting learning effect.

1. Practice Self-Kindness in Mindfulness

Approach mindfulness practice with an attitude of kindness and gentleness towards oneself, avoiding self-judgment or harshness when facing challenges or perceived failures. This prevents mindfulness from becoming another tool for self-criticism and fosters a more effective learning process.

2. Practice Decentering Thoughts

Learn to notice thoughts, sensations, or emotions as they are, stepping back from them (decentering) rather than getting caught in mental narratives or dwelling on the negative. This skill helps to intentionally bring awareness to experiences and counter the risk of rumination and fixation, which can predict depression relapse.

3. Cultivate Meta-Awareness

Develop the capacity to step back and observe thoughts, sensations, or emotions with ‘meta-awareness,’ like watching clouds passing in the sky or leaves floating along a stream, instead of getting pulled into them. This helps prevent getting lost in mental patterns and strengthens your ability to disengage from unhelpful narratives.

4. Implement Behavioral Activation

When experiencing depression, use behavioral activation by noticing the connection between your activities and how you feel, identifying ‘behavioral antidepressants’ that bring accomplishment, connection, or enjoyment. Systematically schedule these activities into your daily routine with support, starting feasibly to avoid overwhelming yourself.

5. Create Personal Antidepressant List

Identify and list activities that personally bring you a sense of accomplishment, connection with others, or enjoyment, such as being in nature, exercise, cooking, spending time with loved ones, reading, or meaningful work. This personalized list serves as a resource for behavioral activation to counter depression.

6. Engage with the World Actively

During acute episodes of depression, prioritize skills that focus on action and engaging with the world to counter the powerful tendency to avoid and withdraw. This helps to reconnect people with sources of enjoyment, reward, and relationships in their lives.

7. Engage to Counter Self-Focus

Recognize that depression often involves self-focused rumination, and actively engage in activities that draw you out of your own head and into the world around you. Such engagement is critical for happiness and countering negative self-involvement.

8. Persist Despite Herculean Effort

Understand that engaging in beneficial activities like exercise or social interaction during depression can feel like a Herculean effort due to the strong pull towards withdrawal and isolation. Acknowledge that these simple, powerful, and essential actions are worth the difficulty, even when every fiber of your being pulls away.

9. Practice Loving Kindness Meditation

Dedicate specific times (e.g., five, ten, twenty minutes) on a regular basis to formal loving kindness practices, repeating phrases like ‘May I be well’ or ‘May I be filled with loving kindness.’ This builds a valuable resource for navigating challenging moments with self-kindness and compassion for others.

10. Intentionally Direct Attention

Cultivate the capacity to intentionally direct your attention, which is one of the two specific skills trained in mindfulness-based programs for mental health. This skill helps you to engage with difficulties more effectively and strengthens your focus.

11. Set Daily Intentions

Utilize the powerful force of intention by engaging in simple, brief practices like clarifying and setting an intention for the day. This can help guide your mindset and actions, providing a clear focus for how you wish to approach your day.

12. Brief Kindness for Challenges

In challenging moments, such as before public speaking, take a brief pause (e.g., 30 seconds) to notice what’s present in your experience and respond with self-kindness, kindness for others, and an intention to be of benefit. This integrates self-compassion into daily life without carving out additional time.

13. Practice Mindful Eating

Bring qualities of awareness and kindness to the act of eating, which is something done multiple times a day, as a foundational practice in developing mindfulness skills. This integrates practice into existing daily routines without requiring extra planning or scheduling.

14. Apply Teachings to Self

Remember that you are ‘one of the one’ when considering the impact of practices like kindness and gentleness, ensuring you apply these principles deeply and authentically to your own life. This personal application is crucial for genuine benefit before extending these practices outwards.

15. Notice Sneaky Value Judgments

Pay attention to how value judgments and the tendency to judge or blame can subtly influence your approach to practice and learning, especially when linking your essential self-worth to how you perform. This awareness helps prevent self-criticism from festering and undermining your progress.

16. Seek Community in Practice

Actively seek out learning environments that foster a sense of community when engaging in mindfulness and self-compassion practices, especially for depression and anxiety. This helps counter the isolation, stigma, guilt, and shame often associated with these mental health challenges.

17. Practice Compassion Meditation

Engage in compassion meditation as a protective practice, especially when exposed to suffering through media or daily life, to foster connection and provide tools for responding to and taking action in the face of adversity. This helps prevent desensitization or withdrawal when confronted with others’ suffering.

18. Enroll in Structured Mindfulness Programs

For those with a history of depression and lingering symptoms but not in an acute episode, consider enrolling in structured programs like Mindful Mood Balance or Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT). These programs offer a systematic, scaffolded learning arc integrating mindfulness with cognitive and behavioral therapy strategies to prevent depression relapse.

19. Understand Antidepressant Efficacy

Be aware that antidepressant medication shows significant benefit over placebo primarily for the most severe cases of depression, and its benefits typically persist only as long as the medication is taken. This information is crucial for making informed decisions with a healthcare provider, contrasting with the enduring benefits seen in mindfulness-based programs.

20. Use Light Therapy for Seasonal Mood

For individuals whose experience of depression is directly influenced by seasonal shifts, using light boxes or other methods to directly address circadian rhythms can be extremely helpful in remediating mood impacts. This approach targets the biological rhythms disrupted by changes in light access.

You have a very important role. And with that important role, you also have more responsibility. And then he talked about the importance of these practices and the benefit of mental training and one's inner state. And then he said, from one person to 10 people, to a hundred people, to a thousand people, to a hundred thousand people, that is a way to change humanity's way of life.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama (as quoted by Sona Dimidjian)

We can't forget that we are also one of the one.

Sona Dimidjian

The gravitational force towards withdrawing and isolating and avoiding is so powerful.

Sona Dimidjian

It's simple and it's powerful and it's essential and it can be really hard.

Sona Dimidjian

Behavioral Activation for Acute Depression

Sona Dimidjian
  1. Notice the connections between what you do and how you feel, paying attention to daily activities and their emotional impact.
  2. Identify activities that bring a sense of accomplishment, connection with others, or enjoyment (your 'behavioral antidepressant' list).
  3. With support, systematically structure and schedule these activities into your daily routine.
  4. Start with feasible steps to avoid overwhelming yourself, gradually increasing engagement.

Mindful Mood Balance Program Learning Arc

Sona Dimidjian
  1. Begin with practices to strengthen focused attention, often rooted in body sensations and more neutral experiences (e.g., mindful eating).
  2. Progress systematically over time to address more difficult and painful thoughts, emotions, and situations that are likely to trigger depression.
  3. Integrate learning through doing, starting with guided practices and reflecting on personal experience.
  4. Access experiences of others through videos to build a sense of community and shared learning.
15 minutes, 3 times a week
Average practice time for women in an 8-week mindfulness program during pregnancy Reported by participants in a study on mindfulness for women during pregnancy and postpartum.
Up to 6 months postpartum
Duration of protection from depression return after an 8-week mindfulness program Observed in a study with women during pregnancy.
460 adults
Number of adults in a study on the Mindful Mood Balance program Participants had histories of depression but were not in a current episode, with residual symptoms.
An entire year
Duration of benefit persistence for Mindful Mood Balance program Observed after completing the 8-session program over 12 weeks for adults with histories of depression.
10%
Percentage of people in Mindful Mood Balance program reporting high suicidal ideation at 12 weeks Compared to almost a quarter of people in the usual care group, indicating significant benefits.
2010
Year of publication for a meta-analysis on antidepressant medication vs. placebo Study found significant difference only among the most severe category of depression.