The Speaking Expert: How To Speak So Everyone Hears You: Julian Treasure

Sep 22, 2022
Overview

Julian Treasure, author of "How to Be Heard" and TED Talk speaker, shares insights on mastering speaking and listening. He emphasizes communication as a skill, offering practical techniques for vocal improvement, building confidence, and fostering deeper understanding in relationships and professional settings.

At a Glance
25 Insights
1h 42m Duration
19 Topics
9 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Speaking and Listening Skills

Julian Treasure's Unique Career and TED Talk Success

Why People Desire to Be Heard

The Importance of Content vs. Delivery in Speaking

Developing Your Vocal Toolbox for Effective Speaking

Building Confidence in Public Speaking

The Power and Peril of Authenticity

Julian's Personal Values: FLAG (Faith, Love, Acceptance, Gratitude)

Mastering Active Listening: Reflection, Validation, Contribution

The RASA Framework for Conscious Listening

Strategies for Speaking with Authority

The Nuance of Honesty and Opinions

The Dangers of 'Fixing' and Conflict Avoidance

Crafting Engrossing Content Through Storytelling

Understanding Your Audience's Unique Listening

The Unconscious Impact of Audio Branding

Four Ways Sound Affects Human Experience

The Global Importance of Conscious Listening

Julian's Future Goal: Climbing Munro's

Vocal Toolbox

The various elements of voice that can be consciously controlled and improved, such as breathing, intonation, rhythm, and timbre, to enhance speaking effectiveness. Most people are unaware they possess this toolbox and don't receive training on how to use it.

Prosody

The intonation (up and down delivery) and rhythm of speaking, including the gaps left and emphasis placed on words, which is crucial for conveying emotion and personality. It varies culturally and is key to engaging an audience.

HALE Acronym

A framework for effective public speaking, standing for Honesty, Authenticity, Integrity, and Love. These principles guide a speaker to connect genuinely and powerfully with their audience.

FLAG Acronym

Julian Treasure's personal moral compass, representing Faith (a conviction that all will be well), Love (thinking well of people), Acceptance (going with the flow and accepting people as they are), and Gratitude (focusing on the good things in life).

Active Listening

A deep form of listening involving three stages: reflection (repeating what was heard), validation (understanding and acknowledging the speaker's perspective), and then contribution (offering one's own thoughts). It emphasizes empathy and understanding before responding.

RASA Acronym

A practical framework for conscious listening, standing for Receive (pay attention), Appreciate (make small affirmative noises/gestures), Summarize (recap what was heard), and Ask (ask clarifying questions).

Stress-Induced Audio Dysfunction (SIAD)

A psychological condition where a person exposed to a disliked or irritating noise (like a nagging voice) unconsciously starts to filter it out, leading to an inability to hear it.

Audio Branding

The intentional design and management of sounds associated with a business, organization, or product, recognizing that all entities already make sounds (accidental or designed) that significantly impact perception and customer experience.

Four Effects of Sound

Sound affects humans in four primary ways: physically (heart rate, breathing, hormones), emotionally (feelings, mood), cognitively (ability to think, concentrate), and behaviorally (actions, purchasing decisions).

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Why do people care so much about learning how to speak effectively?

Many people feel unheard in the world and have a fundamental need to be validated, to make a difference, and to feel significant, which speaking effectively helps to achieve.

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Which is more important for a speaker: the content of their message or their delivery?

While both are crucial, content is ultimately more important because earth-shattering content delivered boringly is still worthwhile, whereas brilliant delivery of vapid nonsense is merely irritating.

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How can I improve my voice to be a more engaging speaker?

Treat your voice as a skill by developing a deep breathing practice, focusing on vocal variety and intonation (prosody), being comfortable with silence, recording yourself, and considering a vocal coach to improve timbre.

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How can introverts become confident public speakers?

Confidence comes from practice; introverts can overcome fear by repeatedly engaging in public speaking, such as joining groups like Toastmasters, and understanding that audiences are generally supportive.

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How can I identify my true personal values?

Write them down and challenge whether they are genuinely what rings true in your heart, rather than what you think society expects, to establish a moral compass and direction in life.

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What is the most common mistake people make in business and relationships regarding communication?

Assuming that everybody listens in the same way they do, failing to recognize that each person's listening is unique and shaped by their individual experiences and background.

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How can I ensure I'm truly listening to someone and making them feel heard?

Practice conscious listening using the RASA framework: Receive (pay attention), Appreciate (give affirmative feedback), Summarize (recap what you heard), and Ask (ask clarifying questions).

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How can I speak with more authority, especially in situations where I might feel less powerful?

Seek explicit agreements or 'contracts' by asking for permission to speak (e.g., 'Do you have five minutes to listen?') which creates an obligation for the other person to listen.

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Is it always best to be completely honest in every situation?

Honesty should be tempered with love; it's not always necessary to express every judgment or opinion, especially if it's unkind or unhelpful, and it's important to distinguish between opinions and facts.

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Why is storytelling so effective in captivating an audience?

Humans are naturally drawn to stories, which engage curiosity and provide a journey with protagonists, challenges, and resolutions, making information more memorable and impactful than mere facts.

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How does sound unconsciously influence our behavior?

Sound can significantly shift behavior without conscious awareness, as demonstrated by studies where background music (e.g., French vs. German) influenced wine purchasing decisions, showing its pervasive impact.

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Why is conscious listening crucial for a better world?

Conscious listening fosters understanding, which is essential to defuse conflict, allow coexistence among people with differing views, promote growth, and strengthen democratic principles by preventing polarization and dehumanization.

1. Define Your Personal Values

Write down your core values to establish a moral compass and clear direction in life, ensuring your actions align with who you truly are rather than societal expectations.

2. Master Active Listening

Practice active listening by first reflecting exactly what the other person said, then validating their perspective (even if you disagree), and only then contributing your own thoughts. This fosters understanding and respect in any conversation.

3. View Communication as Learnable Skills

Recognize that speaking and listening are not just natural capabilities but skills that can be developed and mastered through conscious effort and practice, leading to improved effectiveness and well-being.

4. Practice Deep Diaphragmatic Breathing

Develop a breathing practice, such as resonant breathing (inhaling through the nose, exhaling slowly through the mouth), focusing on breathing from your diaphragm. This improves vocal quality, lung capacity, and helps calm nerves.

5. Prioritize Authenticity

Strive to be your true self in all interactions, as it is easier and more liberating than trying to play a role or character. Authenticity builds trust and prevents mental strain from prolonged inauthenticity.

6. Use Storytelling to Engage

Incorporate captivating stories, metaphors, or personal anecdotes into your presentations and conversations. Stories are highly effective for engaging an audience, making your message memorable, and generating curiosity.

7. Understand Your Audience’s Listening

Before speaking, consider the unique listening context of your audience, whether it’s one person or many. Asking ‘what’s the listening I’m speaking into?’ helps tailor your message for better reception and avoids miscommunication.

8. Apply RASA for Better Listening

Use the RASA acronym (Receive, Appreciate, Summarize, Ask) to guide your listening. Receive by paying attention, appreciate with non-verbal cues, summarize to confirm understanding, and ask questions to deepen the conversation.

9. Build Confidence Through Practice

Overcome fear and build confidence in public speaking by consistently practicing, for example, by joining groups like Toastmasters. Regular exposure to speaking situations makes the process more familiar and less daunting.

10. Temper Honesty with Love

Filter your honesty with love, meaning it’s not always necessary to express every judgment or opinion, especially if it’s unkind or unhelpful. Withholding judgment is not dishonest and can preserve relationships.

11. Cultivate a Habit of Wishing Well

Practice silently wishing well to people you encounter, rather than harboring negative internal monologues. This simple habit can significantly improve your disposition, interactions, and overall sense of well-being.

12. Practice Acceptance and Adaptability

Cultivate acceptance by going with the flow when opportunities arise and not banging your head against a brick wall when things don’t work. Also, accept people as they are, rather than trying to change them.

13. Practice Daily Gratitude

Make a habit of listing things you are grateful for, especially when feeling down. Focusing on the positive aspects of your life can shift your perspective and improve your overall happiness.

14. Actively Improve Your Voice

If you have a ‘boring’ or unengaging voice, take action by getting a vocal coach, working on your posture, and practicing prosody (intonation and rhythm) to make your delivery more interesting and effective.

15. Employ Vocal Variety (Prosody)

Consciously vary your intonation, rhythm, and emphasis when speaking to avoid monotony and convey emotion effectively. This makes your speech more engaging and easier for listeners to follow.

16. Embrace Silence, Avoid Verbal Tics

Become comfortable with silence and avoid filling every gap with ‘ums,’ ’errs,’ or other verbal tics. Strategic pauses can add emphasis, improve clarity, and convey confidence.

17. Self-Analyze Your Speaking

Record yourself speaking and listen back critically to identify areas for improvement. This self-coaching approach is crucial for continuous mastery of your communication skills.

18. Optimize Vocal Timbre

If your voice has a quality you dislike (e.g., thin, squeaky), consider working with a vocal coach. Timbre can be improved, allowing you to maximize the richness and warmth of your voice.

19. Seek Explicit Permission to Speak

When addressing powerful figures or in meetings, explicitly ask for permission to speak (e.g., ‘Do you have five minutes?’). This creates an informal contract, obligating the listener and ensuring your message is heard at an appropriate time.

20. Differentiate Opinions from Facts

Clearly distinguish between your opinions and objective facts in conversations. This reduces argumentation and allows for more respectful disagreement, fostering understanding rather than conflict.

21. Avoid Negativity and Invalidation

Audit your language for negative words like ’no,’ ’not,’ or ‘can’t,’ as frequent use can lead to invalidating others. Instead, try to acknowledge their perspective before offering an alternative view respectfully.

22. Allow Others to Express Emotion

Resist the urge to ‘fix’ or suppress others’ emotions like sadness or anger. Allowing people to express their feelings authentically builds trust and prevents damaging long-term relationship issues.

23. Cultivate Listening Curiosity

Approach conversations with genuine curiosity about the other person’s perspective. This, along with compassion, commitment, and consciousness, is fundamental to effective listening and deeper understanding.

24. Seek Out Discomforting Ideas

Actively expose yourself to ideas and perspectives that make you feel uncomfortable. This discomfort can be a signal for reassessment, helping you challenge biases, broaden your understanding, and grow.

25. Master Public Speaking Preparation

For formal talks, clearly define your big idea, the ‘why’ people should care, and the journey you’ll take them on. Rehearse extensively to project confidence and clarity, engaging the audience effectively.

We teach reading and writing in schools. We don't teach speaking or listening, which is absolutely nuts.

Julian Treasure

We're much keener to be heard than we are to listen to others.

Julian Treasure

If somebody's delivering earth shattering content in a boring way, I can really make an effort and listen to them and it's worth it at the end. Whereas if somebody's delivering vapid nonsense in a brilliant way, it's just irritating, actually.

Chris Anderson (quoted by Julian Treasure)

Excellence is not an act, it's habit.

Aristotle (quoted by Julian Treasure)

What's the most important part of the sales conversation? Listening. It's not the speaking. It's the listening.

Julian Treasure

Humans are much better at spotting authenticity than we give them credit for.

Stephen Bartlett

What's the easiest way for me to be right is to make you wrong. If you're wrong, I am writer. And that is a slippery slope.

Julian Treasure

You cannot truly listen to another human being and do anything else at the same time.

Scott Peck (quoted by Julian Treasure)

Listening is the sound of democracy.

Julian Treasure

Resonant Breathing Practice

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  1. Breathe in through your nose.
  2. Breathe out through your mouth as if blowing, making a sound, and practice lengthening both the in-breath and out-breath by counting.
  3. Focus on breathing from your diaphragm (stomach moving up and down), not your chest, to develop deeper breathing habits.

Active Listening Stages

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  1. Reflection: Repeat exactly what the speaker said, without coloring or interpreting it, to check understanding (e.g., 'What I just heard you say is...').
  2. Validation: Acknowledge and understand the speaker's perspective, even if you completely disagree (e.g., 'I understand. It makes sense that you would feel that.').
  3. Contribution: After reflecting and validating, you can then offer your own perspective, contribute, or move the conversation forward.

RASA Listening Framework

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  1. Receive: Pay full attention to the person speaking, including body language, and avoid doing anything else simultaneously.
  2. Appreciate: Provide small, affirmative noises, head bobs, or gestures (e.g., 'Mm,' 'Ah,' eyebrow raises, smiles) to show engagement and oil the conversation.
  3. Summarize: Use phrases like 'So, what I understood you just said is this. Is that right?' to recap and ensure mutual understanding, closing conversational 'doors' before moving on.
  4. Ask: Pose questions at the beginning, during, and after the conversation to clarify, explore, and link to familiar territory, especially if feeling uncomfortable or unfamiliar with the topic.
Over 100 million
Julian Treasure's most popular TED Talk views (combined) Estimate by Chris Anderson, including TED.com, YouTube, embedded podcasts, etc.
About 40 million
Julian Treasure's most popular TED Talk views (YouTube alone) Julian's estimate.
5
Number of TED Talks Julian Treasure did in a row The most popular one was the fifth.
12 minutes
Typical TED Talk length Julian's first TED Talk was 6 minutes.
5:1
Ratio of views for speaking talk vs. listening talk The talk on speaking has been seen by five times as many people as the talk on listening.
3 or 4 people
CEOs with formal vocal training Out of hundreds or thousands of CEOs in Julian's audience.
28 minutes
World record for static apnea Lying at the bottom of a swimming pool on one breath.
One third
Productivity in open-plan offices vs. quiet spaces Knowledge workers are one third as productive in open-plan offices.
5 bottles to 1
French wine sales increase with French music French wine outsold German wine by this ratio on French music days in a supermarket study.
3 bottles to 1
German wine sales increase with German music German wine outsold French wine by this ratio on German music days in a supermarket study.
1926
Year of the first Wheaties sound advertisement A four-part barbershop quartet jingle.
64 years old
Julian Treasure's age At the time of the podcast.
Over 3,000 feet
Munro peak height threshold Scottish peaks, of which there are more than 100.
83 years old
Age of man who completed all Munro's An inspiring story of achieving a serious walking challenge.
8 miles
Length of Julian's recent walk Walked with his partner Jane in Orkney.