Lines of Retreat and Incomplete Maps (with Anna Salamon)

Oct 13, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Spencer Greenberg and Anna Salomon discuss strategies for sense-making in a confusing world. They explore "leaving lines of retreat" to overcome motivated cognition, a game to distinguish "map from territory," and how understanding humans as "hive parts" can illuminate societal dynamics.

At a Glance
7 Insights
1h 26m Duration
9 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Understanding and Applying the Concept of Leaving Lines of Retreat

The Map is Not the Territory: A Visceral Understanding

Sense-Making in the Current World: Challenges and Approaches

The Erosion of Shared Concepts and Coordination Mechanisms

Evil Twin Theory: Explaining Mutual Triggering

Twitter's Role in Amplifying Divisive Content and Eroding Norms

Institutional Rot and the Slowdown of Growth

The Elephant in the Brain: Humans as Hive Parts

Navigating the Destruction of Shared Belief Structures

Leaving Lines of Retreat

This concept, borrowed from Sun Tzu, suggests giving an enemy room to retreat to avoid a fight to the death. Applied to oneself, it means visualizing worst-case scenarios and having plans for them, which allows for more flexible thinking and reduces motivated cognition by removing the 'must believe' pressure.

The Map is Not the Territory

This refers to the idea that our mental models or beliefs about reality (the map) are never exactly reality itself (the territory). It highlights that our understanding is an approximation, and we often forget this distinction in daily life, treating our map as reality.

Evil Twin Theory

Developed by Venkatesh Rao, this theory suggests that people have different 'faculties' (e.g., analytic thought, gut sense) developed to varying degrees. An 'evil twin' has faculties in reverse order. In low-trust contexts, when these 'evil twins' interact, they tend to clamp down on their strongest faculties, leading to mutual triggering and escalating misunderstanding, as each insists the other engage with their 'driver' (strongest faculty) which is the other's 'backseat' (weakest faculty).

Societal Shelling Points

These are common concepts, words, or norms (like 'love,' 'racism,' 'DUI line') that groups cohere around to enable coordination and shared understanding of good and bad behaviors. While useful for societal function, they involve approximations, and challenging them can be seen as eroding the very basis of collective action and shared values.

Humans as Hive Parts

This model, inspired by 'Elephant in the Brain,' suggests that humans operate less as purely individual agents and more as 80% 'attempted hive part' and 20% individual. This means a significant portion of our actions and beliefs are guided by group-generated symbols and narratives, rather than solely by individual models or reasoning.

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What does it mean to leave lines of retreat?

Leaving lines of retreat means visualizing potential negative outcomes, like a job not working out or getting lost, and forming plans for them. This practice helps reduce anxiety and allows for more flexible thinking by removing the mental pressure to avoid certain possibilities.

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How can one viscerally understand that 'the map is not the territory'?

One technique is to play the 'Whose Map Is Not The Territory Game,' narrating one's actions from an outside perspective and explicitly stating 'Whose Map Was Not The Territory' before describing an action, prompting automatic questioning of one's beliefs and their alignment with reality.

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Why is it difficult to make sense of the current state of the world?

It's difficult because traditional 'maps' or institutions that once provided reliable information and coordination are disappearing or becoming untrustworthy, leading to a feeling that one's understanding of reality is incomplete or breaking down.

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How do shared concepts and social norms erode?

Shared concepts erode when 'weird edge cases' are amplified, challenging the boundaries of these concepts and making it difficult to maintain collective agreement on what they mean, especially in low-trust environments where people double down on their own partial understandings.

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How does Twitter contribute to societal division and the erosion of norms?

Twitter's structure, with character limits and rapid amplification mechanisms, encourages definitive statements without nuance and selectively amplifies content that triggers emotional responses, leading to subcultures clashing and the breakdown of shared understanding.

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What is the relationship between economic growth and societal cooperation?

In periods of high growth and abundance, it makes sense for groups to cooperate and share resources. However, when growth slows, there's a tendency for groups to engage in 'fixed pie' thinking, leading to competition and political maneuvering to gain resources at the expense of others, rather than creating new value.

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Why do people resist challenging widely accepted beliefs, even if they seem flawed?

People resist challenging widely accepted beliefs because these beliefs often serve as crucial 'orientation posts' or 'societal shelling points' that enable group coordination and a sense of shared reality. Undermining them can feel like attacking the very foundation of how society functions, leading to fear of being seen as 'crazy' or causing collapse.

1. Visualize Worst-Case Scenarios

To overcome motivated cognition and anxiety, visualize what you would do if your worst fears or negative outcomes (e.g., job failure, getting lost) actually happened. This practice allows for more flexible thinking and prepares you to act, preventing you from fighting yourself to the death over a belief.

2. Narrate Actions, Question Beliefs

Play the “Whose Map Is Not The Territory” game by narrating your actions from an external perspective, adding “Whose Map Was Not The Territory” after your name. This technique helps viscerally remember that your beliefs are approximations of reality, prompting you to question assumptions and test them against the actual territory.

3. Deep Dive into Information Sources

In times of low trust, avoid relying on single sources or quick checks like Wikipedia. Instead, read multiple sources, dig into details, and examine how numbers or claims were calculated to make your own sense of complex societal issues.

4. Create Hypothesis Documents

To make sense of confusing situations, create documents with bullet points listing different hypotheses that might explain events. Under each hypothesis, note thoughts on how they might relate or overlap, helping to organize complex information.

5. Seek Perspective, Disconnect

Take multi-day chunks of time disconnected from the internet to read older books. This practice provides mental space and a broader historical or philosophical perspective, aiding in understanding current events.

6. Understand Group-Driven Behavior

Adopt a mental model where humans are largely “attempted hive parts” (e.g., 80% hive, 20% individual), following group-generated symbols and norms rather than purely individual models. This helps understand societal and individual behavior, especially when people are reluctant to deviate from group consensus.

7. Analyze Societal Function & Values

When societal norms or institutions are breaking down, consciously strive to understand what structures used to hold things up and what values they embodied. This involves asking what processes historically provided abundance and knowledge, allowing for informed adaptation rather than wanton destruction.

The thing I'm after is to make it sort of similarly continually obvious that the map, that my map, including my map about the map not being the territory, is not the territory.

Anna Salamon

Updates hurt, but like new states of the world don't hurt that much.

Spencer Greenberg

It seems to me that Twitter as a medium is peculiarly designed to allow this compared to say Facebook or certainly compared to something like traditional blogging.

Anna Salamon

Almost all of our ancestors lived in a world where they didn't think there was some benevolent government in charge.

Spencer Greenberg

It's more like escalating things toward saying the thing that'll let me hold on to the shard of human value I can sort of see while they say the thing that will let them hold on to it. But it's more like, it's more like an extreme signal and less like the policy that each of us would really want.

Anna Salamon

Leaving Lines of Retreat (Self-Application)

Anna Salamon
  1. Identify a fear or potential negative outcome (e.g., getting lost on a hike, a job not working out).
  2. Take a moment to visualize the worst plausible scenario if that thing happens.
  3. Formulate plans for what you would do if that scenario occurred.
  4. Recognize that you can still have plans and agency in that 'new world,' which helps to regain mental flexibility and reduce flinching away from the possibility.

Whose Map Is Not The Territory Game

Anna Salamon
  1. Narrate your actions from an outside perspective (e.g., 'Anna was at that moment sipping coffee...').
  2. Immediately after stating your name, add the phrase 'Whose Map Was Not The Territory' (e.g., 'Anna, Whose Map Was Not The Territory, put in the salmon for enough time...').
  3. Use an intonation pattern that prompts you to automatically question your assumptions and beliefs related to the action (e.g., 'Wait a second, is the salmon going to be ready in 20 minutes? Why do I think that?').
  4. Continuously practice this to maintain a visceral awareness of the distinction between your mental model and reality.
50 times a day
Frequency of using 'leaving lines of retreat' technique Anna Salamon's personal usage, often for small things.
20 hours
Time invested in learning about a complex topic (e.g., societal issues) Example given by Spencer Greenberg for a mathematician, still leading to confusion, highlighting the difficulty for others.
six months
Duration of recommended quarantine for COVID-19 A friend's early recommendation in late February, which felt 'crazy' at the time but became normalized by late March.
20%
Proportion of human behavior modeled as 'individual' Anna Salamon's model after reading 'Elephant in the Brain', suggesting humans are less individual than previously thought.
80%
Proportion of human behavior modeled as 'attempted hive part' Anna Salamon's model after reading 'Elephant in the Brain', suggesting humans are largely guided by group-generated symbols.