Conscious Processes and Intelligence (with Richard Nisbett)

Jun 19, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Spencer Greenberg speaks with Richard Nisbett about the unconscious mind's role in judgment, the impact of environment and genetics on intelligence, the influence of interviews on hiring, and the appropriate use of cost-benefit analysis, including the sunk cost fallacy.

At a Glance
15 Insights
1h 15m Duration
13 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

The Role of the Unconscious Mind in Cognitive Processes

Experiments Demonstrating Lack of Conscious Access

Leveraging the Unconscious Mind for Better Judgment and Creativity

The Interplay Between Conscious and Unconscious Thinking

Revisiting the Heritability of Intelligence and Environmental Factors

Impact of Socioeconomic Status and Race on IQ

Strategies for Increasing Population Intelligence: Pre-Kindergarten Programs

The Law of Large Numbers and Its Application to Everyday Judgments

The Ineffectiveness of Job Interviews for Predicting Performance

Exceptions Where Interviews Can Be Useful

Underusing and Overusing Cost-Benefit Analysis

Understanding and Avoiding the Sunk Cost Fallacy

When Not to Apply Cost-Benefit Analysis: The Case of Marriage

Lack of Access to Cognitive Processes

People are often oblivious to the actual processes occurring in their minds that lead to their judgments, decisions, and behaviors. Instead, they fabricate plausible explanations based on what they *can* consciously recall or what is salient, which may not be accurate.

Misattribution of Arousal

This phenomenon occurs when individuals attribute their physiological arousal (e.g., increased heart rate, faster breathing) to an incorrect source, such as a placebo pill, rather than the true cause (e.g., electric shock or insomnia symptoms). This misattribution can alter their emotional experience or behavior.

Heritability of IQ

The proportion of variation in IQ within a population that is attributable to genetic differences. Its calculation is heavily influenced by environmental variability; in highly similar environments (like upper-middle-class families), heritability appears high, but in highly variable environments (like lower socioeconomic strata), environmental factors dominate.

Law of Large Numbers (in judgment)

This principle states that the more evidence one has, the more accurate their judgment or problem solution will be. However, the importance of the amount of evidence is a function of the variability of the thing being judged; highly variable phenomena require more evidence than stable ones.

Sunk Cost Fallacy

The irrational tendency to continue an endeavor or investment because of resources (time, money, effort) already spent, rather than basing the decision solely on future costs and benefits. These past costs are unrecoverable and should not influence future decisions.

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How much of what goes on in people's heads are they oblivious to?

A significant amount of our cognitive processes, including those influencing important behaviors and judgments, occur unconsciously. People are often unaware of the true reasons for their actions and are adept at fabricating plausible, but often inaccurate, explanations.

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How can one use their unconscious mind to their advantage?

The unconscious mind can perform tasks the conscious mind struggles with, such as making better aesthetic or preference judgments when not overthinking, and facilitating creative breakthroughs. Allowing the unconscious mind to 'work for free' by starting tasks early or sleeping on problems can lead to insights.

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What is the relationship between genetics, environment, and intelligence?

While genes contribute to IQ, the impact of environment is hugely important, especially early in life. The heritability of IQ varies significantly with socioeconomic status; it is much higher in upper-middle-class families (0.7-0.8) where environments are similar, and much lower in lower socioeconomic strata (0.1-0.2) where environmental variability is high.

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How does socioeconomic status and race affect IQ differences?

Lower socioeconomic status (SES) and racial disparities, particularly for Black individuals in the US, correlate with environmental disadvantages like lead poisoning, poor healthcare, and chaotic home/school environments, which negatively impact IQ. These environmental factors, not genetics, largely explain observed IQ differences between racial groups.

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How can the human population be made smarter?

High-quality pre-kindergarten programs, designed to foster intellectual, social, and physical development, have been shown to have massive, long-term positive effects on IQ (5-7 points), high school graduation rates, college attendance, and reduced welfare dependence, with significant financial returns on investment.

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Why are traditional job interviews often ineffective for hiring?

Typical 30-minute 'get acquainted' interviews are poor predictors of job or academic performance, often correlating at 0.10 or less. Interviewers tend to overemphasize subjective impressions, likeability, or superficial social cues, which can swamp more valuable evidence from application folders (e.g., GPA, recommendations, accomplishments) that predict performance at 0.4-0.5.

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When should cost-benefit analysis be applied, and when should it be avoided?

Cost-benefit analysis is crucial for business and policy decisions, but it should also be applied in daily life, especially to avoid the sunk cost fallacy. However, it should not be strictly applied to complex human relationships like marriage, where commitment through 'periods of unlove' can be beneficial and lead to future improvement.

1. Leverage Unconscious Mind for Problem Solving

Start working on complex problems or papers early (e.g., first day of class) to allow your unconscious mind to process information and generate ideas. If stuck on a problem, take a break or sleep on it, as the unconscious mind can continue working and provide solutions.

2. Invest in High-Quality Pre-Kindergarten

Support or enroll children in high-quality pre-kindergarten programs, as they lead to massive long-term benefits in IQ, high school graduation, college attendance, and reduced welfare dependence, with significant financial returns for society.

3. Avoid Unstructured Job Interviews

Do not rely on traditional 30-minute ‘get acquainted’ interviews for hiring, as they are worthless for predicting intellectual or social skills and can lead to biased judgments. Instead, prioritize objective evidence from application folders (GPA, recommendations, accomplishments) which are much better predictors.

4. Apply Explicit Cost-Benefit Analysis

Consciously and explicitly weigh all costs (economic, educational, emotional) against the benefits when making daily life decisions and policy choices, ensuring all factors are considered rather than just obvious benefits.

5. Beware of Sunk Cost Fallacy

Do not continue an activity, project, or relationship solely to justify past investments of time, energy, or money. Recognize that these ‘sunk costs’ are already gone and cannot be recovered by continuing, allowing you to make decisions based on future prospects.

6. Alternate Conscious and Unconscious Processing

For complex problems, alternate between letting your subconscious mull on an idea and then consciously checking, refining, and double-checking that intuition. This interplay between the two modes of thought is often the most powerful approach.

7. Engage in ‘Serve and Return’ Conversations

Actively engage in back-and-forth conversations with children, responding to their questions and expanding on topics. This interactive context is a powerful mechanism for vocabulary expansion and intellectual growth.

8. Understand Variability of Evidence

Recognize that the amount of evidence needed for an accurate judgment depends on the variability of the subject. For highly variable things (like weather or volcano activity), a small sample of evidence is insufficient to draw strong conclusions.

9. Curate Information Sources (Books)

Prioritize reading books that have been highly recommended by trusted individuals who have actually read them. This strategy helps avoid wasting time on potentially disliked books given the vast number of available options.

10. Use Sunk Costs for Positive Habits

Leverage the sunk cost principle to your advantage for forming positive habits, such as pre-paying for a gym membership or services. Knowing you’ve already invested money can motivate you to follow through, even if the payment is technically a sunk cost.

11. Recognize Unconscious Influence

Be aware that a significant portion of your behavior and decisions are influenced by unconscious processes, and you often fabricate explanations for them after the fact. This awareness can help you be more cautious about your own stated reasons.

12. Go with Your Gut for Aesthetic Judgments

For aesthetic or preference judgments, sometimes pure, unobserved processes (going with your gut) lead to more accurate choices than over-analyzing and verbally articulating features, as verbalization can swamp the true preference.

13. Reduce Stress in Children’s Environments

Minimize stress in children’s lives and environments, as stress has a significant negative impact on IQ and educational performance. Creating a stable and less chaotic environment supports intellectual development.

14. Teach Structured Thinking to Children

Engage children in activities that involve structured thinking, such as following recipes or explaining the rules of board games explicitly. These practices expose them to more words and systematic reasoning.

15. Consider Commitment in Relationships

When evaluating long-term relationships like marriage, consider the role of commitment mechanisms (e.g., marriage vows) that help navigate ‘periods of unlove.’ Do not solely apply a short-term cost-benefit analysis, especially when children are involved, as relationships can improve over time.

We're amazingly good at fabricating explanations for things. I mean, not just why did I take so much shock or why did I get to sleep quicker, but absolutely any event at all.

Richard Nisbett

The only way you can know what's going on is to make sure that the environments are maximally different.

Richard Nisbett

The 30-minute interview is worthless for predicting anything anybody ever tried to predict about them that involves intellectual matters or social skills or whatever. It literally predicts nothing.

Richard Nisbett

People's model of what goes on in the interview is hopelessly wrong. They don't regard it as 30 minutes worth of evidence about this and that. They think of the interview as being like a hologram of the person.

Danny Kahneman (quoted by Richard Nisbett)

Marriage is a way to get over the periods of unlove.

Richard Nisbett

Effective Interviewing for Military Officer Training

Danny Kahneman (described by Richard Nisbett)
  1. Specify questions in advance.
  2. Interviewer must ask questions exactly as stated.
  3. Interviewer must ask questions in the specified order.
0.8
Correlation between IQs of identical twins reared apart (when environments are highly similar) This figure is often cited as the heritability of IQ, but it overestimates genetic influence if environments are not maximally different.
0.4 to 0.5
Correlation between IQs of identical twins reared apart (when environments are quite different) A more accurate estimate of genetic influence when environmental variability is accounted for.
12 points
Average IQ point increase for a child adopted into a middle-class family Compared to remaining in the family of origin or an orphanage.
16 points
Average IQ point increase for a child adopted into an upper-middle-class family Demonstrates the significant impact of a rich early environment.
0.7 to 0.8
Heritability of IQ for kids raised in upper-middle-class families In environments with low variability, genetic factors appear to drive most of the IQ differences.
0.1 to 0.2
Heritability of IQ for kids raised in lower socioeconomic strata In environments with high variability, environmental factors account for most of the IQ differences.
15 points
IQ difference between Black and White populations (historically) This difference has decreased over time due to improving conditions.
9 points or less
Current IQ difference between Black and White populations And is continuing to decrease.
13 points
IQ point increase for Black or mixed-race children raised in white families compared to Black families Observed in a study controlling for genetic background, highlighting environmental impact.
30 million
Number of words heard by a middle-class child by age three Compared to working-class (20 million) and Black underclass (10 million) children.
5 to 7 points
IQ point effects of the best pre-kindergarten programs Some effects remained as late as adolescence.
$8 to $9
Return on investment for pre-kindergarten programs For every dollar spent, considering gains to the individual, community, and treasury.
0.10 or less
Correlation between interview grade and job/academic performance For a typical 30-minute 'get acquainted' interview.
0.4 to 0.5
Correlation between application folder grade and job/academic performance Folders include GPA, letters of recommendation, and specific accomplishments.