CEO Diaries: The Brutal Mistake That Almost Crippled Snapchat!

Jun 4, 2025
Overview

Evan Spiegel, CEO and co-founder of Snapchat, discusses the critical importance of hiring and culture in business. He shares insights on early hiring mistakes, the values of kindness, smarts, and creativity, and the significance of T-shaped leadership and rapid course correction for company growth.

At a Glance
9 Insights
15m 55s Duration
9 Topics
2 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

The Paramount Importance of Early Hiring

Hiring Mistakes: Over-indexing on Wrong Experience

Snapchat's Core Values: Kind, Smart, and Creative

Distinguishing Between Kindness and Niceness

Leadership Behavior: The T-Shaped Leader

Applying Leadership Principles to All Employees

Advice for Early Founders: Focus on Fixing Mistakes

Challenges of Scaling Company Culture Rapidly

Re-establishing and Clarifying Core Values

T-shaped Leadership

T-shaped leadership describes individuals with deep expertise in a specific area (the vertical bar of the 'T') combined with a broad understanding of the overall business and the ability to connect with diverse people and viewpoints (the horizontal bar). This allows leaders to apply their specialized knowledge across various functional areas to drive impact effectively.

Kindness vs. Niceness

Kindness involves genuinely wanting to help someone, which often means providing direct, constructive feedback even if it's uncomfortable, to foster their growth and success. Niceness, in contrast, is about avoiding awkwardness and making someone feel good without necessarily addressing underlying issues or helping them improve.

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How important is hiring in the early days of a company?

Hiring is everything; the initial team members, especially engineers, often bring diverse creative talents that are crucial for a company aspiring to be creative.

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What common hiring mistakes did Snapchat make in its early days?

Snapchat sometimes over-indexed on the wrong types of experience, such as hiring leaders from much larger companies for a small team, or bringing in people with specific domain expertise who lacked open-mindedness and adaptability to Snapchat's unique approach.

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What are Snapchat's core values for employees?

Snapchat's three core values are kind, smart, and creative, with kindness being essential for fostering a creative and supportive culture where people feel safe to share ideas.

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Does Snapchat expect everyone to be a 'T-shaped leader'?

Yes, Snapchat applies the concept of T-shaped leadership broadly, believing that everyone is a leader and should strive for both deep expertise and broad understanding to drive impact.

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What advice would Evan Spiegel give to his younger self as an early founder?

He would advise that 'everything's going to be okay' and to focus more on quickly fixing mistakes and adapting when new information arises, rather than being overly focused on making the 'right' decision initially.

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How can founders overcome procrastination when dealing with difficult personnel decisions?

Often, if a founder is asking for advice about a struggling employee, they've already made up their mind; the key is to act on that realization and not be afraid to change direction quickly, even though it's hard.

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What challenges did Snapchat face in maintaining its culture as it scaled?

As Snapchat grew from 20 to 2000 people, it imported diverse cultures from other companies (e.g., Amazon, Google, Meta), leading to a loss of control over its unique culture.

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How did Snapchat address its cultural challenges during rapid growth?

Evan Spiegel took action to fix the culture by getting much clearer about the company's values (kind, smart, creative) and the specific behaviors attached to them, holding a higher bar for adherence to these unique cultural expectations.

1. Embrace Rapid Course Correction

Focus less on making perfect initial decisions and more on quickly changing your mind and fixing mistakes when new information arises, as this rapid feedback loop is crucial for early business growth.

2. Embed Core Values Early

Clearly articulate and embed your company’s core values and expected behaviors into the team’s DNA before significant scaling, to prevent culture dilution as new hires join.

3. Foster Kind, Creative Culture

Cultivate a culture of kindness where individuals feel safe to share “crazy ideas” and make mistakes without fear of ridicule, as this psychological safety is essential for creativity to flourish.

4. Give Direct, Kind Feedback

Differentiate between being “nice” (avoiding discomfort) and “kind” (genuinely helping someone grow) by providing direct, constructive feedback, even if awkward, to enable improvement.

5. Cultivate T-Shaped Leadership

Develop deep expertise in one area combined with a broad understanding of the overall business and the ability to connect across different functions, as this blend drives impact and inspires teams.

6. Build Breadth from Depth

If you possess deep expertise, actively engage with people and departments outside your comfort zone to build broader understanding and curiosity, which is an effective way to become T-shaped.

7. Hire for Adaptability

When hiring, prioritize candidates who are open-minded and curious, willing to adapt their prior experience and perspective to new contexts rather than rigidly applying old solutions.

8. Seek Interdisciplinary Talent

Look for individuals who appreciate and can combine different disciplines (e.g., engineering and design), as the cross-over between these areas often generates significant innovation and “magic.”

9. Act Promptly on Known Issues

If you intuitively know something isn’t working (e.g., a bad hire), trust that gut feeling and act quickly to address the issue rather than procrastinating out of fear.

I think sometimes people are too focused on making the right decision and not as focused on fixing it if they're wrong.

Evan Spiegel

Unless you have that sort of supportive culture, it's very hard to be creative.

Evan Spiegel

If you just want to be nice, you pretend nothing's going on and you just say, oh, you know, nice to meet you or whatever. But if you're really being kind and you want to help that person, you say, you know, you've got something stuck in your teeth.

Evan Spiegel

It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

Evan Spiegel

If you're not into the kind, smart, creative thing, that's okay. There are other companies with different cultures, but, you know, that really matters to us here.

Evan Spiegel
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Size of team an early engineering leader came from at Amazon This leader then joined a team of 8 at Snapchat.
8
Size of the team at Snapchat that the Amazon leader joined Snapchat was thinking ahead about scaling.
10 years ago
Time period when kindness at work was not a common topic Evan Spiegel notes this in the context of Snapchat's early values.
10 or 20 people
Initial team size where leadership values were less formally considered Focus was more on survival than formal leadership characteristics.
20 people to 2000 people
Scale of growth that led to cultural challenges at Snapchat This rapid growth led to importing diverse company cultures.