Creating a new city from scratch (with Erick Brimen)

Feb 5, 2025 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Spencer Greenberg speaks with Eric Bremen about Prospera, a new city in Honduras designed to catalyze prosperity through innovative governance models. They discuss how private sector involvement and a competitive regulatory environment can attract investment and improve services.

At a Glance
15 Insights
1h 23m Duration
23 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to New Cities and Special Economic Zones (ZEDES)

Advantages of Greenfield City Development and Innovative Governance

Operating a City with a Private Company and Profit Motive

Benefits of Profit-Maximizing Governance for Citizens and Host Countries

The Role of 'Exit' and Competition in Governance Services

Prospera's Unique Opt-Out Feature for Residents

How Prospera Competes: Degrees of Freedom and Ease of Doing Business

Prescriptive vs. Objective Regulation

Prospera's Focus on Commercial Activity, Not Social Standards

Comparing Prospera to Successful SEZs like Dubai and Hong Kong

Business Model for Investors: Real Estate and Governance as a Service

Prospera's Tax Structure and Revenue Sharing with Honduras

Applicability of Honduran Laws within Prospera

Current State of Prospera: Physical Development and Population

Types of Companies and Residents Attracted to Prospera

Addressing Safety Concerns for Novel Medical Technologies in Prospera

Decentralized Enforcement and Liability in Prospera

Political Pushback and Legal Challenges Against ZEDES in Honduras

Current Legal Status and International Arbitration

Public Sentiment Towards Prospera in Honduras

Addressing Concerns About Land Expropriation

Residency Requirements and Restrictions in Prospera

Vision for the Future: More Competing Jurisdictions and Governance Innovation

ZEDES (Zonas de Empleo y Desarrollo Económico)

ZEDES are a unique form of special economic zone in Honduras that enables a rewrite of legal and regulatory frameworks within their designated territories. This allows for the emergence of new cities with highly competitive governance structures, designed to attract investment and foster innovation.

Greenfield Site Development

This refers to creating a new city on previously undeveloped land, which provides a clean slate. This approach allows for the optimal design of both physical infrastructure and, more importantly, the intangible dimension of governance to maximize productivity and competitiveness.

Governance as a Service

This concept views governmental functions, such as managing public registries, providing security, or operating the judicial system, as services for which citizens pay. When private entities with a profit motive are involved, it can lead to increased efficiency and competitiveness in service delivery.

Exit (in Governance)

In the context of governance, 'exit' is the ability for individuals or businesses to switch their governance service provider without necessarily having to physically relocate. This dynamic introduces powerful competition among governance providers, similar to how businesses compete in a market.

Prescriptive Regulation

This regulatory approach involves bureaucrats dictating precisely how an operation should be carried out, including specific technologies, safety checks, and procedures. While intended to mitigate risk, it can become outdated quickly and hinder innovation by forcing adherence to specific, potentially inefficient, methods.

Objective Regulation

In contrast to prescriptive regulation, objective regulation sets clear standards or outcomes that must be met (e.g., maximum pollutant levels), but allows companies the freedom to innovate on *how* they achieve those standards. This approach fosters greater flexibility and ease of doing business without sacrificing safety or risk mitigation.

Informed Consent (in Prospera Healthcare)

A fundamental standard within Prospera's medical framework, requiring that patients receive full disclosure and provide clear, documented consent for any novel medical treatments. This places a higher level of personal liability on physicians if proper informed consent is not obtained.

Decentralized Enforcement (in Prospera)

This system empowers any resident to initiate legal action, typically through arbitration, against a party that fails to comply with regulatory frameworks, such as instances of fraud or negligence. This allows for proactive enforcement to compel compliance or prevent harmful activities, even before actual harm occurs.

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Why create a new city instead of using existing ones?

Creating a new city on a greenfield site allows for a clean slate to design both physical infrastructure and a more competitive legal and regulatory environment, attracting innovation and investment.

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How does a city operated by a private company differ from traditional cities?

A private company, serving as a general service provider, aligns incentives with economic success and productivity, as its financial upside is directly tied to the jurisdiction's economic activity, unlike traditional public institutions.

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Is profit-maximizing governance good for citizens and the host country?

Yes, because it incentivizes efficiency and high-quality service delivery, leading to better services, more jobs, and a more secure life for citizens, while the host government receives a revenue share and increased foreign direct investment.

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Can people opt out of Prospera's governance even if they live there?

Yes, opting into Prospera's jurisdiction is required, and residents can contractually exit its governance while physically remaining within the area, reverting to the governance of the pre-existing municipality.

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What are the legitimate reasons for governments to regulate businesses?

Regulation is justifiable when it aims to minimize negative externalities upon non-consenting third parties, such as pollution from a factory affecting nearby residents.

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How does Prospera compete with other jurisdictions to attract businesses?

Prospera offers higher degrees of freedom and greater ease of doing business by implementing objective rather than prescriptive regulations, allowing companies to innovate and operate more efficiently while still mitigating risks.

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How do investors in Prospera make money?

Investors profit through two main avenues: real estate appreciation (venture estate) due to improved governance conditions, and from the governance-as-a-service model, where the private operator delivers services at a cost below the revenue collected (subject to a 7.5% GDP cap).

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Are medical treatments offered in Prospera safe if they haven't been approved by traditional regulators like the FDA?

Prospera allows the aggregation of medical treatments, devices, and physicians approved in any OECD country, and for novel technologies, it requires objective safety standards, informed consent from patients, and clear liability, focusing on actual risk mitigation rather than prescriptive hurdles.

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What happens if a medical technology used in Prospera turns out to be dangerous?

Prospera has a decentralized enforcement system where any resident can initiate arbitration against a provider for fraud, negligence, or non-compliance, even preemptively, with substantial liability exposure for providers and a 'loser pays' principle to deter frivolous claims.

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What is the current legal status of ZEDES in Honduras given the government's pushback?

The Honduran government terminated the ZEDE program and a packed Supreme Court recently declared ZEDES unconstitutional retroactively, despite prior rulings. Prospera views this as politically motivated and legally void, pursuing international arbitration against the state for damages.

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Can Prospera take land from private owners?

No, Prospera cannot benefit from land expropriations. While the ZEDE law discusses expropriation, it does so to add additional barriers and restraints on the Honduran government's existing eminent domain powers, and Prospera has proactively renounced accepting expropriated land.

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Can anyone move to Prospera?

Generally, yes, but individuals must acknowledge and consent to Prospera's specific rule set. Permanent residents undergo a KYC (Know Your Customer) check, with disqualifiers including being on criminal lists, international terror watch lists, or Honduran arrest warrants.

1. Design Governance First

When creating a new city on a greenfield site, prioritize designing the intangible dimension of governance before physical infrastructure to enable a more productive and competitive environment. This allows for a regulatory framework that attracts innovation and investment.

2. Enable Jurisdictional Exit

To ensure competitive governance and prevent monopolies, design systems where individuals and businesses can easily switch their governance service provider without physically relocating, creating powerful competitive pressure.

3. Adopt Objective Regulation

Shift from prescriptive regulations (telling companies how to operate) to objective regulations (setting clear standards for outcomes, e.g., pollutant levels) to increase degrees of freedom and ease of doing business without sacrificing safety or preventing harm to non-consenting third parties.

4. Align Governance Incentives

Consider injecting a profit motive into governance services, aligning incentives with attracting and retaining investment, providing high-quality services, and maintaining low operating costs to drive productivity and citizen satisfaction.

5. Optimize Commercial Regulation

To catalyze wealth creation and human prosperity, focus on creating an optimal regulatory environment for commercial activity, while taking a step back from meddling in social or cultural choices.

6. Increase Competing Jurisdictions

Advocate for a significant increase in the number of competing jurisdictions globally, optimally designed to deliver governance as a service with a profit motive, to foster innovation and sustained competitive improvement.

7. Apply Intrapreneurship to Governance

Instead of creating entirely new countries, apply an ‘intrapreneurship’ model where existing nation-states host autonomous, innovative governance zones, benefiting from their successes and pushing the productivity frontier.

8. Utilize Private Governance Partners

Countries can leverage private partners to import and deploy international best practices of good governance, allowing for the creation and operation of successful economic zones without direct government investment or expertise.

9. Improve Governance, Boost Real Estate

Recognize that real estate value is a derivative of the economic activity permitted on it; therefore, better rules and regulations that safely enable high-value activities will substantially increase real estate appreciation.

10. Implement Single Tax Authority

To simplify compliance and minimize friction for businesses and residents, establish a single tax authority for all tax obligations, even if revenue sharing agreements are in place with a host government.

11. Differentiate Laws for Opt-In Zones

When designing new jurisdictions on greenfield sites, it’s easier to create highly differentiated legal constructs because initial inhabitants are not affected, and future residents knowingly and willingly opt into that specific legal structure.

12. Aggregate Global Medical Best Practices

For medical treatments and devices, allow the aggregation of regulatory approvals from multiple OECD countries, enabling access to the best available worldwide technologies and practices without being restricted by a single national framework.

In innovative industries like healthcare, prioritize informed consent and shared liability, ensuring full disclosure to patients and increasing personal liability for providers if these standards are not met.

14. Implement Decentralized Enforcement

Create a system where any resident can initiate legal action (e.g., arbitration) against a party failing to comply with regulatory frameworks, allowing for preemptive and proactive enforcement of standards like no fraud or negligence.

15. Apply “Loser Pays” Principle

Implement a ’loser pays’ principle in legal proceedings, where the party bringing an unjustified or ill-intentioned action is liable for all legal costs and potentially damages, balancing the right to enforce compliance with preventing frivolous claims.

When people think of cities, the first visual that comes to mind is the skyline, but the governance layer is more important.

Erick Brimen

The alternative model of just having a public and politics institution in charge is that their incentives are not aligned with the financial gain and the overall productivity of the jurisdiction. It's more aligned with the political needs of those that are in power from time to time.

Erick Brimen

The main caveat is that the flip side to being or having a profit motive is that you've got to have competition. And in the realm of governance, the minimum standard must be that there is exit.

Erick Brimen

Being physically in the place does not force you to also be a consumer of governance services from the jurisdiction. In order to be within the jurisdiction, you have to opt into it.

Erick Brimen

The objective is to create human prosperity by catalyzing wealth creation and don't meddle with and just kind of take a step back when it comes to a lot of those more social, cultural decisions.

Erick Brimen

The value of real estate is a derivative of the value of the activity that you can carry out upon it and the value of the activity is governed by the rules and regulations that apply.

Erick Brimen

Almost 100% of the companies wouldn't be there were not for Prospera as a legal constructs.

Erick Brimen

The world needs a significantly higher number of competing jurisdictions that are optimally designed to deliver governance as a service and with a profit motive involved.

Erick Brimen
30-40%
Average cost of governance services (as percentage of income/GDP) Includes all taxes and fees, aggregated globally.
7.5%
Prospera's pricing cap for governance services Of the intra-project GDP, reimbursed annually if exceeded.
11%
Dubai's governance capture rate The closest competitor, potentially rising to 15%.
420 acres
Prospera's land size on Roatan Comparable to Monaco's 535 acres.
14 stories
Height of Prospera's first high-rise tower More than double the height of any previous building on Roatan.
1,000 people
Prospera's peak population Varies, this is the current peak.
10 years and $500 million
Estimated cost savings for Mini Circle (gene therapy company) in Prospera Compared to FDA approval process in the US.
70%+
Favorability rating of Prospera among Hondurans With 3-5% adamantly against it due to misinformation.
$10.7 billion
Estimated damages sought in international arbitration against Honduras Calculated by a third party for foregone profits and direct investments over a 50-year contract term.
200
Approximate number of governance service providers (nation-states) globally The entire industry of governance.
80%+
Percentage of governance industry controlled by less than 5% of providers Measured by revenues or number of humans under jurisdiction.
$30-50 trillion
Annual revenue of the global governance industry The biggest industry in the world.