What happens when you follow 100 self-help books to the letter? (with Kristen Meinzer)

May 15, 2024 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Spencer Greenberg speaks with Kristen Meinzer, co-host of "How to Be Fine," about self-help books. They discuss the challenges of extracting actionable advice, the impact of personal circumstances on self-help effectiveness, and common pitfalls like universal claims, victim-blaming, and unregulated coaching.

At a Glance
18 Insights
1h 15m Duration
16 Topics
4 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Kristen Meinzer and the 'How to Be Fine' Podcast

Challenges of Distilling Actionable Advice from Self-Help Books

Different Motivations for Reading Self-Help Books

The Problem with Universal Self-Help Advice and Personal Circumstances

Gender Differences in Self-Help and Societal Expectations

Critique of 'Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus'

Harmful Self-Help Ideas: Law of Attraction and Victim-Blaming

The 'Kernel of Truth' in Positive Thinking and its Dangerous Packaging

The 'I Was Like You, Now I'm Better' Narrative in Self-Help

Critique of the Life Coaching Industry and Pyramid Schemes

Characteristics of Effective Therapy and Coaching

Personal Takeaways and Changes from Living by 100 Self-Help Books

Most Toxic Ideas Encountered in Self-Help Books

The Dangers of Diet Books and Unsustainable Advice

Unique and Valuable Self-Help Approaches: Grudges and Community Care

Advice for Approaching Self-Help Books

Self-Help Books as Interventions

Rather than merely sources of information, self-help books can be viewed as interventions designed to change a reader's thinking, motivate them, or alter their behavior. They aim to produce a tangible difference in a person's life after reading.

Law of Attraction

This is a belief, often found in self-help, that positive thoughts attract positive outcomes and negative thoughts attract negative outcomes, implying 'like attracts like.' It is critiqued as unscientific and potentially harmful, as it can lead to victim-blaming.

Confirmation Bias in Self-Help

People often find self-help books most beneficial when the advice confirms what they already believe or practice. This suggests that the perceived benefit might stem from validating existing behaviors rather than learning entirely new, transformative ones.

Community Care

This approach challenges the individualistic premise of much self-help by suggesting that personal unhappiness or problems might stem from larger structural or social issues, not solely individual failings. It advocates for addressing systemic problems to improve well-being for individuals and society.

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Why are self-help books often unclear or lacking actionable steps?

Many self-help books are poorly written, burying actionable advice within hundreds of pages of anecdotes and stories, making it difficult for readers to distill concrete steps without significant effort.

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What are common motivations for reading self-help books?

Many people read self-help books for inspiration, to feel connected, understood, or to find insight and solutions to personal challenges, rather than strictly for concrete, actionable advice.

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Why shouldn't self-help advice be considered universal?

Humans have vastly different life experiences, biology, socioeconomic circumstances, and traumas, meaning that what works for one person (like an author) may not work for another, and assuming universality can lead to feelings of failure if advice doesn't apply.

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How does gender affect the self-help industry and its advice?

Two-thirds of best-selling self-help books are written by men, while two-thirds of readers are women, leading to men often prescribing advice to women without understanding their unique societal pressures or experiences, and often reinforcing gender stereotypes.

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What is the problem with the 'Law of Attraction' in self-help?

The 'Law of Attraction' falsely claims that positive attracts positive and negative attracts negative, ignoring that bad things happen to good people and vice versa, and can lead to victim-blaming by suggesting individuals are responsible for attracting their own misfortunes.

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What is a common narrative structure in many self-help books?

A prevalent narrative is 'I was down on my luck, then I did this, and now I'm successful; if I can do it, anyone can,' often downplaying the author's inherent advantages or privileged background.

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What is a significant issue within the life coaching industry?

Many life coaching businesses operate like pyramid schemes, primarily making money by selling unaccredited 'certifications' to new coaches rather than by actually coaching clients, exploiting individuals seeking a new career or purpose.

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What are two strong indicators of an effective therapist or coach?

Effective therapists or coaches tend to 'fire' clients once their problems are solved, indicating progress, and they often give 'homework' or tasks to complete between sessions to facilitate real-world change.

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What was a key personal takeaway for Kristen Meinzer after living by 100 self-help books?

She developed significantly more empathy for self-help readers, understanding their motivations for seeking solutions and acknowledging that personal change often requires more than just 'knowing' what to do.

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What are some of the most toxic ideas found in self-help books?

Toxic ideas include rigid gender categorizations, victim-blaming (e.g., asking what one did to cause abuse or rape), and promoting unsustainable or dangerous practices like extreme diets or unrealistic productivity demands.

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Why are diet books particularly dangerous?

Diet books often promote unsustainable eating practices (like 'magic leek soup' diets) that lead to nutrient deprivation and can trigger disordered eating, ultimately blaming the reader when the diet fails and weight is regained.

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What advice is given for approaching self-help books?

Readers should remember they are the ultimate experts on themselves, feel free to pick and choose useful 'nuggets' or passages, and understand that if a book doesn't work, it's usually not their fault, as there are no universals in self-help.

1. Recognize Individual Differences

Understand that self-help advice is not universal; what works for one person may not work for another due to differing biology, traumas, or socioeconomic circumstances. Do not feel broken or like a failure if a method doesn’t work for you.

2. Avoid Universal Assumptions

Be cautious of people, especially self-help authors, who assume that whatever worked for them will work for everyone else. Their conviction does not necessarily equate to universal truth.

3. Question Self-Help Authority

Remember that you are the ultimate expert on yourself, not the author of a self-help book, who doesn’t know your unique background or traumas. Many authors may also lack genuine credentials despite appearing as experts.

4. Selectively Apply Self-Help

Feel free to pick and choose specific nuggets of advice that resonate with you from self-help books, rather than trying to follow every instruction. Discard what doesn’t work for you without self-blame.

5. Don’t Evangelize Self-Help

If a self-help book or method works for you, avoid becoming an evangelist and trying to force others to adopt it. What works for you may not work for them, and it’s okay for people to be different.

6. Prioritize Community Care

Consider that personal unhappiness or challenges might stem from larger structural or social issues, not just individual failings. Seek solutions that address community well-being in addition to self-care.

7. Critically Evaluate Therapy/Coaching

Approach therapists and life coaches with caution, especially when vulnerable, and remember they are human with biases and agendas. Be wary of those who don’t set professional boundaries or whose theories lack evidence.

8. Ask Therapist for Homework

To make therapy more effective, ask your therapist for homework or things to do between sessions. This ensures you’re actively applying insights and making progress outside of the session time.

9. Evaluate Therapist Longevity

Consider if a long-term therapeutic relationship (e.g., over 20 years) is still productive or if it has become a crutch. A good therapist should ideally help clients make progress and eventually part ways.

10. Practice Positive Observation

Actively look for the good things in your environment and life, as this can make life more enjoyable and beautiful. This practice can shift your perspective away from constant negativity.

11. Find Good in Everything

Try an exercise of walking down the street and finding something positive or amazing about everything you see, from a stop sign to a coffee shop. This can foster excitement and appreciation for being alive.

12. Greet Loved Ones Enthusiastically

Emulate the enthusiasm of a dog greeting its owner by showing genuine excitement and affection when loved ones return or when you see them. This can strengthen relationships and make people feel valued.

13. Make Tiny Connections

Don’t let the pursuit of perfect, long interactions prevent you from making small, frequent efforts to connect with friends and loved ones. Even a single sentence or a quick shared memory can be enough to maintain a bond.

14. Avoid Victim-Blaming Narratives

Reject self-help ideas that encourage taking ownership for traumas or bad things that were not your fault. Acknowledge legitimate victimization as part of the healing process, then focus on moving forward and building strength.

15. Be Wary of Diet Books

Recognize that diet books are often dangerous and unsustainable, promoting extreme eating habits that can lead to nutrient deprivation and disordered eating. They frequently blame the reader for failure rather than acknowledging their own flawed premises.

16. Question Productivity Extremes

Be skeptical of productivity books that advocate extreme routines like waking at 5 AM and working until midnight, as these are often unsustainable and can lead to burnout and sleep deprivation. Understand that bodies have limits and not everyone can maintain such a schedule.

17. Give Women Permission to Be Angry

Acknowledge that it’s healthy for women to feel and express anger, as many self-help narratives often deny this emotion. There are valid reasons for anger, and it shouldn’t always be suppressed or reframed.

18. Thoroughly Distill Self-Help Books

If you want to truly follow a self-help book, read it with a fine-tooth comb, highlighting, outlining, and spending significant time to distill the actual actionable steps. Many books bury their advice amidst anecdotes, making it hard to find clear instructions.

I feel that one of the most common errors that smart people make is they assume that whatever worked for them will work for others.

Spencer Greenberg

Their conviction doesn't necessarily equal truth. It means it worked for them.

Kristen Meinzer

It's not healthy to say, what did I do to ask for it? But so many self-help books really tell us that's what we should be doing. Take ownership of your trauma. What did you do to bring it on yourself?

Kristen Meinzer

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, right? And I feel the same way with a lot of self help books.

Kristen Meinzer

Nobody is more of an expert in you than you.

Kristen Meinzer

There's no such thing as universals when it comes to self-help.

Kristen Meinzer

How to be 'the dog' (showing excitement for loved ones)

Kristen Meinzer (inspired by Andrew Carnegie's 'How to Win Friends and Influence People')
  1. When a loved one returns home or you see them, greet them with genuine excitement, as if it's the first time you've seen them in years.
  2. Express your happiness and appreciation for their presence in your life, rather than focusing on minor annoyances.
  3. Consider ending phone calls with friends and family by saying 'I love you,' even if they respond awkwardly.

Connecting with Friends (Tiny Moments of Connection)

Kristen Meinzer
  1. Don't feel pressured to write a whole letter or have an hour-long phone call to connect with friends.
  2. Send a single sentence or a quick, simple message to a friend you haven't seen in a while.
  3. Examples include: 'Hey, I saw this picture of an elephant and thought of you,' or 'Remember that one time...'

Making Therapy More Effective

Kristen Meinzer
  1. Ask your therapist for homework or tasks to complete between sessions.
  2. If your therapist refuses to give homework, ask them to explain their reasoning.
  3. Recognize that an effective therapist should eventually part ways with clients once their problems are solved, rather than maintaining a perpetual relationship.
nearly 100
Number of self-help books Kristen Meinzer and co-host lived by For their podcast 'By the Book'
20 to 100 hours
Hours spent distilling rules from each self-help book Before recording each podcast episode
Two-thirds
Percentage of best-selling self-help books written by men According to a Goodreads study from a few years ago
Two-thirds
Percentage of self-help book readers who are women According to a Goodreads study from a few years ago
$20,000
Example cost of a life coaching certification course Mentioned by Kristen Meinzer as a friend's experience
6 months
Example duration to complete a life coaching certification course Mentioned by Kristen Meinzer as a friend's experience
85%
Percentage of Americans who cannot afford to pay for their kids to go to college According to one study
First 6 years
Years Kristen Meinzer's marriage was recorded for the podcast Due to the nature of the podcast
Over 30
Number of Kristen Meinzer's friends who were repeatedly on the show They universally preferred not being recorded after the show ended