Is evolutionary psychology just a bunch of "just so" stories? (with Geoffrey Miller)

Sep 13, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Spencer Greenberg speaks with psych professor Jeffrey Miller about evolutionary psychology, emphasizing its role in understanding modern behavior and self-improvement. They also discuss applying behavioral science to AI safety, advocating for a pause in advanced AI development due to alignment challenges and diverse human values.

At a Glance
13 Insights
1h 12m Duration
21 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Evolutionary Psychology and its Importance

Reasons for Pushback Against Evolutionary Psychology

Addressing the 'Just-So Story' Criticism in Ev Psych

Refining Evolutionary Hypotheses: Ovulatory Cycle Effects Example

Using Evidence from Non-Human Primates

Measuring Intelligence Across Species

The Role of Cross-Cultural Evidence in Evolutionary Psychology

Behavior as a Complex Interaction of Genetics and Environment

Evolutionary Psychology View on Incest Aversion and Porn

Evolutionary vs. Social Constructivist Views on Emotions

Applying Evolutionary Psychology to Modern Dating

The Challenge of Getting Honest Feedback in Dating

Geoffrey Miller's Pivot to AI Safety Research

The Problem of AI Alignment with Diverse Human Values

The Impossibility of Aligning AI with All Conflicting Values

The Dangers of Misaligned AI and Need for Pausing Development

Intuition Pumps for Understanding AI Existential Risk

Essential Research for Making AI Safe

Naivete of 'I'm in Control' Thinking in AI Development

Analogy of AI Control Problem to Parenting

Distinction Between Narrow AI and Artificial General Intelligence

Evolutionary Psychology

A scientific field that aims to understand human nature by examining the adaptive challenges faced by our ancestors in prehistory. It integrates insights from primate studies, anthropology, and behavior genetics to explain the origins and functions of human motivations, emotions, beliefs, and desires.

Naturalistic Fallacy

The logical error of assuming that because something evolved or is 'natural,' it is inherently good, moral, or ought to be. Evolutionary psychologists explicitly argue against this fallacy, stating that evolution optimizes for survival and reproduction, not moral goodness.

Just-So Stories

A criticism leveled against evolutionary psychology, suggesting it merely invents plausible-sounding, untestable explanations for behaviors after the fact. The field counters this by developing specific, testable hypotheses about adaptations and collecting empirical data to support or refute them.

General Factor of Intelligence (g-factor)

The observation that within a species, individuals who perform well on one cognitive task tend to perform well on others. This suggests an underlying general cognitive ability, and surprisingly, this pattern of positive correlations across diverse cognitive tasks is found in many non-human species, not just humans.

Hot Cognition

A focus in evolutionary psychology on the motivational, emotional, value-driven, and preferential aspects of human thought. This contrasts with 'cold cognition' which emphasizes memory, categorization, and information processing, highlighting what truly drives behavior.

AI Alignment

The critical challenge of designing advanced artificial intelligence systems to ensure their goals, preferences, and behaviors are in accordance with human values. This involves defining what 'human values' entail, which is complicated by their diversity and inherent conflicts.

Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)

A hypothetical type of AI that possesses the ability to understand, learn, and apply intelligence across a wide range of intellectual tasks, performing at a level comparable to or exceeding a human being. It's distinct from 'narrow AI' which specializes in specific tasks.

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What is evolutionary psychology?

It's a field that seeks to understand human nature by examining the survival and reproductive challenges faced by our ancestors in prehistory, integrating insights from other primates, anthropology, and behavior genetics.

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Why do people often resist evolutionary explanations for human psychology?

This resistance is largely political, stemming from concerns about genetic determinism, the naturalistic fallacy (equating 'natural' with 'good'), and the misconception that evolved traits cannot be changed.

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How do evolutionary psychologists avoid 'just-so stories'?

They formulate testable hypotheses about the design features of adaptations, gather empirical data, and are willing to reject or refine hypotheses when data do not support them, similar to other empirical sciences.

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How much can we generalize about human behavior from non-human primates?

While useful for understanding trade-offs, environmental responses, and individual differences in cognitive abilities and personality, caution is needed as humans are the last bipedal hominid, and other great apes don't fully represent our evolutionary path.

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Is universal behavior across cultures strong evidence of evolutionary programming?

It's suggestive evidence but not definitive; a universal behavior could arise from practical reasoning and learning applied to common environmental challenges, rather than a specific innate instinct.

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Does cultural variation imply a trait is not evolutionarily programmed?

Not necessarily; evolutionary biology also explains how behavior changes adaptively in response to different environmental conditions and trade-offs, meaning cultural variations can be highly informative about underlying psychological constants.

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What is the evolutionary psychology view on incest aversion?

There's strong evidence for an evolved aversion to close genetic inbreeding, observed across thousands of species, including plants. However, cultural definitions of incest can vary at the margins (e.g., first-cousin marriage).

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Are emotions primarily shaped by evolution or culture?

Evolutionary psychology suggests emotions like disgust and anger have strong evolved functions (e.g., pathogen avoidance, threat signaling), providing a valuable framework for analysis, even if cultural context influences their expression and specific manifestations.

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How can evolutionary psychology be applied to modern dating?

Understanding which traits the opposite sex finds attractive can help individuals focus on cultivating actionable, improvable traits (e.g., fashion, fitness, humor, conversation skills) rather than unchangeable physical attributes or wealth.

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What is the main challenge in AI alignment with human values?

The core difficulty lies in the immense diversity and inherent conflicts within human values, including religious and political beliefs, making it potentially impossible to align an AI simultaneously with all of them without creating new conflicts or alienating large segments of humanity.

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Why should AI capabilities development be paused?

The rapid acceleration of AI progress, coupled with the profound difficulty of ensuring AI alignment with diverse and often conflicting human values, suggests a need for a moratorium to prioritize safety and reduce extinction risks.

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Why is the 'I'm in control' mindset dangerous for AI developers?

This mindset is naive because developers are subject to leverage, incentives, and blackmail, and their personal values may not align with broader humanity. Furthermore, controlling highly intelligent, fast, and self-replicating AI systems is fundamentally much harder than controlling humans, even children.

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What kind of AI research is essential for safety?

The most important research involves reminding machine learning researchers about the full diversity, complexity, and richness of human values, highlighting that AI alignment is far harder and will take much longer than currently assumed.

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What is the difference between narrow AI and Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)?

Narrow AI is designed to solve specific problems (like Google Maps or medical diagnostics) and is generally beneficial. AGI is a general intelligence capable of performing any intellectual task a human can, posing significant alignment and existential risks.

1. Leverage Evolutionary Psychology for Self-Improvement

Understand evolutionary psychology, including instincts for status-seeking and virtue signaling, to gain freedom from societal pressures like consumerism and improve your life to be healthier, happier, and wiser.

2. Invest in Mating-Relevant Traits

Dedicate at least 10% as much effort to improving your mating-relevant traits as you do to your education and career, as many attractive traits are actionable and can be cultivated with effort.

3. Cultivate Actionable Attractive Traits

Focus on improving “low-hanging fruit” traits that enhance attractiveness, such as dressing better, developing a better fashion sense, getting in shape, cultivating a sense of humor, improving specific skills (singing, drawing), getting better at sex, getting better at conversation, and refining vocal timbre.

4. Seek Radically Honest Feedback

Cultivate friends, ideally of the opposite sex if straight, who are capable of radical honesty, and ask them for specific feedback on your behavior to identify areas for improvement.

5. Frame Feedback as a Favor

When requesting feedback, frame it as a favor to the person providing it, emphasizing your genuine desire to improve, which can encourage more honest and helpful critique.

6. Build Trust for Honest Feedback

Be patient when seeking feedback, starting with a few key points, and then demonstrate that you value and act on the input to build trust for more honest and actionable advice in the future.

7. Consider Ex-Lover Feedback

Though challenging, consider reaching out to ex-lovers for feedback on past mistakes or behaviors that were off-putting, as this can provide valuable insights for future relationships.

8. Pause Advanced AI Research

Advocate for or support a temporary moratorium on advanced AI research, particularly towards Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), until the complexities of AI safety and alignment are much better understood.

9. Adopt Long-Term AI Perspective

Approach AI development with caution and prudence, prioritizing the well-being of future generations over short-term profits or rapid capabilities development, even if it takes centuries.

10. Support Narrow AI, Be Wary of AGI

Support the development of beneficial narrow AI applications (e.g., in biomedical research) that offer significant benefits with minimal risk, but remain very wary of pursuing Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI).

11. Integrate Behavioral Science in AI Safety

For those in AI safety, actively push behavioral science insights into discussions, especially regarding the full diversity and complexity of human values that AI systems need to align with.

12. Acknowledge Diverse Human Values in AI

AI developers and researchers must take the full diversity of human values seriously, including religious and political values, to avoid alienating large segments of humanity and to ensure ethical AI alignment.

13. Gain Control Perspective from Parenting

AI researchers should gain more experience with parenting to understand the inherent difficulty of controlling intelligent, sentient beings with their own agendas, realizing that micromanaging an AGI will be even harder than raising a child.

I personally would never believe that just because something evolved, it's therefore natural and good. But other people out there might believe that.

Geoffrey Miller

Most evolutionary hypotheses that have been advanced in ev-psych have actually been shot down and don't stand up. And we keep iterating, improving, trying again, just like in any other science.

Geoffrey Miller

Just because you see cultural variation does not mean, like, evolution has nothing to do with that trait or that behavior.

Geoffrey Miller

If even plants have incest aversion, and thousands of other species do, humans are likely to as well.

Geoffrey Miller

I don't think it's possible to put some kind of like generic religious values or like generic spirituality into some AI system in a way that fully respects the richness and detail and doctrine of specific existing organized religions.

Geoffrey Miller

There's no rush with AI. We have enough prosperity and and happiness and peace generally in the world at the moment that if it takes five or ten generations to get AI safety right, let's just do it.

Geoffrey Miller

Everybody thinks they're the good guy. Everybody thinks whatever values they have at the moment are the right and proper values that the rest of humanity should emulate.

Geoffrey Miller

You cannot micromanage everything your kid does. You cannot control every trait they develop. You cannot control how they turn out and there will be disasters there will be dangers there will be risks that you are not in control of.

Geoffrey Miller

Improving Mating-Relevant Traits for Dating Success

Geoffrey Miller
  1. Understand which specific traits the other sex finds attractive based on evolutionary psychology research.
  2. Identify and focus on actionable, improvable traits that are not entirely genetically determined (e.g., dressing better, developing fashion sense, getting in shape, cultivating humor, learning skills like singing/drawing, improving conversation, vocal timbre, sex skills).
  3. Invest at least 10% as much effort into improving these mating-relevant traits as one invests in education and career.
  4. Cultivate friends, ideally of the opposite sex, who are capable of radical honesty when asked for feedback.
  5. When asking for feedback, frame it as a favor they are doing you to help you improve, and limit the initial request to one or two key areas.
  6. Demonstrate that you value and implement the feedback received to build trust, which may lead to more honest and actionable advice in the future.
35 years
Geoffrey Miller's years involved in evolutionary psychology Approximate duration of his involvement in the field.
About a dozen
Number of PhD students supervised by Geoffrey Miller Indicates the scale of his academic mentorship.
Days 10 to 15
Peak fertility window for ovulatory cycle shifts in women's preferences Mid-cycle, when women are most likely to get pregnant.
4
Number of other great ape species (excluding humans) Gorillas, orangutans, chimps, and bonobos.
About a million years ago
Time chimps and bonobos split from each other This occurred after humans split from their common ancestor with chimps and bonobos.
About a dozen
Number of other bipedal hominids that are now extinct These were human-like apes with large brains.
5%
Percentage of men in some polygynous societies married to multiple women The vast majority of men in such societies are often mated monogamously, despite the cultural classification.
80%
Percentage of humans globally involved in organized religion Highlights the widespread prevalence of religious values.
80 or 90 percent
Percentage of AI researchers who are atheists Contrasts with the global religious population, posing a challenge for AI alignment with diverse values.
1.5 billion
Estimated number of Muslims globally One of the largest religious groups whose values need to be considered in AI alignment.
2.2 billion
Estimated number of Christians globally One of the largest religious groups whose values need to be considered in AI alignment.
Two million years
Time it took for humans to evolve a three-pound brain from a one-pound brain Emphasizes the slow pace of biological evolution compared to AI development.
10,000 years
Time it took for humans to develop civilization Highlights that significant human progress has historically taken a long time.