World Leading Psychologist: How To Detach From Overthinking & Anxiety: Dr Julie Smith

Mar 3, 2022
Overview

Dr. Julie Smith, a clinical psychologist, discusses navigating stress, burnout, and public life by prioritizing core values. She shares actionable strategies for managing emotions, building confidence, improving relationships, and fostering mental well-being through practical, evidence-based tools.

At a Glance
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1h 37m Duration
19 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Julie Smith's Background and Path to Psychology

The Predictable Yet Unique Nature of Human Beings

Transitioning from Clinical Practice to TikTok

Coping with Public Scrutiny and Negative Feedback

Understanding Core Beliefs and Relationship Patterns

The Difference Between Values and Goals

Making Meaningful and Sustainable Life Changes

Strategies for Improving Mood and Dealing with Bad Days

The Critical Importance of Sleep for Well-being

Navigating Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation

Addressing Overload and Societal Ideals

Managing Emotions and Destructive Coping Mechanisms

Building Confidence and Self-Compassion

Utilizing Breathwork for Anxiety Reduction

Reconnecting with Human Basics and Values

The Impact of Accepting Mortality on Living Well

The Profound Importance of Relationships

Challenging Relationship Myths and Social Media Expectations

Reflecting on Personal Happiness and Life Choices

Mental Filter

This is a cognitive bias where individuals tend to scroll through many positive comments or experiences to find and focus on the one negative or neutral piece of feedback. It's a natural human tendency to look for signs of threat or things going wrong.

Core Beliefs

These are deeply held, often unconscious beliefs about oneself (e.g., being unlovable) that develop from early life experiences. They influence feelings, behaviors, and choices, and can trigger psychological distress when challenged, leading to 'rules for living' to keep them at bay.

Values vs. Goals

A goal is a specific achievement that, once reached, is done (e.g., passing exams). A value, however, is a lifelong pathway or direction, representing how you want to be and respond in different areas of your life, which you continuously strive to align with.

Overload

This state arises from being subjected to numerous societal ideals (e.g., ideal parent, business person, social media persona) and attempting to perform perfectly in all of them. This overextension leads to feelings of failure and being worn out.

Self-Compassion

Instead of self-esteem (which is an evaluation of oneself), self-compassion involves treating oneself with kindness and doing what is ultimately best for oneself, even when experiencing low self-esteem or struggling. It focuses on helpful action rather than self-judgment.

Extrinsic Motivation

This refers to motivation that comes from external rewards or pressures, such as being paid for a task. It can sometimes diminish intrinsic motivation, making an enjoyable activity feel more like a 'grind' or work.

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How did a clinical therapist like Dr. Julie Smith find her way onto TikTok?

Dr. Smith felt it was unfair that valuable life skills taught in therapy were hidden away. Her husband encouraged her to share content on YouTube, and then suggested TikTok, where she found an overwhelming response from people hungry for evidence-based mental health education.

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How do you deal with negative feedback and rejection when you have a large public platform?

It's tough because humans are built to care what others think. Dr. Smith practices what she preaches by acknowledging the 'mental filter' bias (focusing on negative comments) and managing her response to these thoughts, rather than trying to stop caring entirely.

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How do you get to the heart of understanding what your core beliefs are?

Journaling and reflecting on experiences, especially recurring patterns of behavior in relationships, can help. By writing down what happened, how you felt, and what followed, you can map out cycles and identify underlying beliefs and outdated coping strategies.

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What is the difference between a value and a goal?

A goal is something you achieve and then it's done, like passing an exam. A value is a continuous pathway or journey throughout your life, representing how you want to respond to things and the kind of person you want to be in different areas of your life.

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How do people make meaningful and sustainable change in their lives?

Meaningful change is made carefully and gradually, not drastically or quickly. It involves a process of reflection, small actions, and then more reflection to re-evaluate and adjust direction, developing habits bit by bit.

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How can we turn bad days into not-so-bad days or improve our mood?

Sometimes the quickest way to impact your mind is through your body, using things like exercise, music, singing, or human connection. Understanding what works for you personally can help create small shifts that move things forward.

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How important is sleep for our mood and mindset?

Sleep is incredibly important, directly impacting how one feels and their performance and effectiveness at work. Sacrificing sleep, despite cultural pressures, is unsustainable and detrimental to overall well-being.

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How can one build confidence?

Confidence cannot grow if one is unwilling to be vulnerable. To build it, one must engage in activities that make them nervous, in manageable doses, through repetition. The more you do something, the more your brain automates it, making it your comfort zone.

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How can we use our breathing to feel less anxious?

Slowing down your breathing can slow down the entire anxiety response, as fast, shallow breathing contributes to panic. Techniques like box breathing or simply extending and making the out-breath longer and more vigorous than the in-breath can quickly calm the body.

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Why is it important to accept our own mortality?

Accepting that life will end, while a source of fear, can also be a profound source of meaning in life today. It can motivate you to live well, practice gratitude, and prioritize what truly matters, shaping how you want to live.

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How do societal expectations (e.g., from social media) impact our relationships?

Social media often sets unrealistic expectations of perfect relationships, leading people to believe love shouldn't be hard or that partners always need to be together. This can cause insecurity, anger, and make people feel their relationships are 'wrong' or disposable when challenges arise.

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How often are the relationships we have with others a reflection of the relationship we have with ourselves?

There's a huge connection; when one's relationship with themselves deteriorates (e.g., due to depression), it becomes difficult to sustain positive external relationships because they may not feel worthy. However, self-love isn't a prerequisite for partnership, and one can navigate this journey with another person.

1. Filter Decisions Through Core Values

Use your core values (e.g., family well-being) as a “values filter” to guide decisions, ensuring choices align with what is most important to you and avoid detrimental effects.

2. Act on Values, Not Fleeting Feelings

Avoid making decisions solely based on immediate feelings, as this often leads to short-term relief but long-term stagnation; instead, align your actions with your core values to live a life of meaning.

3. Return to Human Basics

Re-prioritize fundamental human needs like sleep, nutrition, exercise, and genuine connection, as neglecting these basics in the modern world is a root cause of many perceived “flaws” or struggles.

4. Cultivate Quality Human Connection

Prioritize and cultivate good quality human connections, as they serve as an inherent stress resilience mechanism, physically altering how your body deals with stress.

5. Prioritize Sleep for Performance

Recognize sleep as crucial for mood and performance, and actively prioritize it, as chronic sleep deprivation negatively impacts how you feel and your effectiveness at work.

6. Make Gradual, Sustainable Changes

Meaningful and sustainable change is achieved gradually through a process of reflection, small actions, and re-evaluation, rather than drastic, quick shifts.

7. Build Confidence Through Repetitive Action

To build confidence, be willing to step out of your comfort zone and engage in manageable, repetitive actions in areas that make you nervous, as consistent practice makes them easier and builds mastery.

8. Use Breathwork to Reduce Anxiety

To quickly calm anxiety, practice slow breathing, specifically by extending and making your out-breath longer and more vigorous than your in-breath, which helps to slow down the body’s stress response.

9. Treat Emotions as Information

Instead of judging emotions, view them with curiosity as information from your brain, then explore what they are about and consciously decide how you want to respond in alignment with your values.

10. Detach from Intrusive Thoughts

Recognize that thoughts are simply ideas your brain offers, not necessarily reflections of who you are; allow them to exist without judgment, then consciously choose how much attention to give them.

11. Prioritize Self-Compassion

Focus on self-compassion, which involves doing what is best for yourself even when self-esteem is low, rather than solely relying on self-esteem, which is an evaluation that may not always be useful or accurate.

12. Manage Negative Feedback Response

Instead of trying to stop caring what people think, which is impossible, focus on how you manage your response to negative comments and thoughts that arise.

13. Combat Overload by Redefining Ideals

Challenge societal ideals of perfection in all life areas to avoid overextension and feelings of failure; instead, define what you want your life to look like, accepting that it’s okay for your goals to be smaller than others'.

14. Examine Coping Behaviors with Curiosity

When engaging in habitual coping behaviors (like overeating or excessive screen time), approach them with curiosity, not judgment, to understand their function and what uncomfortable feelings they are providing safety from.

15. Choose Long-Term Over Instant Relief

Be aware that habitual behaviors offering instant relief often keep you stuck in the long term; instead, choose harder, long-term strategies like sitting with difficult feelings and using coping skills.

16. Map Relationship Patterns via Reflection

Use journaling and reflection to map out recurring patterns in your relationships by detailing events, feelings, and responses, which helps you gain a “bird’s eye view” and identify cycles to potentially break.

17. Seek Trusted Friends for Perspective

When trying to understand and break difficult behavioral cycles, talk to trusted friends or loved ones to gain an external perspective and “fact-check” your own perceptions, as it’s hard to see clearly when you’re in the midst of it.

18. Gradually Engage with Emotions

If you tend to shut down emotionally, gradually open up to emotions in small, supported ways, starting with those that feel less overwhelming, to build coping skills without being completely overcome.

19. Embrace Mortality for Meaning

Acknowledge your own mortality not as a source of fear, but as a powerful motivator to live well, align with your values, practice gratitude, and make each day meaningful.

20. Conduct Regular Values Check-ins

Periodically assess different areas of your life by defining how you want to be and respond (your values), then rate how well you are currently living in alignment with those values to identify areas needing attention.

21. Uncover Core Beliefs in Relationships

Understand how early life relationships shape core beliefs and survival strategies, which then play out in adult relationships, often triggering distress when rules for living are broken.

22. Challenge Relationship Myths

Dispel common relationship myths, such as “love shouldn’t be hard” or “you always need to be together,” and instead focus on what genuinely works for your relationship, even if it deviates from societal expectations.

23. Follow Your Interests for Career

To find a job you love, consistently follow your interests and what excites you, rather than waiting for an epiphany moment, as this path is more likely to lead to fulfillment.

24. Shift Mood via Body and Connection

To quickly change your mood, utilize physical actions like exercise, music, singing, or human connection, as these can create significant emotional shifts by influencing your body.

The things that we end up doing habitually are the things that work instantly. Go into the fridge or grabbing the wine or whatever it is. And actually the things that tend to work in the long term are hardest in the moment, like sitting with it and feeling it and using skills to get yourself through it.

Dr. Julie Smith

You're built to care what people think of you. And, and you probably wouldn't function in a society that well, if you didn't care what anybody thought of you, it's about how you then manage it.

Dr. Julie Smith

Big meaningful change is not made drastically and quickly, you know, sustainable changes made carefully. And there's this process of, it's not just action. There is a lot of kind of reflection and then there's a bit of action. Then there's a bit more reflection.

Dr. Julie Smith

Confidence cannot grow if we are never willing to be without it.

Dr. Julie Smith

Emotions get such a bad rap, don't they? Because they kind of, um, you know, we're talking about things like jealousy and people say, you know, I just could never get jealous because it's an awful emotion or something like that. And, and actually the emotion isn't the thing to judge. The emotion is information.

Dr. Julie Smith

When it comes to a happy life, relationships beat money, fame, social class, and all the things we're told to put F into.

Dr. Julie Smith

Box Breathing / Square Breathing for Anxiety

Dr. Julie Smith
  1. Pick a box-shaped object in your environment (e.g., a door or window) to use as a visual focus.
  2. As you trace your eyes up one side of the box, breathe in slowly for approximately four seconds.
  3. As you trace your eyes across the top of the box, hold your breath for approximately four seconds.
  4. As you trace your eyes down the other side of the box, breathe out slowly for approximately four seconds.
  5. As you trace your eyes across the bottom of the box, hold your breath for approximately four seconds.
  6. Repeat the cycle, focusing on making the out-breath longer and more vigorous than the in-breath if possible, to help calm the anxiety response.
more than three million
Dr. Julie Smith's followers on TikTok At the time of the podcast intro
over fifteen years
Years Dr. Julie Smith practiced therapy with the NHS and Ministry of Defence Before becoming famous
60 seconds
Suggested length for initial TikTok videos Recommended by Julie's husband
three and a half million
Dr. Julie Smith's followers on TikTok Two years after starting TikTok
99.9%
Percentage of Stephen Bartlett's social media comments that are positive He still focuses on the negative ones due to the mental filter
75%
Percentage of Dr. Julie Smith's TikTok followers who are female The remaining male followers are highly engaged
104
Age used in an Acceptance and Commitment Therapy exercise to reflect on life Imagining looking back on one's life from an armchair