The Science of Handling Uncertainty | Maya Shankar

Jun 20, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Maya Shankar, former Senior Advisor in the Obama White House and host of "A Slight Change of Plans," discusses why humans struggle with uncertainty and change, offering strategies to cultivate a more malleable sense of self and navigate life's inevitable shifts.

At a Glance
20 Insights
59m 30s Duration
14 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Maya Shankar's Origin Story and Path to Behavioral Science

Applying Behavioral Science in Government: The Power of Nudges

Transition to the Science of Change: Personal Inspiration

Navigating Personal Loss and Sharing the Experience

Why Humans React Negatively to Uncertainty and Change

Cultivating a More Malleable Sense of Self

Understanding Cognitive Closure and its Impact on Resilience

Humans as Poor Cognitive Forecasters of Change

The Importance of Small, Reliable Daily Rituals

Seeking Awe-Inspiring Experiences for Perspective

Effective Ways to Process Problems and Give Advice

Loosening Control and Finding Meaning in Narratives

Techniques for Motivating Desired Behavior Change

Strategies for Sustaining Motivation and Goal Achievement

Identity Foreclosure

This phenomenon describes when humans commit to a specific identity and fail to maintain an exploratory mindset. It contributes to the pain and disorientation experienced during change, as losing an identity can feel like losing a part of oneself.

Cognitive Closure

This refers to the human desire for environments with little ambiguity and perfect information about the present and future. People with less need for cognitive closure, who are more open to uncertainty, tend to be more resilient in the face of change.

Cognitive Forecasters

Humans are generally poor cognitive forecasters, meaning they are bad at predicting what will make them happy or unhappy, and how big changes in their lives will truly affect them. We often use overly simplistic models, failing to account for complex spillover effects.

Empathy Gaps

This refers to the disconnect between our present self and our future self, particularly when setting goals. We tend to lack empathy for our future self's physiological or psychological state, leading to unrealistic goal setting.

Middle Problem

A phenomenon where motivation is high at the beginning and end of a pursuit, but drops significantly in the middle. Strategies like shortening the 'middle' by breaking down large goals into smaller ones can help maintain motivation.

Temptation Bundling

A motivation technique that involves pairing an unpleasant activity with an activity that is intrinsically and immediately rewarding. By denying oneself the pleasure of the rewarding activity unless the unpleasant one is also being done, it makes the harder task more appealing.

Fresh Starts

These are moments that feel new and like a reset (e.g., a birthday, moving, first day of a week/month). Capitalizing on fresh starts makes it easier to integrate new habits, as the mind is more open to new behaviors during transitions.

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What does a behavioral scientist do in the world?

Behavioral scientists typically study how the mind works, how we make decisions, and how we develop attitudes and beliefs. In applied roles, they use insights from human behavior to design programs and policies that 'nudge' people towards positive outcomes, like improving government services or encouraging healthy choices.

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Why do humans react so negatively to uncertainty and change?

Humans dislike uncertainty because they prefer certainty, even if it's about a negative outcome. Change also often involves a loss of identity, which can be destabilizing and painful as people attach themselves to specific identities for security.

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How can one cultivate a more malleable sense of self?

One way is to identify yourself as someone who excels or thrives during times of uncertainty, reframing how you approach change. Another is to attach your identity to the underlying features or motivators of a pursuit (e.g., human connection, self-growth) rather than the specific pursuit itself, allowing for adaptation if circumstances change.

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Are humans good at predicting how changes will affect them?

No, humans are generally poor cognitive forecasters. They tend to have overly simplistic models of how big changes will affect them, often considering the change in isolation and failing to predict the complex spillover effects into other areas of life, which can be both positive and negative.

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Why are small, reliable daily rituals important during times of change?

Daily rituals provide a sense of control and stability when the world around you feels uncertain. They can help center you and subconsciously convince your brain that some things remain normal, offering a soothing anchor amidst significant life changes.

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How do awe-inspiring experiences help us navigate change?

Feelings of awe and beauty allow us to distance ourselves from our own egos and individual identities, making us feel that the world is bigger than our personal anxieties. This healthy distance provides perspective, contextualizes our place in the universe, and can be healing.

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Is venting about problems an effective way to deal with them?

Venting can feel emotionally good, but it's often not the most effective approach. The person you confide in may instinctively commiserate, which can prolong negative feelings. Sometimes, the best approach is for them to offer cognitive reframing strategies to help you see the problem through a different, more productive lens.

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What is a good strategy for motivating desired behavior change?

One effective strategy is to give advice to someone else who is trying to achieve a similar goal. This prompts you to recall successful past behaviors or form specific future action plans, thereby motivating yourself.

1. Cultivate Malleable Self-Identity

Develop a flexible self-identity not rigidly attached to specific roles or pursuits, allowing for greater adaptability when circumstances inevitably change.

2. Anchor Identity to Core Motivators

Instead of specific pursuits, attach your identity to the underlying features that truly light you up (e.g., human connection, impact) so you can find these traits in other activities if circumstances shift.

3. Foster an Open Mind

Cultivate a mindset that is open to all the nuanced ways a change might affect you and others, rather than categorizing it simply as ‘good’ or ‘bad,’ which builds resilience.

4. Resist Cognitive Closure

Actively resist the human desire for perfect information and certainty, especially when it’s not available, to become more resilient and comfortable with ambiguity during times of change.

5. Identify as Uncertainty-Thriver

Consciously reframe your self-identity as someone who excels or thrives during uncertainty and is challenge-oriented, which helps in navigating unexpected changes.

6. Humble Change Forecasting

Recognize that humans are poor forecasters of how big changes will truly affect them, and approach transitions with humility, expecting outcomes to be more complex than initially predicted.

7. Audit Self During Change

Regularly assess how a significant change is impacting you in unexpected ways, both positive and negative, to gain a more nuanced and accurate understanding of its effects.

8. Leverage Natural Sense-Making

Understand that your mind is naturally wired to create narratives and find meaning in experiences, which can serve as an ally in processing change and hardship, even if the conclusions aren’t always positive.

9. Third-Person Problem Perspective

When facing problems, distance yourself by imagining you are giving advice to a friend, adopting a third-person perspective to see issues more clearly, objectively, and avoid emotional entrapment.

10. Selective Venting Strategy

Choose carefully who you vent to, ensuring they understand that sometimes you need cognitive reframing strategies and perspective, not just commiseration, to move towards a more productive state.

11. Establish Daily Rituals

Create simple, consistent daily rituals that are easy to perform, as they provide a sense of control and stability when the world around you feels uncertain or overwhelming.

12. Regular Awe Experiences

Actively seek out experiences of awe and beauty, whether in nature or man-made, to gain perspective, distance yourself from ego and anxieties, and feel a healthy sense of smallness in the universe.

13. Capitalize on Fresh Starts

Use natural transition points like birthdays, new homes, or the start of a week to integrate new habits, as the mind is more open to new behaviors during these ‘reset moments.’

14. Self-Define Goals

Take ownership over your goals by defining your own targets, as this increases motivation and makes you more likely to achieve them compared to being given goals by others.

15. Choose Goal Options

If goals are externally imposed, seek or request a set of options from which to choose, as this fosters a sense of ownership and increases motivation.

16. Set Goals in Similar State

Bridge empathy gaps between your present and future self by setting goals when you are in a psychological and physiological state similar to when you’ll be working towards them, to ensure realistic and achievable targets.

17. Reward Quality Over Time

When rewarding yourself for work or progress, focus on metrics that reflect quality or completion rather than just time spent, to avoid ‘running out the clock’ and ensure genuine effort.

18. Shorten Goal Middles

Be mindful of the ‘middle problem’ where motivation drops; structure goals or tasks to have shorter or non-existent middles (e.g., break annual goals into monthly/weekly mini-goals) to maintain consistent motivation.

19. Give Advice to Self-Motivate

To motivate yourself, give advice to others who are pursuing similar goals, as this process helps you recall successful past behaviors and form specific action plans for your own future.

20. Practice Temptation Bundling

Pair an activity you find unpleasant (e.g., working out, folding laundry) with one you find immediately rewarding (e.g., listening to favorite music/podcast), reserving the reward only for the unpleasant activity, to make the harder task more appealing.

We would rather be certain that a bad thing is going to happen than have to manage the feelings of uncertainty that accompany more of the unexpected.

Maya Shankar

I expected to grieve the loss of the violin. I did not expect to grieve the loss of myself.

Maya Shankar

On any given day, I feel like my mind is more concerned that I've lost my six-pack than it is that I might die.

Scott (Maya's guest)

We're really bad at predicting what things will make us happy or unhappy in the future. And I think the exact same thing is true when it comes to change.

Maya Shankar

We are natural-born storytellers at our core. And so what we find is that no matter what happens in our lives, most people try at least to build narratives around their stories and to try to find meaning in the good and the bad things that have happened to them.

Maya Shankar
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Increase in children eating lunch at school due to policy change Result of automatically enrolling eligible low-income children into the national school lunch program (opt-out vs. opt-in).
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Age Maya Shankar had a hand injury that ended her violin career At the time, she was studying at Juilliard and had been asked to be Itzhak Perlman's student.
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Age of Scott when he received a stage four bone cancer diagnosis Scott had been a 'Mr. Healthy and Mr. Fit' individual prior to the diagnosis.
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Number of chemotherapy administrations Scott underwent Part of his treatment for stage four bone cancer, which also involved multiple surgeries.
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Age of a son lost to drug overdose The mother of this son found healing through Maya Shankar's podcast episode about her personal loss.