What world-class GTM looks like in 2026 | Jeanne DeWitt Grosser (Vercel, Stripe, Google)

Nov 30, 2025 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Jean Grosser, COO at Vercel and former CBO at Stripe, discusses building world-class go-to-market teams. She shares insights on leveraging AI for sales, treating GTM as a product, effective segmentation, and fostering strong collaboration between sales, product, and engineering.

At a Glance
18 Insights
1h 26m Duration
16 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Defining Go-to-Market (GTM) and its Scope

Evolution of GTM Roles and Consultative Selling

The Rise of the Go-to-Market Engineer

Automating Sales Workflows with AI Agents

Defining Sales Development Representatives (SDRs) and Account Executives (AEs)

When to Hire a GTM Engineer and First Salesperson

Profile of an Ideal Go-to-Market Engineer

Leveraging Gong with AI Agents for Sales Insights

Changing Calculus of Building vs. Buying GTM Tools

Thinking About Go-to-Market as a Product

Effective Go-to-Market Tactics and Unique Insights

Understanding Customer Buying Motivations: Pain vs. Upside

Primer on Segmentation Strategies

Building a Sales Organization that Engineers Respect

Thoughts on Product-Led Growth (PLG) and Pricing Strategy

Hot Takes on Sales Compensation and Hiring Profiles

Go-to-Market (GTM)

GTM encompasses any function that touches a customer or makes a dollar, including marketing, sales, technical sales, customer success, support, and partnerships. It's viewed as an integrated lifecycle, moving away from hyper-specialization towards a holistic orchestration of the customer journey.

Go-to-Market Engineer (GTM Eng)

A technical role that applies engineering prowess to GTM functions, building tools and AI agents to automate workflows, improve data utilization, and scale personalized customer experiences. This role aims to increase efficiency and allow human sellers to focus on deeper customer interactions.

Project Rosalind

An early (2017) initiative at Stripe to create a massive company database, mapping every company on the planet with attributes to enable highly targeted and personalized outbound prospecting emails. It was challenging to implement without AI but is now feasible with AI's capabilities.

Deal Bot / Lost Bot

AI agents built using sales call transcripts (e.g., from Gong) and other interaction data to analyze sales processes. The 'Lost Bot' identifies true reasons for lost opportunities, while the 'Deal Bot' provides real-time insights to sales teams, diagnosing GTM process 'bugs' and suggesting improvements.

Segmentation

The process of categorizing the market into distinct groups of companies based on attributes like size, growth potential, business model, website traffic, or workload type. This helps tailor sales strategies, content, and product development to specific customer needs and buying behaviors.

Go-to-Market as a Product

A mental model that views the entire customer buying journey—from initial awareness to long-term retention—as a series of unique, human, and personalized experiences. This approach aims to differentiate a company not just by its product, but by the quality and design of its sales and customer interactions.

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What does 'go-to-market' (GTM) mean?

GTM encompasses all functions that interact with a customer or generate revenue, including marketing, sales, technical sales, customer success, support, and partnerships, ideally integrated into a cohesive customer lifecycle.

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How has go-to-market changed in recent years?

GTM has become more consultative due to consumption-based models and AI, requiring deeper customer understanding and leaning into 'the art of the possible,' leading to roles like forward-deployed engineering and the GTM engineer.

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What is a Go-to-Market (GTM) engineer and what do they do?

A GTM engineer brings technical prowess to GTM, building tools and AI agents to automate workflows like outbound prospecting or lead qualification, aiming to increase sales efficiency and allow human sellers to focus on customer interaction.

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How quickly can AI agents be built for GTM functions?

AI agents for GTM can be built very rapidly; for example, a lead agent at Vercel took one GTM engineer about six weeks (25-30% of their time), and a lost opportunity bot took only two days.

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What is the difference between an SDR and an AE?

An SDR (Sales Development Representative) is typically responsible for generating pipeline by prospecting and qualifying leads, while an AE (Account Executive) is a closer whose job is to take an interested prospect through the sales process to a signed deal.

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When should a company hire its first salesperson?

Founders should typically wait until they have around $1 million in ARR and a repeatable sales process, with a clear ideal customer profile (ICP), before hiring their first dedicated salesperson.

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What is the ideal profile for a Go-to-Market engineer?

The ideal GTM engineer often has prior go-to-market experience, such as a sales engineer with a technical background, as they understand both the technical aspects and the nuances of effective sales processes.

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How can AI be used with sales tools like Gong?

AI agents can analyze Gong call transcripts and other sales interactions to perform tasks like lost opportunity reviews, identify reasons for wins/losses, provide real-time insights to sales teams, and diagnose 'bugs' in the GTM process.

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Why should companies think about go-to-market as a product?

When technical product differentiation narrows, the customer's buying experience becomes a key differentiator; treating GTM as a product means designing a unique, human, and personalized journey for the customer at every touchpoint.

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What are effective go-to-market tactics?

Effective tactics include bringing unique insights to customers about their suboptimal state, investing in detailed implementation guides (like 'well-architected guides'), and practicing excellent discovery by listening more and asking probing questions rather than immediately problem-solving.

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What is the primary motivation for customers to buy?

Approximately 80% of customers buy to avoid pain or reduce risk, rather than to gain upside, especially in enterprise settings where the focus is on avoiding negative outcomes like missing revenue targets or brand damage.

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How should companies approach segmentation?

Segmentation involves carving up the market based on attributes that influence buying behavior (e.g., company size, growth potential, business model, website traffic, workload type) to tailor sales strategies and content, and it should be a company-wide strategy, not just a GTM function.

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How can a sales organization build trust with engineers and product teams?

A sales organization builds trust by having deep product knowledge (so AEs can be mistaken for PMs), acting as an extension of the product management org by discerning and feeding customer signal into the roadmap, and thinking like general managers focused on building the business.

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What are the key considerations for Product-Led Growth (PLG)?

PLG is highly relevant for many products, especially those targeting startups, but it typically has a ceiling for deal size; companies often get stuck if they wait too long to layer in a sales-assisted or sales-led motion to sustain growth.

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What are some tips for pricing strategy?

Pricing should be treated like a product, aligning value delivery with cost incurrence, avoiding underpricing, and carefully considering freemium strategies (e.g., Stripe Billings killed its free trial after realizing integration effort meant commitment).

1. Build Sales Org with Product Depth

Cultivate a sales organization where account executives possess incredible product depth, making them indistinguishable from product managers to engineers. This fosters credibility with product and engineering teams and enables sales to act as an R&D extension by translating customer feedback into valuable roadmap signal.

2. Treat Go-To-Market as a Product

Design the customer buying journey like a product, focusing on creating unique, human, and personalized experiences rather than transactional interactions. This differentiation becomes crucial when technical product differences narrow, driving buying decisions based on how customers feel about being sold to.

3. Leverage AI for Sales Automation

Utilize AI agents to automate rote sales tasks like research, follow-ups, and initial prospecting, aiming for salespeople to spend 70% of their time interacting with humans. This increases efficiency and allows sales teams to focus on deeper customer engagement.

4. Keep Human in AI Sales Loop

Implement AI agents for sales workflows with a ‘human in the loop’ approach, especially for critical tasks like lead qualification and crafting responses. Have humans review and send AI-generated outreach to ensure brand consistency and quality, while using agent feedback for continuous improvement.

5. Diagnose GTM Process with AI

Use AI agents to analyze Gong transcripts and other interactions to diagnose ‘bugs’ in your go-to-market process, such as poor objection handling or common sticking points. Run regular sprints to address these identified issues with new content, discovery guides, or demo changes.

6. Focus on Risk Reduction for Buyers

Understand that 80% of customers buy to avoid pain or reduce risk, rather than to increase upside. Frame your sales narrative around de-risking potential negative outcomes for enterprises and helping customers avoid not making revenue targets or being outdone by competitors.

7. Implement Collaborative Discovery Sessions

Replace traditional discovery calls with collaborative whiteboarding sessions where customers draw their architecture. This approach helps you learn about their stack and challenges, while providing customers with a valuable asset and a sense of partnership.

8. Add Value at Every Touchpoint

Strive to add value to customers at every touchpoint, even if they don’t buy immediately. Providing unique insights or helpful information builds trust and ensures that customers may return for future buying cycles.

9. Invest in Data for Unique Insights

Invest in data to uncover unique insights about a prospect’s current performance or suboptimal state. Share these data-driven insights immediately to pique interest, demonstrate value, and establish your company as a trusted, knowledgeable resource.

10. Create Well-Architected Guides

Beyond basic documentation, develop ‘well-architected guides’ or blueprints that outline best practices for implementing your product within specific customer setups. This is especially valuable for larger companies seeking detailed implementation guidance.

11. Practice Excellent Discovery Skills

Master the art of discovery by talking less than half the time in conversations, asking probing questions, and employing techniques like ‘five whys’ to go deep. Help customers arrive at conclusions on their own rather than immediately problem-solving.

12. Develop a Company-Wide Segmentation

Establish a clear segmentation framework that is understood across the entire company, not just go-to-market. This ensures product managers build with specific customer profiles in mind, aligning product and GTM strategies.

13. Use Data to Define Segmentation

Define your market segmentation by analyzing data to identify customer attributes that correlate with high revenue potential and repeated success. This helps you cluster winning customers and understand where your product resonates most effectively.

14. Build a General Manager Sales Org

Foster a sales organization that thinks like general managers, focused on building the business rather than just closing deals. This means understanding when to say no to feature requests and discerning market opportunities from mere objections.

15. Think About Pricing Like a Product

Approach pricing as a product, deeply understanding where customers derive value and where your company incurs costs. Align these factors smartly to avoid underpricing and ensure optimal revenue outcomes and customer experience.

16. Strategize Freemium Carefully

Do not default to a freemium strategy without a clear, intentional purpose. Evaluate if a free tier genuinely drives conversion or if the product’s integration effort means users are likely to stay regardless, potentially making a free trial unnecessary.

17. Diversify Sales Team Hiring

Build a diversified sales team by combining experienced salespeople with individuals from non-traditional backgrounds like consulting or banking. This mix fosters a richer learning environment where different skill sets (e.g., quantitative analysis, P&L understanding) are shared and developed.

18. Embrace ‘No’ as Data

Get comfortable with receiving ’no’ in sales, viewing it as valuable data rather than a setback. Use this information to understand why a deal was lost and inform future strategies or product improvements.

80% of customers buy to avoid pain or reduce risk as opposed to increase upside, which is a good thing for startup founders to understand.

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser

The experience that you have of being sold to will increasingly actually differentiate a company and drive buying decisions if products are only different at the margin.

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser

The litmus test I have always given my sales team is if you are an account executive in my org and I put you in front of 10 engineers at our company, it should take them 10 minutes to figure out you aren't a product manager.

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser

No one, like, graduated from college and was like, yes, I just went to college for four years to become an SDR. It was more, okay, that's where you are forced to start.

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser

Company strategy is basically product strategy meets go to market strategy, right?

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser

Yeses are great, no's are great, maybe they'll kill you.

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Building an AI Agent for GTM Workflows

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser
  1. Have a GTM engineer shadow the highest-performing individual in the target function (e.g., SDR) to understand their human workflow, including tools and research methods.
  2. Encode the observed workflow into an agent, using code that is both deterministic and less so, to replicate human actions.
  3. Start with workflows that are legible (can be written down, relatively replicable, mostly deterministic) for initial agent development.
  4. Implement a 'human in the loop' review process where the agent makes calls (e.g., lead qualification) and crafts responses, but a human reviews and sends them.
  5. Continuously train the agent by incorporating feedback from human rejections or edits.
  6. Track key performance indicators (KPIs) (e.g., lead to opportunity conversion, number of touches, time to convert) to ensure the agent performs as well as or better than humans.
  7. Once confident in the agent's performance, redeploy human staff to higher-value tasks.
  8. For ongoing improvement, run the agent across calls and interactions to diagnose 'bugs' in the GTM process (e.g., objection handling, getting stuck) and then run sprints to address these issues with new content or demo changes.

Go-to-Market Strategy for Startups (Founder-Led to First Salesperson)

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  1. As a founder, stay deeply connected to customers and lead sales until you reach a significant scale (e.g., $1 million ARR) with some repeatability.
  2. Ensure you have a clear Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) that can be written down, indicating where your product fits best (e.g., 'startups with less than 100 employees building SaaS applications').
  3. Document your effective sales practices, content, discovery questions, and objection handling strategies to transition knowledge.
  4. When hiring the first salesperson, empower them by handing over the reins, but founders should remain connected to customers for R&D insights and to understand scaling challenges.
  5. Consider bringing in revenue operations or GTM engineering earlier than traditionally thought to establish data-driven processes and leverage AI from the outset.

Building a Sales Org that Engineers Respect

Jeanne DeWitt Grosser
  1. Set a high bar for product depth: Salespeople should be so knowledgeable about the product that engineers struggle to differentiate them from product managers.
  2. Recruit individuals who can think like general managers, focused on building the business, not just closing deals.
  3. Cultivate the sales org as an extension of the product management team, translating customer feedback into actionable signal for the roadmap.
  4. Develop the ability to discern true market opportunities from individual objections that can be overcome.
  5. Foster a culture where sales leaders lean into product and pricing strategy, understanding how these align with revenue goals.
  6. Diversify sales hiring profiles by pairing experienced salespeople with individuals from non-traditional backgrounds (e.g., consulting, banking) to enrich learning and analytical capabilities.
80%
Customer buying motivation (avoid pain/reduce risk) Percentage of customers who buy to avoid pain or reduce risk, as opposed to increasing upside.
30-40%
Salesperson time spent in front of customers Historical average percentage of time salespeople spend interacting with customers.
25-30%
GTM engineer's time spent building lead agent Portion of one GTM engineer's time dedicated to building the lead agent.
6 weeks
Time to build lead agent Duration for one GTM engineer to build the lead agent to a confident stage.
2 days (40 hours)
Time to build lost bot Duration to build the initial lost bot version.
$1,000
Annual cost to run lead agent Estimated cost to run the lead agent full stack on Vercel for an entire year.
10 to 1
Reduction in SDRs for inbound workflow Number of SDRs reduced for inbound workflow after implementing an AI agent, with the remaining nine redeployed to outbound.
78%
Stripe's penetration in Forbes AI50 Percentage of Forbes AI50 companies using Stripe.
More than half
Stripe's penetration in Fortune 100 Portion of Fortune 100 companies using Stripe.
1 gigabyte
Gmail's initial storage capacity (2004) Gmail's storage capacity at launch, which was a full year ahead of competitors.