The Surprising Upsides of Self-Deception | Shankar Vedantam

Jun 9, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Shankar Vedantam, host of Hidden Brain and author of 'Useful Delusions,' argues that self-deception, often seen negatively, can have significant upsides for success, well-being, and empathy. He explores how our brains filter reality and the adaptive role of self-deception in personal relationships and societal challenges.

At a Glance
15 Insights
1h 10m Duration
16 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Self-Deception and Its Upsides

The Church of Love Con: A Starting Point for Useful Delusions

Evolutionary Basis for Self-Deception

Surprising Upsides of Self-Deception in Daily Life

Self-Deception in Parenting and Intimate Relationships

The Double-Edged Sword of Self-Deception: Harmful Examples

Self-Deception and Our Mortality

Distinguishing Between Useful and Harmful Delusions

Applying Empathy to Dangerous Delusions like Vaccine Hesitancy

Limits of Empathy and Psychological Interventions for Mass Delusions

Understanding Naive Realism

Self-Deception as a Form of Privilege

Depression: Delusional Pessimism or Clear-Eyed Reality?

The Buddhist Perspective on Delusion and the Self

The Brain as a Machine of Self-Deception

Conclusion and Book/Podcast Plugs

Useful Delusions

These are forms of self-deception that, despite not being entirely true, can play a vital role in our success, well-being, and ability to maintain relationships and societal structures. They help us filter reality, maintain optimism, and cope with difficult truths like mortality.

Naive Realism

This psychological principle describes our inherent tendency to believe that the world as we perceive it is the objective reality, and therefore, everyone else should see it the same way. It leads us to judge others who hold different views as mistaken or irrational, hindering empathy.

Delusional Optimism

This concept suggests that a certain degree of unrealistic positive thinking or hopefulness might be a component of mental health. It allows individuals to function efficiently, pursue goals, and maintain relationships, even when a completely accurate view of reality might be dispiriting or paralyzing.

Ship of Theseus

A philosophical thought experiment used as a metaphor to question the nature of identity and self. It illustrates how components of an entity can be entirely replaced over time, prompting the question of whether it remains the 'same' entity, which Shankar relates to the changing nature of our physical and psychological selves.

Self as Illusion

A concept, particularly prominent in Buddhist philosophy, suggesting that the continuous, unchanging 'self' we perceive is not a fundamental reality but rather a construct of the mind. This illusion, while functional for daily life, can be a source of greed, hatred, and suffering.

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How did Shankar Vedantam begin exploring the idea that self-deception could be beneficial?

Shankar, a self-proclaimed rational person, was initially skeptical but began exploring the idea after investigating a con called the Church of Love, where victims paradoxically defended the con man because the 'delusion' had provided them with valuable emotional support and meaning.

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What are some surprising upsides of self-deception?

Self-deception helps our brains filter vast amounts of sensory information efficiently, allows for positive illusions about loved ones (leading to happier, more stable relationships), and enables parents to endure the challenges of raising children by believing their own child is uniquely special.

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How does self-deception help us cope with mortality?

Humans are aware of their mortality, but if we constantly dwelled on impending death, it would be paralyzing. Self-deceptions and daily distractions help us remain focused, optimistic, and hopeful, allowing us to lead functional lives.

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How can one distinguish between useful and harmful delusions?

Shankar suggests judging delusions by their outcomes: 'good delusions' lead to kindness, empathy, and compassion, while 'dangerous delusions' cause exploitation, harm, or lead people astray. However, it's difficult for an individual to know in the moment if their own delusion is useful or not.

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How should one approach someone with dangerous delusions, such as vaccine hesitancy?

Instead of presenting facts, one should start with empathy and compassion, asking about their fears and concerns. The goal is to understand the underlying psychological purpose the delusion serves for them and find alternative ways to meet that psychological need.

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What is the meaning of 'naive realism'?

Naive realism is the belief that our perception of the world is the objective reality, and everyone else should see it the same way. This causes us to judge those with different perspectives as wrong or irrational, hindering empathy.

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How can self-deception be considered a form of privilege?

Foregoing self-deception might be a privilege because people whose lives are going well (good health, job, relationships) may not need to rely on self-deceptions. However, in moments of crisis or vulnerability, anyone can quickly turn to fantastical beliefs for comfort and coping.

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Is depression a clear view of reality or a delusional state?

Research suggests that depressed individuals often see the world quite clearly, sometimes more accurately than 'mentally healthy' people. This implies that being mentally healthy might involve a functional, somewhat delusional sense of optimism rather than a perfectly accurate view of reality.

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Does the Buddhist concept of the 'self as an illusion' make sense from a scientific perspective?

Shankar acknowledges that the brain, shaped by evolution, invents the idea of a 'self' because it is functional for survival and interaction. While he finds the idea of the self as an illusion intellectually intriguing, he approaches challenging this deeply ingrained sense of self with caution, noting its evolutionary purpose.

1. Approach Disagreements with Empathy

When encountering someone with outlandish views, begin with empathy, compassion, and questions to understand the psychological purpose of their belief, rather than arguing with facts. This is because delusions often serve a functional psychological purpose, and addressing this underlying need is more effective than simply presenting facts.

2. Address Delusions’ Psychological Purpose

To effectively change someone’s dangerous delusion, go beyond presenting facts and instead inquire about the underlying psychological purpose the delusion serves for them. Then, explore alternative ways to meet that psychological need, as this approach is more effective than just presenting facts.

3. Mindfully Manage Self-Deceptions

Observe your self-deceptions and consciously decide whether to embrace them if they produce good outcomes, or challenge them if they cause harm. This allows for intentional management of your mental landscape, leveraging beneficial delusions while combating harmful ones.

4. Validate Fears in Difficult Talks

When discussing sensitive topics, acknowledge and validate the other person’s fears, explaining that they often stem from positive intentions like love for family. This approach avoids belittling their concerns, dials down the emotional temperature, and fosters a more empathetic conversation, which is more effective than just presenting data.

5. Cultivate Positive Relationship Illusions

Believe positive things about your romantic partner, such as them being very handsome or kind, even if those things are not completely true. This self-deception can lead to a happier and more stable relationship.

6. Embrace Parental Delusions

Allow yourself to believe your child is special and miraculous, even if it’s a delusion. This “useful delusion” helps parents undertake great difficulties to protect and raise their children securely, making them better parents.

7. Disidentify from Emotions

Regularly remind yourself that you are not your emotions; rather, emotions are transient phenomena happening to you, not defining who you are. This practice helps you stand apart from your experiences, fostering patience and allowing you to see the truth in those emotions without being consumed by them.

8. Observe as Experiencer and Observer

Practice observing your experiences and emotions, rather than solely identifying as the experiencer, ideally being both the experiencer and the observer simultaneously. This allows for a helpful distance from what’s happening, similar to psychotherapy, enabling you to listen back to yourself and gain perspective.

9. Reframe Emotional Language

When experiencing strong emotions or desires, change your internal framing from “I am angry” to “there is anger” or “there is desire.” This linguistic shift helps you perceive emotions as transient phenomena separate from your core self, leading to liberation from ego-driven greed and hatred.

10. Break Down Challenges “One Day”

When facing monumental challenges or despair, focus on surviving just one day at a time, creating a new 24-hour deadline each day. This breaks down overwhelming difficulties into bite-sized, manageable portions, making it easier to navigate and endure.

11. Briefly Contemplate Mortality

Occasionally allow a fleeting thought about your own mortality or that a current interaction might be the last. This can make you more attentive, mindful, compassionate, and forgiving in the present moment, vivifying it.

12. Judge Delusions by Outcomes

Assess whether a self-deception leads to kinder, better, more empathetic, or compassionate behavior (useful) versus exploitation, harm, or leading astray (dangerous). This allows you to discern between “good” and “dangerous” delusions, as the utility is determined by the consequences.

13. Use Social Norms for Influence

To encourage widespread adoption of a behavior, communicate that most people are already engaging in it and introduce a sense of scarcity for the desired action. This leverages human tendencies to follow norms and respond to perceived scarcity, promoting functional outcomes.

14. Question Naive Realism

Recognize that your view of the world is not necessarily the only or correct way, and that others may see things differently. This helps overcome naive realism, which often prevents empathy and compassion, allowing for a more open understanding of diverse perspectives.

15. Recognize Delusion as Privilege

Acknowledge that turning to self-deception can be a response to vulnerability and difficult life circumstances, and that the ability to forgo self-deception might be a form of privilege. This fosters greater compassion and less judgment towards others who rely on delusions to cope with their challenges.

Self-deception can indeed do great harm to us, but it turns out paradoxically that it can sometimes do great good for us.

Shankar Vedantam

If we were to perform a mere cost-benefit analysis about the value of our children, some of us might conclude that our children are not quite worth it, that, in fact, our children are more curse than blessing.

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We see death and dying around us all the time. But all of us in our heart of hearts believe that it's not going to come for us or that we will not be the next person to die.

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When the deceptions and self-deceptions cause us to exploit one another, to harm one another, to lead one another astray, to take advantage of one another, I think those would be ways in which I would call them dangerous delusions.

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Delusions, when they occur, are often playing a psychologically functional purpose. They might be wrong. They might be inaccurate. They might even be harmful. But they're playing some kind of role that soothes or answers a psychological question that we're experiencing.

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Not practicing self-deception, foregoing self-deception, ironically might be a form of privilege.

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Give me chastity, O Lord, only not yet.

Shankar Vedantam (attributing to St. Augustine)

To claim anger as yours is a misappropriation of public property.

Dan Harris (attributing to a great monk)
about a billion
Bits of information the human eye takes in per moment According to neuroscientist Donald Hoffman
about a million
Bits of information transmitted to the brain from the eye Filtered from the initial billion bits
about 40
Bits of information the brain actually processes from the eye Filtered from the million bits transmitted to the brain
40 to 60 percent
Statistical odds of getting divorced Few people acknowledge this on their wedding day
30 to 40 percent
Percentage of the U.S. population hesitant to get vaccinated against COVID Considered a dangerous and mistaken idea by Shankar