How To Chase Your Dreams Without Fear Holding You Back with Fran Millar

Feb 8, 2021
Overview

Fran, former CEO of Team Ineos and current CEO of Bellstaff, shares her journey through elite sports and fashion. She discusses navigating challenges, identity shifts, leadership in male-dominated industries, and finding purpose beyond traditional life paths.

At a Glance
20 Insights
1h 23m Duration
14 Topics
4 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Fran Millar's Brother and the Cycling Doping Scandal

Impact of the Doping Scandal on Fran and Her Family

The Concept of Being a 'Difficult Woman' in Business

Developing Confidence and Assertiveness in Professional Life

Balancing Directness with Compassion in Feedback

Transitioning from Cycling to Fashion: Identity and Change

The 'Winning Behaviors' Role at Team Sky

Key Qualities and Mindset of Sir Dave Brailsford

The Nuance of Hard Work and 'Hard Pleasure'

Personal Choices: Relationships, Family, and Societal Pressure

Confronting Mortality and Living a Life Without Regrets

Leading Belstaff Amidst Retail Challenges and COVID-19

The Evolving Landscape of Retail and Experiential Shopping

Future Outlook and the Role of Money in Fran's Life

Chimp Paradox

A mental model by Professor Steve Peters which suggests that while it's natural to have emotional responses (the 'chimp'), one must learn to manage these emotions and know when to remove oneself from a high-performance environment rather than letting them dictate behavior.

Radical Candor

A communication framework that balances caring personally with challenging directly. It posits that it's better to be brutally honest (even if perceived as an 'arrogant asshole') than to be empathetically dishonest, as honesty, even harsh, allows for development.

Winning Behaviors

A codified set of expected actions and attitudes for an organization, designed to eradicate 'losing behaviors' like backstabbing or not buying into collective decisions. It provides parameters for team members to perform at their best and ensures alignment with the team's mission.

Foreboding Joy

A concept describing the tendency to anticipate negative outcomes during moments of happiness or excitement. Instead of fully experiencing joy, individuals worry about what could go wrong, thereby diminishing the positive experience.

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What was the impact of the doping scandal on Fran Millar's brother, David?

David Millar, a talented cyclist, entered the sport in 1998 during the EPO era and quickly realized doping was endemic. He resisted for a long time but eventually succumbed, leading to him becoming a 'damaged, incredibly sad, deeply, deeply shamed young man' and a 'social pariah' after his arrest.

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How did the doping scandal affect Fran Millar personally and professionally?

Fran felt responsible for not intervening, experienced the family divisions it created, and personally felt the shame and judgment as 'the sister of this shamed cheating lying horrible human being.' It impacted all her decisions, eventually leading her to stop representing him professionally.

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Why is it important for women in business to be 'difficult' or assertive?

Women are often judged differently for behaviors seen as normal in men, with assertiveness labeled as 'chippy' or confidence as 'arrogance.' It's crucial for young women to be themselves, confident, and willing to challenge norms without filtering their true selves, while still maintaining politeness and manners.

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How does Fran Millar balance direct and honest feedback with compassion?

Fran believes honesty is crucial but being a 'dickhead' is unacceptable. Drawing from Steve Peters' advice, she emphasizes compassion and sensitivity, understanding that a positive response is more likely if feedback is delivered kindly, even if the message itself is difficult.

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How did Fran Millar overcome the challenge of changing careers after decades in one industry?

Fran initially felt her identity was tied to her cycling job, but a conversation with Steve Peters helped her realize a job is just a job. The transition, though traumatic, quickly showed her that her identity remained intact, and she found new fulfillment in her new role at Belstaff.

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What were some 'losing behaviors' identified at Team Sky?

Losing behaviors included losing control of emotions, being aggressive or arrogant, not recognizing when one was too emotional for a high-performance environment, not buying into collective team opinions, and backstabbing or criticizing teammates behind their backs.

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What are the key qualities that made Sir Dave Brailsford successful?

Dave Brailsford is described as a brilliant man manager, incredibly visionary, very brave, unrelenting, and an incredible leader. He possesses a ferocious appetite for learning, an unrelenting work ethic, and sets incredibly high standards, expecting people to meet them, while also being compassionately ruthless.

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What is Fran Millar's perspective on 'hard work' and 'work-life balance'?

Fran believes in working hard with purpose and passion, referring to it as 'hard pleasure.' She rejects the idea of a work-life balance, stating her work is her life and she makes no excuses for it, finding it fulfilling and challenging, but still allows for personal time.

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How does Fran Millar view relationships and societal pressure to conform?

Fran has never been motivated to have a partner or children, finding fulfillment in her work and close friendships. She actively resisted societal pressures to marry and have kids, valuing her freedom and choosing a 'life less ordinary,' though she acknowledges the human need for connection through her 'tribe' of friends.

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What is Fran Millar's strategy for leading Belstaff amidst the challenges of COVID-19 and a changing retail landscape?

Fran's initial strategy involved spending three months listening and understanding the business and industry. Her plan is to do the best possible job, believing in Belstaff's brand and product, aiming for profitability, and building foundations for growth, while acknowledging the acceleration of online shopping and the need for experiential retail.

1. Separate Identity From Job

Do not let your job define your entire identity or self-worth, as it is just one part of your life. Recognize that your core self remains constant, regardless of your professional role.

2. Practice Radical Candor

Prioritize honesty in feedback, even if it risks being perceived as blunt, because truthful feedback is essential for development. Malignant empathy (caring but not being honest) hinders growth more than direct truth.

3. Lead with Compassionate Ruthlessness

Set high standards and honestly communicate when individuals cannot meet them. It is kinder to help people find a more suitable environment than to let them continuously fail in a role not right for them.

4. Be Direct, Not a “Dickhead”

When delivering honest feedback, always prioritize compassion and sensitivity to ensure a positive response. Being direct and authentic is crucial, but it should never be an excuse to be unkind or aggressive.

5. Manage Emotions in High-Stakes Settings

Practice self-awareness to manage your emotions, especially in high-pressure environments. If you’re too emotional, step away from the situation to avoid negatively impacting team performance.

6. Ensure Team Cohesion & Buy-in

Foster strong team cohesion by ensuring everyone fully commits to collective decisions, even if they initially disagreed. Publicly undermining agreed-upon directions is a destructive “losing behavior.”

7. Work Hard with Purpose

Distinguish between mere busyness and working hard with purpose and passion. Embrace hard work when it’s driven by genuine enjoyment and a striving for achievement, rather than just long hours.

8. Embrace “Quitting” for New Starts

View “quitting” as an underrated skill that enables new beginnings and growth, rather than a failure. It’s often the necessary step before starting something new and potentially more successful.

9. Question Societal Pressures

Regularly question your motivations and actions to ensure they align with your authentic desires, not just societal expectations or peer pressure. Avoid doing things solely because others expect you to.

10. Cultivate a Positive Life Outlook

Make a conscious effort to cultivate a positive outlook on life, especially given its finite nature. Actively reframe challenges and focus on opportunities to enhance your overall experience.

11. Release Yourself from Expectations

Release yourself from the burden of excessive expectations by practicing “worst-case scenario” thinking. Recognize that most professional setbacks are not life-threatening, reducing anxiety and fostering freedom.

12. Avoid Foreboding Joy

Actively combat “foreboding joy” by consciously choosing to appreciate positive experiences in the present moment instead of dwelling on potential negative outcomes. This practice enhances enjoyment and reduces unnecessary worry.

13. Choose Your Environment Wisely

Be aware of the cultural environment you are in, as it heavily influences decision-making, especially for impressionable individuals. Actively seek environments that align with your values to avoid being led down paths you might regret.

14. Lead with Authentic Self

True self-expression in leadership isn’t limited to confidence or assertiveness; it means being honest about your authentic self, including insecurities or emotional aspects, and bringing that to the table.

15. Challenge Gendered Behavior Judgments

Young women should resist societal pressure to filter their behavior in professional settings and instead be authentic and confident. Balance assertiveness with politeness, distinguishing it from aggression.

16. Codify Organizational Behaviors

For sustained success, explicitly define and codify the behaviors and values that drive your organization. This creates a clear charter for team members, outlining expectations beyond just winning.

17. Listen & Learn in New Roles

When starting a new leadership role, dedicate the initial period (e.g., 100 days) to listening, learning from everyone, and observing before making any rash decisions or implementing changes.

18. Pursue a Life Less Ordinary

Actively seek to live a “life less ordinary” by forging your own path rather than conforming to conventional societal milestones and expectations.

19. Invest in Experiences, Not Things

View money as a tool to facilitate meaningful experiences with loved ones, rather than an end in itself. Prioritize investing in shared memories and relationships over accumulating material possessions.

20. Transform Retail into Experience

In the evolving retail landscape, focus on transforming physical stores into experiential hubs that offer unique brand stories and narratives, rather than just transactional spaces.

You will be whoever you go on to be. That's not going to change. You are still there. You're letting this thing influence all these views about yourself. You're letting it influence what you, your value, your worth, your, you know, your sort of substance, your contribution to life. Like you're, you're letting it's a job. It's like it's a job.

Steve Peters (as quoted by Fran Millar)

I think honesty can get veiled, sorry, being a dickhead can get veiled by I'm being honest, right? Like, well, I'm just being honest and it's feedback and you should take it. It's like one of the sort of best lessons I've ever been taught and one of the most influential people in my life by a mile is Steve Peters, um, who's a forensic psychiatrist, yeah, and he always says like you have to be compassionate.

Fran Millar

If you sit in a meeting room and you agree with something and you say yeah, okay, whilst I don't agree with it, I buy in, you know what I mean, I've given you my point of view, you've said it's not what the way we're going to go, but I buy in and then you walk out the room and you're like I don't fucking buy that, that is, that is one of the worst losing behaviors you can have because it's insidious and it goes around, you know, a whole organization can be destroyed by it, it's like a virus.

Fran Millar

I don't think it's possible to have it all. I really don't. I don't think you can have, and I know there are women who do and hats off to them, I think it's, you know, you read about these women in the city who've got like five kids and they're CEOs and it's like fair play to you, but I couldn't do that because I would feel constantly compromising and I don't like compromise.

Fran Millar

Fran, the only thing I can ask you to do is your best.

Jim Ratcliffe
1998
David Millar's age when he went pro He went pro in 1998, which was the 'Festina year' of the doping scandal.
4 years
Time it took David Millar to go from never riding a road bike to being courted by major teams From age 15 to 19.
24 years old
David Millar's age when he made the decision to dope Fran highlights his youth and impressionability at this time.
65%
Percentage of people in a Milgram-like study who would press a button to 'kill' someone Fran uses this to illustrate the human condition of following orders in a given environment.
18 years old
Fran Millar's age when she started her first business She quit this business at 21.
40 years old
Fran Millar's age when she was appointed CEO of Team INEOS She got down to 65 kilos for her 40th birthday.
12 years
Time Fran Millar spent at Team Sky/INEOS She worked her way up to CEO.
2010
Year Team Sky started racing They had started the journey of forming the team in 2008.
2012
Year Bradley Wiggins won the Tour de France Achieved within three years of the team's objective to win with a clean British rider in five years.
2013
Year Chris Froome won the Tour de France The year after Bradley Wiggins' win.
End of 2018
Year Sky announced they would cease sponsorship of the cycling team Leading to INEOS acquiring the team in February 2019.
5-6 weeks
Duration Fran Millar worked 18-hour days during the 1:59 project In the build-up to the test event and through the actual event.
2017
Year Belstaff was acquired It was making losses then.
October 1st
Date Fran Millar started as CEO of Belstaff She was enrolled two weeks after receiving the call about the opportunity.
42 years old
Fran Millar's age at the time of the podcast She notes the societal pressure for women to have kids drops after this age.