#071 Peter Diamandis, MD, and Tony Robbins on strategies that promote longevity now – and in the very near future

Mar 9, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Tony Robbins and Dr. Peter Diamandis discuss their health-promoting habits, annual disease detection protocols, and the future of regenerative and precision medicine. They explore breakthroughs in stem cells, gene therapy, and organogenesis, aiming to extend healthy human lifespan.

At a Glance
12 Insights
1h 37m Duration
19 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis Collaboration

Tony Robbins' Personal Health Crisis and Stem Cell Experience

The Power of Placental Stem Cells and Regenerative Medicine

Tony Robbins' Health-Promoting Lifestyle Habits and Biohacking

The Psychological Impact of Placebo and Mindset on Health

Peter Diamandis' Annual Digital Upload for Early Disease Detection

The Role of Hormones in Health and Optimization

Understanding the Mechanisms of Aging: Epigenetics, Sirtuins, NAD+

NMN Supplementation and its Impact on Endurance and Cognition

Interrupted Cellular Reprogramming and Yamanaka Factors for Age Reversal

The Rise of Longevity Research Funding and XPRIZE Initiatives

Longevity Escape Velocity: Living Long Enough to Live Forever

The Importance of Purpose and Fulfillment in an Extended Lifespan

Space Travel, Radiation, and the Challenge of Human Longevity

CRISPR Gene Therapy: Curing Genetic Diseases and Beyond

Therapeutic Plasma Exchange and GDF-11 for Rejuvenation

Organ Regeneration and 3D Printing for Infinite Organ Supply

Societal Implications of Longevity and Affordable Health Technologies

mRNA Vaccine Technology for Countering Immunosenescence and Chronic Disease

Epigenome

The epigenome refers to the regulation of genes, controlling which genes are turned on or off. It's like the piano player for your genes (the piano keys), influencing how your genetic blueprint is expressed without changing the underlying DNA sequence.

Sirtuins

Sirtuins are a family of seven genes and enzymes that have two main functions: controlling the epigenome (gene regulation) and facilitating DNA repair. As we age, sirtuins become increasingly occupied with DNA repair, diverting their attention from epigenome control, which contributes to aging.

NAD+

NAD+ (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) is a coenzyme that acts as a fuel source for sirtuins within cells, particularly in the mitochondria. Its levels naturally decline rapidly after age 40-50, reducing the sirtuins' ability to function effectively in both epigenome control and DNA repair.

Interrupted Cellular Reprogramming

This technique involves pulsing Yamanaka factors (transcription factors) into adult cells to reset their epigenetic clock and make them biologically younger without causing them to lose their original cell identity. It has shown promise in reversing aspects of aging in animal models, such as restoring vision in blind mice.

Longevity Escape Velocity

A concept describing a point where, for every year a person lives, science advances enough to extend their life by more than a year. This creates a scenario where an individual could theoretically live indefinitely, continuously intercepting new life-extending technologies.

CRISPR Gene Therapy

CRISPR is a revolutionary gene-editing technology that allows scientists to make precise changes to DNA, enabling the treatment and potential cure of genetic diseases. It holds promise for addressing conditions like sickle cell anemia, thalassemia, HIV, and even congenital blindness by correcting or modifying specific genes.

Immunosenescence

This refers to the gradual exhaustion and decline of the immune system as a person ages. It occurs because the immune system is constantly battling viruses accumulated over decades, making it less effective at suppressing these viruses and more susceptible to new infections and diseases like cancer.

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What are the benefits of banking placenta and cord blood stem cells?

Banking placenta and cord blood provides access to multipotent (cord blood) and pluripotent (placenta) stem cells, which are 'day zero old' and haven't developed a 'us versus them' characteristic, meaning they can potentially be used for anyone without immune rejection.

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How does sleep impact heart health and testosterone levels?

Losing just one hour of sleep (e.g., during daylight savings) is associated with a 24% increase in heart attacks, while gaining an hour is linked to a 21% decrease. Men who sleep 4-5 hours a night often have testosterone levels equivalent to someone 10 years older.

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What is the significance of the placebo effect in health and healing?

The placebo effect demonstrates the mind's profound ability to influence physical health; belief in a treatment can lead to significant pain reduction and healing, even without active medication, and can even alter physiological responses to drugs.

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What is the difference between soft plaque and calcified plaque in coronary arteries?

Calcified plaque, while indicating a high calcium score, is generally stable and less likely to rupture. Soft plaque, however, is a greater concern as it can rupture and block coronary arteries, leading to heart attacks, even in individuals with a zero calcium score.

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Why do humans age, despite having the same genome throughout life?

Aging is primarily due to the epigenome, the regulatory system that turns genes on and off, rather than changes in the genome itself. Over time, factors like DNA damage distract sirtuin enzymes (which control the epigenome and repair DNA), and declining NAD+ levels reduce their fuel, leading to dysregulation and aging.

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What is the current status of NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) as an anti-aging supplement?

While NMN has shown promise in animal studies, significantly increasing endurance and muscle development, and improving cognition, its absorption and stability in commercial products have been a challenge. A synthetic, crystallized form (MIB 626) is undergoing FDA trials, with projections for approval in 18-24 months, potentially as a doctor-prescribed substance with enhanced absorption.

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When do experts believe we might achieve 'longevity escape velocity'?

Ray Kurzweil predicts longevity escape velocity could be achieved in about a dozen years, while Dr. George Church estimates it within 15 years. This suggests that individuals who remain healthy enough in the next 15 years may intercept technologies that can add decades, and then centuries, to their lives.

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What are the implications of human space travel for the aging process?

Space travel exposes astronauts to cosmic radiation, which accelerates DNA damage and chromosomal instability, thereby affecting the aging process. Addressing this will require advanced shielding, or potentially genetic engineering to enhance radiation repair mechanisms in humans.

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How can CRISPR gene therapy impact human health in the near future?

CRISPR is expected to cure almost every genetic disease in individuals within the next decade to 15 years, including sickle cell anemia, thalassemia, and specific forms of congenital blindness. It also shows promise in reducing LDL cholesterol levels and treating HIV.

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What is the potential of organ regeneration technologies?

Researchers are using stem cells to grow and 3D print organs, starting with simpler tubular structures like bladders and urethras, and progressing to more complex ones like pediatric hearts. Xenotransplantation (humanizing pig organs) also offers the potential for a near-infinite supply of organs for transplantation.

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Will advanced longevity treatments only be available to the wealthy?

While initial costs for gene therapies can be high (millions for rare diseases), the scaling of technologies like mRNA vaccines suggests that with high-volume production, the cost per treatment could drop significantly, potentially making longevity treatments affordable for a broader population, similar to a $20 vaccine.

1. Cultivate Purpose & Optimism

Cultivate an optimistic mindset, a sense of purpose, and gratitude, as these psychological and emotional factors are paramount for overall well-being and can significantly influence the quality and experience of life. Living for something greater than oneself, like family or community, provides a sustained burst of energy and aliveness, which is considered the single most important component for a great life experience.

2. Annual Advanced Health Screening

Undergo an annual ‘digital upload’ including full body/brain/vasculature MRIs for aneurysm and cancer detection, Grail liquid biopsy for 50 cancer types, and a Clearly coronary CT for soft plaque detection, along with DEXA scan, genome sequencing, gut biology analysis, and comprehensive blood tests. This proactive screening aims to detect conditions at early, treatable stages (stage one or two) to significantly increase survival chances and allow for immediate action, as ignorance can lead to pain and death.

3. Prioritize Quality Sleep

Prioritize getting 8 hours of sleep consistently by maintaining a regular sleep and wake time, using an eye mask, keeping the room temperature around 65 degrees Fahrenheit, and avoiding blue light exposure before bed. This is crucial as insufficient sleep (4-5 hours) can lower testosterone levels (equivalent to aging 10 years) and increase the risk of heart attacks.

4. Adopt a Clean Diet

Minimize sugar intake, viewing it as a ‘poison’ that causes neuroinflammation, cardiac disease, and feeds cancer, and instead focus on a whole plant-based, Mediterranean-style diet. This dietary approach is recommended for overall health and longevity.

5. Maintain Daily Exercise

Engage in regular physical activity, including lifting weights twice a week and aiming for 10,000 steps daily, along with other lighter exercises, to keep the body in motion and maintain overall physical health.

6. Optimize Hormone Levels

Consider hormone optimization therapy, not just replacement therapy for problems, to proactively balance hormone levels (e.g., testosterone in men). Optimizing hormones can lead to increased energy, weight loss, and an overall improved quality of life, even if levels are technically ’normal’ but not optimal.

7. Utilize Heat and Cold Therapy

Engage in heat stress (saunas 4-7 times a week) and cold water immersion/cryotherapy for mood boosting, improved healthspan, and reduced risk of heart attack or stroke. This practice is considered invaluable for overall well-being.

8. Test for Heavy Metals

Get a blood test for heavy metals, especially if consuming older, larger fish like swordfish and tuna, which can accumulate high levels of mercury. This is important because high mercury levels can be detrimental to health, and individual DNA can affect detoxification processes.

9. Bank Placental Stem Cells

If pregnant or knowing someone who is, consider banking both cord blood and placental stem cells, as placental cells are a rich source of pluripotent stem cells and immune cells that can be used for future regenerative medicine without immune rejection. This is like saving ‘original software’ before it gets corrupted.

10. Explore Biohacking Technologies

Explore hyperbaric oxygen therapy and pulsed electromagnetic field (PEMF) therapy as biohacking tools to potentially enhance cellular energy and recovery, supporting high-demand physical and mental activities.

11. Consider NMN Supplementation

Consider NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) supplementation to support NAD levels, which naturally decline after age 40-50, to fuel sirtuins for DNA repair and epigenetic control, and boost mitochondrial energy. However, be aware that many NMN products on the market may be inert due to breakdown, so research product quality carefully.

12. Stay Updated on Longevity Science

Utilize resources like longevityinsider.org to stay updated on the latest breakthroughs in health and longevity science, as continuous advancements are rapidly changing the landscape of age reversal and disease prevention, making one optimistic about the future.

Ignorance is poverty. Ignorance is pain. Ignorance can be death. And today there's some tools there that can change it all.

Tony Robbins

Health is a new wealth. And I don't think there's a bigger marketplace on the planet, right? It's like, you still can't take it with you. And if you could spend your money to extend your lifespan, it's massively valuable.

Peter Diamandis

The person who has their health has a thousand dreams. And the man or woman who does not has but one dream is so true.

Peter Diamandis

If you don't grow, it doesn't matter how much money you have, doesn't matter how many people acknowledge you, how many stars on your chart. It doesn't matter. You will not be fulfilled because what makes us alive is growing.

Tony Robbins

This is a magical time to be alive. And as I tell everybody, in my family and friends, and in this book, you know, you just don't want to die from something stupid in the interim.

Peter Diamandis

Tony Robbins' Sleep Optimization Hacks

Tony Robbins
  1. Maintain a consistent time to fall asleep and wake up (though he admits this is not perfect for him).
  2. Aim for 8 hours of sleep per night.
  3. Wear an eye mask.
  4. Keep the bedroom temperature around 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
  5. Avoid blue light exposure before bed (or use rose-colored goggles).

Peter Diamandis' Annual Digital Upload

Peter Diamandis
  1. Undergo a full body MRI, brain MRI, and brain vasculature MRI to detect aneurysms or cancers early.
  2. Take a GRAIL liquid biopsy blood test to screen for 50 different cancers.
  3. Undergo a Cleerly AI-driven coronary CT scan to detect soft plaque in coronary arteries.
  4. Perform a DEXA scan for bone density and body composition.
  5. Analyze genome, gut biology, and a comprehensive panel of blood tests (150 gigabytes of data).
24%
Heart attack increase when losing 1 hour of sleep Observed in 70 countries during daylight savings 'spring forward' over 3 days.
21%
Heart attack decrease when gaining 1 hour of sleep Observed in 70 countries during daylight savings 'fall back'.
65 degrees Fahrenheit
Ideal sleep temperature for deeper sleep Recommended by Dr. Walker.
11,300 calories
Tony Robbins' average calorie burn on stage Measured over a 12-hour day, device battery died after 9 hours.
99.9% higher
Tony Robbins' bone density Compared to anything Olympic athlete researchers had ever measured.
18
Tony Robbins' lactic acid level while speaking Compared to typical 'can't talk anymore' level of 4.
123
Tony Robbins' mercury level On a 0-5 scale, highest ever measured in New York state, due to fish consumption.
90%
Placebo effect effectiveness for pain relief Patients out of pain with no drugs in a World War II morphine shortage.
80%
Risk of death from cancer at stage 3 or 4 According to a National Cancer Society study on 100,000 people.
80% to 99.9%
Chance of survival from cancer at stage 1 or 2 According to a National Cancer Society study.
2%
Percentage of people in Peter Diamandis' age group with undiagnosed cancer Found through annual full body MRI screening.
2.5%
Percentage of people in Peter Diamandis' age group with undiagnosed aneurysm Found through annual full body MRI screening.
14.4%
Percentage of people in Peter Diamandis' age group with actionable findings from MRI Something found that requires action.
30%
NMN absorption rate Typical absorption rate, leading to inert products over time.
200-300%
Increase in mouse endurance after 14 days on NMN Equivalent to a 70-year-old mouse running 2-3 km, compared to 0.25 km before.
$5-10 billion
Annual investment in age reversal and longevity research Current estimated capital flow into the field.
86%
Accuracy rate of Ray Kurzweil's predictions over 30 years Based on Google search of his predictions.
$38 trillion
Value of adding one year of healthy lifespan to global economy According to a study from London School of Business, Harvard, and Oxford.
5.4 children
Average number of children per family globally 50 years ago Compared to 2.4 children today.
$0.5-2 million
Cost of a gene therapy for rare diseases today Per treatment.
$20
Cost of a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine Illustrates potential cost of scaled gene therapy.
$14,000
Annual cost of Repatha (PCSK9 inhibitor) For Peter Diamandis' personal use.
$100
Projected cost of Vaccinity's PCSK9 vaccine If approved and scaled.