Behind the scenes of Calendly’s rapid growth | Annie Pearl (CPO)

Feb 26, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Annie Pearl, CPO at Calendly, shares insights on building product, including team structure, OKR alignment, and strategic focus. She also discusses Calendly's unique growth story, the transition to sales-led growth, and offers advice on breaking into product management.

At a Glance
26 Insights
1h 1m Duration
17 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Annie Pearl and Calendly

Tips for Sending Calendly Invites Gracefully

Paths to Transitioning into Product Management

Associate Product Manager (APM) Programs

Calendly's Product Team Structure and Design Reporting

Evolution and Impact of OKRs at Calendly

Narrowing Calendly's Customer Focus for Efficiency

Calendly's Growth Model: Viral Loop to Sales-Led Growth

Building Strong Product-Sales Team Relationships

Calendly's Planning and Prioritization Approach

Calendly's Product Strategy Artifacts and Tech Stack

The Origin Story of Calendly's First 1,000 Users

Surprising New Growth Levers: Focus on Teams Business

Unique Cultural Practices of Calendly's Product Team

Learnings from Box and Glassdoor Applied to Calendly

The Skip Community for Chief Product Officers

Lightning Round: Recommendations and Pro Tips

Product Strategy

A product strategy is an integrated set of choices that define how a company will succeed in its chosen market. It answers questions about winning aspirations, target markets and segments, specific personas, and the approach to winning with that audience, ultimately guiding prioritization by clarifying where to play and where not to play.

Product-Led Growth (PLG)

PLG is a business model where the product itself drives user acquisition, activation, conversion, and retention. Historically, Calendly's growth was almost entirely product-led, relying on its viral loop and self-service model.

Sales-Led Growth (SLG)

SLG is a growth model that involves a direct sales team to acquire customers, often targeting larger accounts or specific departments. Calendly has transitioned from a purely PLG model to incorporating an SLG motion, which is now its fastest-growing segment.

OPA (Opportunity Problem Assessment)

OPA is a meeting within Calendly's product team where product managers debate and discuss problem spaces or evaluate opportunities. It serves as a forum for PMs to spar and think through potential work, deciding whether to move forward with developing solutions.

Competitive War Gaming

A quarterly exercise at Calendly where teams are assigned a competitor, immerse themselves in that competitor's product, conduct a SWOT analysis, and present their findings. This helps the company stay informed about the market and refine its own strategy.

Product Development Lifecycle Phases

Calendly structures its product development into distinct phases: Discovery (researching a problem space), Solutioning (exploring and user-testing solutions), Build (developing the chosen solution), and Launch, Measure, and Iterate (releasing the product and refining it based on performance).

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How can you send a Calendly invite without it feeling awkward or like a power move?

To avoid awkwardness, first open the door for the recipient to share their availability. Alternatively, use Calendly's 'add times to email' feature to paste specific available times directly into your email, reducing friction for the recipient.

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What are the main paths for someone without a technical background to transition into a product management role?

Paths include applying to formal Associate Product Manager (APM) programs, applying to junior PM roles via internal job boards (especially from product-adjacent functions), seeking opportunities to shadow or partner with PMs and take on product work, or joining an early-stage startup where roles are often fluid.

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Why don't more companies have Associate Product Manager (APM) programs?

Building a successful APM program requires significant investment and intentionality, including clear interview processes, defined role expectations, training elements, and sufficient capacity to set participants up for success, which many companies at earlier stages may not have.

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How does Calendly structure its product teams?

Calendly's product organization includes product managers, designers, a research team, and product operations. Teams are structured around core user experience (features and growth for core personas), enterprise (IT admins and departmental leaders), and platform (integrations and APIs).

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What was a significant change Calendly made to improve execution and shipping speed?

Calendly narrowed its overall product strategy and target market, segments, and personas. This clarity allows product managers to prioritize more effectively, saying 'no' to features outside the core focus and delivering better value for target users.

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How does Calendly primarily grow its user base?

Calendly primarily grows through a viral loop, where 70% of signups come from recipients of Calendly links. These solo users then invite team members, leading to team adoption, which can eventually convert into larger organizational deals through sales.

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What are key considerations when transitioning from a Product-Led Growth (PLG) model to adding a Sales-Led Growth (SLG) motion?

It's crucial to hire sales reps suited for an inbound motion (grower profile) in the early stages, as opposed to heavy outbound hunters. Additionally, ensure the sales team's profile matches the target buyer, which initially tends to be department heads rather than IT or CIOs.

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How can product leaders build a strong relationship and effective collaboration with a sales team?

Product leaders should approach the sales team with customer empathy, viewing them as a valuable asset for getting closer to the customer. Sales teams talk to many more customers than product managers, providing critical insights for product decisions.

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How does Calendly prioritize its product work?

Prioritization starts with a clear, multi-year product strategy defining where Calendly will play and how it will win. This strategy is broken down into annual company OKRs with quarterly milestones. Product work and resource allocation are then directly aligned to support these OKRs and strategic horizons.

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How did Calendly acquire its first 1,000 users?

Calendly's founder, Tope Awotona, initially hired an outside development firm in Ukraine. The first 10 users were customer success agents at an education company that contracted with the same firm. These CSMs used Calendly to schedule calls with parents, who then started using it for parent-teacher conferences, leading to organic spread, especially as the product was initially free.

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What is a surprising new growth lever for Calendly today?

While Calendly is widely known as a solo user tool, its 'teams business' (multiple users in an organization collaboratively scheduling) is growing much faster. This focus on supporting teams and departments in externally-facing roles is seen as the future of growth.

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What is Annie Pearl's best Calendly Pro tip?

Annie recommends the 'Customize Once and Share' feature, which allows users to make on-the-fly changes to an event type (like title, duration, or date) for a specific recipient without having to create a brand new event type for a one-off tweak.

1. Narrow Product Focus for Impact

Define a clear product strategy by identifying the specific market, segments, and personas to target, which enables product teams to prioritize effectively and deliver amazing value for a focused group rather than average solutions for many.

2. Define Winning Product Strategy

Use a framework like ‘Playing to Win’ to outline winning aspirations, identify where to play (target markets, segments, personas), and determine how to win with that target audience, which inherently clarifies where not to play.

3. Align OKRs Across Company

Ensure OKRs are tightly integrated from company-level objectives down to department-level key results, with clear dependency mapping and cross-functional plans to support the most important objectives.

4. Instill “Focus Wisely” Principle

Embed a core principle like ‘Focus Wisely’ into the company culture and product development process, enabling executives and teams to make difficult ’no’ decisions and prioritize delivering the highest quality product for target customers.

5. Manage Strategic Focus Shift

Implementing a narrower product focus requires a significant cultural shift across people, processes, and product, especially when transitioning from a broad product-led growth model to a more targeted sales-led approach.

6. Allocate Resources by Strategic Horizons

Allocate product resources across different strategic horizons (e.g., Horizon 1 for immediate needs, Horizon 2 for mid-term growth, Horizon 3 for long-term vision) and adjust percentages over time to align with evolving strategic priorities.

7. Commit to Phased Product Planning

Break down product development into distinct phases (discovery, solutioning, build, launch/measure/iterate) and commit to dates only for the work that is immediately within control, avoiding premature commitments for distant projects.

8. Document Multi-Layered Strategy

Maintain a multi-layered strategy documentation system, including a high-level 3-year company strategy (docs/slides), annual product team OKRs (docs/slides), and project-level templates for feature development (e.g., in Confluence).

9. Leverage Sales for Customer Insight

Product teams should view sales and go-to-market teams as a valuable asset for gaining customer empathy and understanding, as they interact with significantly more customers and can provide crucial insights for product decisions.

10. Structure Product Teams by Persona/Problem

Organize product teams around specific personas or problem areas, such as a ‘Core’ team for end-user features and growth, an ‘Enterprise’ team for IT admins and departmental leaders, and a ‘Platform’ team for integrations and APIs.

11. Integrate Product & Design Leadership

Having product and design functions report into a single leader (e.g., CPO) can ensure a more holistic approach to the end-to-end user experience, integrating problem prioritization with solution delivery.

12. Facilitate PM Problem Debate (OPA)

Implement ‘Opportunity/Problem Assessment’ (OPA) meetings where product managers can frequently debate, discuss, and spar with each other on problem spaces, research findings, and solution approaches, fostering open feedback without leadership presence.

13. Conduct Competitive War Gaming

Organize competitive war gaming sessions where teams are assigned to ‘own’ a competitor for a period, immersing themselves in the competitor’s product, conducting SWOT analysis, and presenting insights to inform company strategy.

14. Reinforce Focus Through Documentation

Reinforce the ‘Focus Wisely’ principle through all documentation, templates (e.g., OPA, PRD), and product review processes, consistently prompting teams to identify the target customer, their needs, and how the solution addresses them.

15. Ask “Why” to Build Scalable Solutions

When engaging with customers, focus on asking the right questions to understand the underlying ‘why’ behind their requests, enabling the development of scalable solutions that meet broader customer needs while preserving the end-user experience.

16. Apply Consumer Product Principles

Apply consumer product development principles, such as funnel optimization, building growth as a discipline, and using data and A/B testing for decision-making, even in businesses that blend product-led and sales-led growth.

17. Hire Inbound-Focused Sales Reps Initially

When transitioning from product-led growth (PLG) to sales-led growth (SLG), initially hire sales reps with an inbound-focused background who are adept at working with proactive leads and product-qualified leads (PQLs), rather than heavy outbound hunters.

18. Match Sales Reps to Target Buyer

Ensure early sales hires match the target buyer profile, focusing on those experienced in selling to departmental heads (e.g., head of sales, recruiting) rather than IT or CIOs, as the buyer persona evolves with company scale.

19. Identify Growth Levers from Customer Usage

Continuously observe how customers are using the product to identify organic ‘pull’ towards new use cases (e.g., teams collaborating) that can inform the next major growth curve, rather than solely relying on speculative feature development.

20. Leverage Early Connections for Growth

For early user acquisition, leverage existing connections, even those through contractors building your product, and consider offering a free tier to reduce friction and encourage viral adoption, especially if the product offers a superior experience.

21. Formal Product Management Entry

Consider applying to Associate Product Manager (APM) programs at scaled companies (e.g., Google, Meta) or even smaller, earlier-stage companies. Alternatively, apply directly to junior PM roles via internal job boards if already working in a product-adjacent function.

22. Informal Product Management Entry

Seek opportunities to shadow or partner closely with a product manager, offering to take on some product-related work. Participate in subject matter expert (SME) programs that pair go-to-market functions with product squads. Another path is joining an early-stage startup where roles are often fluid, allowing you to try product management.

23. Cultivate PM Success Traits

To increase chances of transitioning into product management, demonstrate curiosity, passion for the product and solving customer problems, and consider tinkering with side projects to hone PM skills.

24. Discover APM Programs

To find open Associate Product Manager roles, search for ‘Associate Product Manager’ on job boards like Glassdoor.

25. Engage with CPO Support Communities

For Chief Product Officers and product leaders, engage with communities like ‘Skip’ to gather advice, manage challenges, discuss career growth, and network with peers in similar roles. Follow the Skip community on LinkedIn for more information.

26. Send Calendly Without Awkwardness

When sending a Calendly link, first offer the recipient to share their availability or choose a time from your calendar. Additionally, use the ‘add times to email’ feature to reduce friction by embedding available slots directly in the email.

strategy is really just an integrated set of choices that outline how you're going to win in whatever marketplace you choose, right?

Annie Pearl

The ability to say no is going to allow you to make sure you're building something that's going to be amazing for the people that matter most and not something that's going to be average or OK for a lot of different people.

Annie Pearl

70% of our signups come through that viral loop that you referred to.

Annie Pearl

Sales and sort of the go-to-market teams in general could be your biggest asset to helping you get your job done well.

Annie Pearl

The raw or the answer in terms of how bad it was and why, the better.

Annie Pearl

Sending a Calendly Invite Without Awkwardness

Annie Pearl
  1. Open the door for the recipient to share their availability first, e.g., 'Feel free to share your availability or use my Calendly link.'
  2. Utilize Calendly's 'add times to email' option to paste specific available times directly into your email, reducing friction for the recipient.

Calendly's Product Development Lifecycle

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  1. Discovery: Research a problem space to understand it, with a general sense of when this effort will conclude.
  2. Solutioning: Explore and user-test different solutions for the identified problem to land on one, committing to this phase's completion.
  3. Build: Develop the chosen solution, with a date for delivery estimated from an engineering perspective.
  4. Launch, Measure, and Iterate: Release the product, track its performance, and make improvements based on data.
150
Company size when Annie Pearl joined Approximately two years prior to the podcast recording.
600
Current company size Approximately at the time of the podcast recording.
15
Product team size (PMs, designers, research) when Annie Pearl joined Approximately two years prior to the podcast recording.
60
Current product team size (PMs, designers, research) Approximately at the time of the podcast recording.
20
Current number of Product Managers (PMs) Estimated number within the product team.
70%
Percentage of Calendly signups from viral loop Users signing up after receiving a Calendly link.
99%
Percentage of ARR from Product-Led Growth (PLG) when Annie Pearl joined Two years prior, before scaling the sales team.
20%
Percentage of ARR from Sales-Led Growth (SLG) currently This is the fastest-growing segment of the business.
60 million
Glassdoor unique monthly users At the time Annie Pearl was CPO there.
23
Number of CPOs and Heads of Product in the Skip community The current size of the community.