The Gender Expert: Men Are Emotionally Dependent On Women & We're Treating Them Like Malfunctioning Women! Richard Reeves

Jul 8, 2024
Overview

Richard Reeves, founder of the American Institute for Boys and Men, discusses the modern struggles of boys and men, including educational gaps, stagnating wages, and rising suicide rates. He explores how shifting gender roles have left men feeling unneeded and advocates for a new, positive script for masculinity that embraces gender equality while valuing men's unique contributions.

At a Glance
14 Insights
2h 5m Duration
18 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Motivation for Dedicating Career to Men's Issues

Background and Research Approach to Men's Challenges

Key Statistics Driving Research into Men's Issues

Current Cultural Revolution and Shifting Male Roles

Need for a Nuanced Approach to Modern Masculinity

Understanding Average Differences Between Men and Women

Unconscious Behaviors and Risk-Taking in Men

The Male Suicide Crisis: Statistics and Underlying Causes

The Fundamental Human Need to Be Needed

Loss of Community Connection and Institutional Structures

Changes in the Dating Environment and Impact of Apps

Marriage Trends and Its Benefits for Men

Critique of the Term 'Toxic Masculinity'

The Male Friendship Recession and Loneliness

The Men's Sheds Movement and Male Communication Styles

Personal Experience with Couples Therapy and Masculinity

Advice for Sons on Being a Man in the Modern World

Societal-Level Solutions for Addressing Men's Struggles

Overlapping Distribution

This concept describes how differences between groups, such as men and women, are typically not absolute but rather show a range where the averages differ, with significant overlap between the groups. It means that while one group might be 'more X on average,' individuals from the other group can still be 'more X' than many in the first group.

Patriarchy

A social system where virtues or attributes typically associated with masculinity are seen as inherently better or superior. In such a system, masculine traits are valued more highly than feminine ones.

Enforced Monogamy (Anthropological Term)

This term refers to a social system or norm, often backed by law (like bigamy being a crime), that requires individuals to have only one spouse, effectively being against polygamy. It does not imply forcing someone into marriage, but rather limiting marriage to a monogamous structure.

Toxic Masculinity (Critique)

Richard Reeves argues this term is 'toxic' itself and a 'gender slur,' often used too broadly and casually to describe male behavior one dislikes. He contends it struggles to define positive masculinity beyond traits synonymous with femininity, leaving an 'empty set' for constructive masculine attributes and alienating young men.

Mature Masculinity

An alternative concept to 'non-toxic masculinity' that emphasizes the positive development and expression of masculine traits. It is characterized by being 'for others,' serving the community, and generating a surplus of value rather than being self-serving or passive.

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Are men and women fundamentally different?

Yes, on average, men and women exhibit differences in traits like risk-taking, competitiveness, and emotional expression, which can be understood through the concept of 'overlapping distributions' rather than absolute distinctions.

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Why are male suicide rates increasing, especially among younger men?

Male suicide is increasing because many men feel 'useless and worthless,' a profound sense of being unneeded by family, employers, or community, which is exacerbated by societal changes that have made traditional male roles less clear.

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Does retirement increase mortality risk?

While not directly stating it increases mortality, the discussion suggests that losing the sense of being needed through a job, which retirement often entails, can contribute to feelings of being 'surplus to requirements,' potentially linking to mental health issues and a lack of purpose.

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How have dating apps impacted men?

Dating apps tend to create an extreme asymmetry where a small percentage of men receive most of the attention, leaving a large percentage of men with little to no interest, which can lead to feelings of being unwanted or unattractive.

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Is marriage more beneficial for men or women?

Currently, marriage appears to be more beneficial for men, showing huge positive impacts on their employment, earnings, physical and mental health, and life expectancy, much less so for women.

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What is the problem with the term 'toxic masculinity'?

Richard Reeves believes the term 'toxic masculinity' is a 'gender slur' that is unhelpful because it pathologizes male behavior, struggles to define positive masculinity, and alienates young men by suggesting their masculinity is inherently flawed.

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Why are men struggling to form friendships?

Men are experiencing a 'friendship recession' due to a decline in institutional structures that historically fostered connections, and because women often managed social arrangements, leaving men less skilled at initiating and maintaining friendships themselves.

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What is the most important step to address the struggles of boys and men at a societal level?

The most important step is for leaders and society to simply acknowledge the problems men face, express empathy, and communicate that men are seen, heard, and their struggles are taken seriously, without detracting from efforts for women and girls.

1. Acknowledge Men’s Struggles Publicly

Leaders and society should acknowledge men’s struggles, express empathy, and take their problems seriously without dismissal or pathologizing masculinity. This validates their experiences and creates a safe space for solutions, preventing problems from festering into grievances.

2. Cultivate a Sense of Being Needed

Recognize that feeling unneeded is a ‘fatal place’ for human beings, especially for men who often describe themselves as ‘useless’ or ‘worthless’ before suicide. Actively seek and create opportunities to contribute to family, community, and work to foster a deep sense of purpose and value.

3. Embrace Mature, Not Toxic, Masculinity

Reject the term ’toxic masculinity’ as a ‘gender slur’ that pathologizes male behavior without offering a clear positive alternative. Instead, focus on developing ‘mature masculinity,’ which involves being ‘for others,’ serving, and generating a surplus for the community.

4. Foster Shoulder-to-Shoulder Connection

Understand that men often communicate and bond more easily ‘shoulder to shoulder’ (doing an activity together) rather than ‘face to face.’ Utilize this insight for building and maintaining friendships, and consider it for therapeutic settings, like walking therapy.

5. Engage in Difficult, Data-Driven Conversations

Do not shy away from discussing challenging or polarizing topics, especially when they are important societal issues. Approach these conversations with a data-based, non-partisan, and nuanced perspective to foster genuine understanding and progress.

6. Respect Gender Differences as Equal Value

Acknowledge that men and women have average differences, understanding these as ‘overlapping distributions’ rather than absolutes, and treat them as equally valuable. An equal society values these differences without deeming one superior or inferior, rejecting the idea that equality requires androgyny.

7. Be a Real-Life Male Role Model

For young men, the most powerful antidote to negative online influences is a ‘real live man’ in their life. Show, don’t just tell, what mature and responsible masculinity looks like through your daily actions, interactions, and commitment to others.

8. Practice Agency, Grace, and Responsibility in Dating

Advise young men to have the courage to ask someone out (agency and risk-taking), the grace to accept ’no’ for an answer (no entitlement), and the responsibility to ensure the other person’s safety regardless of the outcome.

9. Adopt a Co-Provider Mindset in Relationships

In modern relationships, men should view themselves as co-providers of money, time, love, and energy, not just economic breadwinners. This approach supports women’s choices and ensures men remain engaged and needed within the family unit.

10. Prioritize Passionate and Purposeful Work

When choosing a career, prioritize finding work that you are passionate about, not just a high-earning job. Passion, agency, and verve in your work are fulfilling and make you more attractive to partners and employers alike.

11. Reinvent Community Contribution in Retirement

For older individuals, especially men, actively seek new ways to contribute to the community after retirement, such as volunteering or charity work. This helps maintain a sense of purpose and combat loneliness, which is a significant risk factor for older men.

12. Support Diverse Leadership Teams

In business, recognize that diverse leadership teams (e.g., with both men and women) can leverage average gender differences, such as men’s higher risk appetite and women’s greater stability, to achieve a balanced approach that reduces bankruptcy while maintaining profitability.

13. Embrace Chivalrous Symbolic Acts

Engage in symbolic acts of chivalry, such as holding doors or walking roadside, as long as they are appreciated and do not imply inferiority or power imbalance. These gestures can be valuable expressions of respect and care in a world of gender equality.

14. Use ‘Died by Suicide’ to Reduce Stigma

Adopt the language ‘died by suicide’ instead of ‘committed suicide’ to reduce the stigma, shame, and guilt associated with suicide. This shift in terminology promotes a more compassionate and understanding approach to mental health.

The most fatal place to end up in as a human being is to feel unneeded.

Richard Reeves

The solution to your problem as a young man is not to make your sister less powerful or independent.

Richard Reeves

Masculinity defined as like a lone ranger or a, I'm my own man, is the least masculine sentence I think you could ever utter.

Richard Reeves

You shouldn't think less of yourself. You should just think of yourself less.

Richard Reeves

You seem to think the problem is that you're not feminist enough. The problem is that you're not masculine enough.

Richard Reeves's wife

The women's movement was about women securing economic independence, not about men losing it.

Richard Reeves

Advice for Sons on Modern Masculinity

Richard Reeves
  1. Recognize that there are, on average, differences in masculine impulses and instincts, and there is nothing inherently wrong with them.
  2. Strive for complete gender equality in all relationships and interactions.
  3. Be 'for others' and serve, generating a surplus for your family and community.
  4. Have the courage to ask someone out.
  5. Possess the grace to accept 'no' for an answer without entitlement.
  6. Take responsibility to ensure the other person gets home safely, regardless of the outcome of the invitation.
Four times higher
Male suicide rate compared to women Among men and boys, and is rising.
Seven times more
College enrollment drop for men during COVID-19 (US) Compared to women.
Under the age of 45
Suicide as the biggest killer for men In the UK.
Approximately 545,000
Fewer male suicide deaths if rates matched women's (US) Since 1999.
Approximately every 13 minutes
Frequency of male suicide (US) A man dies by suicide.
15%
Men under 30 with no close friends (US) Up from 3% in 1990.
About 40%
Births taking place outside of marriage (US) Up from about 10% previously.
About two to one
Women more likely to initiate divorce Compared to men.
One in ten
Men in primary school teaching roles (UK) Illustrates a lack of male role models in early education.