Category creation and brand building | Barbra Gago (Pando, Miro, Greenhouse, Culture Amp)

Oct 27, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Barbara Gago, former CMO at Miro and VP of Marketing at Greenhouse, shares insights on creating new software categories, effective brand building and rebranding strategies, and the importance of developing opinionated software to solve systemic problems.

At a Glance
12 Insights
55m 47s Duration
14 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Barbra Gago's Career Background and Current Venture

Deciding Between Category Creation and Existing Markets

Defining a Product Category and Key Examples

Greenhouse's Failed Category Creation Attempt

Miro's Successful Visual Collaboration Category Creation

Tactics for Building a New Product Category

Navigating the Middle Ground of Category Strategy

When and How to Rebrand a Product

Key Principles for Building a Lasting Global Brand

Integrating Company Values into Brand Identity

Process for Developing Company Values

Core Elements of a Product Brand

Understanding and Building Opinionated Software

Rationale for Pando's Opinionated Software Approach

Product Category

A product category is a grouping of products, typically found on directory sites like G2 Crowd or Software Advice, based on feature sets that solve a specific pain point or set of pain points. These categories often correspond to an allocated budget that customers have for such solutions.

Category Creation

Category creation is the strategic effort to define and establish a new market segment for a product. This process involves significant thought leadership, content marketing, and collaboration with industry analysts and directory sites to educate buyers and validate the unique value proposition of the new category.

Love Mark

A 'love mark' is a brand that people deeply love, are committed to, and feel invested in. Building a love mark requires authenticity and often involves fostering a strong emotional connection with users, going beyond just functional benefits.

Brand System

A brand system refers to a comprehensive and scalable approach to brand building, where all visual and auditory elements—such as the logo, colors, fonts, photography, illustrations, and brand voice—are designed to work together cohesively. This ensures consistency and adaptability across all customer touchpoints.

Opinionated Software

Opinionated software is a platform that integrates specific best practices or rules into its core design, thereby guiding or enforcing a particular way of behaving or performing work. Instead of offering complete flexibility, it provides a structured approach, often aimed at improving processes or reducing bias, as seen in Atlassian's tools for agile workflows or Greenhouse's structured recruiting.

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What is a product category in the B2B SaaS space?

A product category is how products are grouped on directory sites (like G2 Crowd) based on feature sets that solve specific pain points, for which customers typically have an allocated budget.

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When should a company consider creating a new product category?

Category creation is often suitable when a product's scope is much larger than existing categories, when there's a new disruptive technology, or when an existing category carries too much disdain (though this can also lead to failure). It's less about a raw percentage of companies and more about market inflection points.

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What are the key indicators that attempting category creation might fail?

It might fail if customers continue to use existing category terms to describe your product despite your efforts, if you're already well-established in an existing category, or if your product isn't truly differentiated from others in your space.

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When is it a good time for a company to rebrand?

It's often best to rebrand once a company has achieved product-market fit and is entering a scale phase, but before too much investment has been made in the existing brand. The sooner the better, especially if the current name or brand doesn't reflect the product's full potential or future aspirations.

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How can company values influence a brand?

Company values can deeply shape how a brand manifests, influencing the language used, visual elements (colors, objects), and how employees interact with customers and partners, making the brand more authentic and human.

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What is the benefit of building opinionated software?

Opinionated software integrates best practices or rules into the system, guiding users towards better ways of working, reducing bias, and solving systemic problems, such as Greenhouse's structured recruiting or Pando's approach to performance reviews.

1. Prioritize Brand & Product Together

Build product and brand in tandem from early stages, as both are crucial for customer acquisition, loyalty, and engagement. A great product needs a thoughtful brand, and a great brand needs a strong product.

2. Integrate Values into Brand

Weave company values into the brand’s DNA to ensure authenticity and consistent manifestation across all touchpoints and employee interactions, as values are foundational to how people behave and interact.

3. Consider Category Creation

Explore creating a new category if your product’s scope is too small for your ambition, if there’s no existing budget for your solution, or if you truly don’t fit into existing categories. This strategy is most effective during market inflection points or when introducing disruptive technology.

4. Treat Rebranding as Product

Approach rebranding with a structured, agile, and transparent process, similar to product development, involving the entire company and gathering customer feedback. This ensures broad alignment and buy-in across the organization.

5. Customer Insights Drive Strategy

Base all marketing, positioning, and category creation efforts on extensive conversations with customers to deeply understand their pain points, how they solve problems, and the language they use. This direct feedback is the source of effective positioning.

6. Engage Analysts for Validation

Build relationships with industry analysts (e.g., Gartner, Forrester) and directory sites (e.g., G2 Crowd) to explain and differentiate your new category. These entities play a critical role in shaping customer perception and validating new categories.

7. Use Content & PR for Education

Leverage content marketing, thought leadership, and PR to educate buyers about a new category, its unique value propositions, and why they should allocate budget for it. This helps generate appetite and understanding for the new space.

8. Maintain Existing Category Positioning

If building a new category, continue to optimize and sell into relevant existing categories in parallel to capture immediate budget and market share. This allows for a long-tail strategy where you gradually shift mindsets while still operating within established markets.

9. Rebrand Early & Strategically

Rebrand before significant scale, ideally once product-market fit is established, if the current name limits growth or doesn’t reflect the product’s full potential. The sooner you rebrand, the less investment is wasted on an unscalable brand.

10. Retain Brand Essence in Rebrand

When rebranding, subtly nod to the original brand’s essence (e.g., colors, key elements) to maintain connection with early adopters and existing customers. This helps transition the user base without alienating loyal users.

11. Structure Company Value Definition

For company values, use a structured workshop format (brain dump, group, vote) to gather input from the team, then assign a skilled writer to draft concise, non-generic definitions. This ensures broad input while maintaining clarity and memorability.

12. Build Opinionated Software

Develop software that enforces best practices or a ‘better way’ of working, especially to address systemic issues, biases, or lack of technology in existing processes. This approach provides clear guidance and improves outcomes for users.

Ultimately, you're not building a category until there is competition. Like it's not officially actually a category until there's more companies that do that.

Barbra Gago

The product and the brand are the main things that will get customers and keep them and also keep them loyal and engaged. So I think you have to have both. You can't have one or the other.

Barbra Gago

The best way to kind of incorporate your brand and how people are interacting with people that you are selling to customers or whoever, partners, is to have those values incorporated. Because then it's every touch point isn't something that you have to train people.

Barbra Gago

Everybody hates it, but I like asking like what someone's top 10 accomplishments are.

Barbra Gago

Developing Company Values

Barbra Gago
  1. Conduct a workshop where everybody brain dumps their ideas around values.
  2. Group the ideas into themes.
  3. Vote on the most important themes.
  4. Have someone who knows how to write well come up with the first draft of definitions for the shortlisted values/operating principles.
  5. Gather feedback on the drafted definitions.
a million users
Miro user base at rebrand when Barbra Gago joined Miro, before the rebrand from Real-Time Board.
a couple million in revenue
Miro revenue at rebrand when Barbra Gago joined Miro, before the rebrand from Real-Time Board.
end of October to March
Miro rebrand timeline timeframe for naming process kickoff to public launch at South by Southwest.
48 hours
Miro domain acquisition window before the public launch event at South by Southwest, Miro.com domain was acquired.