How to Confront the Things that Suck (Live with John Green)

Overview

Author and vlogger John Green discusses his book "Everything is Tuberculosis" with Yale Professor Dr. Laurie Santos. They explore how to combat despair with hope, earnestness, and collective action, emphasizing that humans can be "good news" by tackling global problems like TB together.

At a Glance
20 Insights
1h 11m Duration
17 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

John Green's Visit to a TB Hospital in Sierra Leone

Why Tuberculosis is the Exemplary Disease of Injustice

The Current Global Scope and Catastrophe of Tuberculosis

The Stigma and Romanticization Surrounding Disease

The Isolating Nature of Illness and the Importance of Connection

Defining Hope and Embracing Earnestness in the Face of Problems

Tackling Global Problems Through Community and Solidarity

The Awe of Scientific Discovery: Robert Koch and TB

Finding Small Joys and Humor Amidst Suffering

Connecting Tuberculosis to Taylor Swift

Encouraging TB Diagnosis Among American Doctors

The Impact of Parenthood on John Green's Writing

Portrayals of Tuberculosis in Media

John Green's Relationship with Illness After His Brother's Cancer

Channeling Anger into Action and Community

Advice for Young Artists in New York City

The 'Not Yet' of History and Fighting for a Better Future

Tuberculosis as a Social Phenomenon

Tuberculosis is not merely a biomedical infection but a disease shaped by social injustice and inequity, predominantly affecting the oppressed and marginalized due to systemic failures in healthcare and other systems.

Stigma

Stigma is a way of thinking about illness that attributes blame to the sick, implying they deserved their condition. This serves to protect others from the fear of indiscriminate suffering by creating a 'reason' for someone else's misfortune.

Romanticization

Romanticization is a strategy similar to stigma, where sick individuals are placed on a pedestal, seemingly the opposite of dehumanization. However, it still serves to cast them out of the social order by creating a 'reason' for their suffering, such as associating TB with poetic genius.

Hope

Hope is defined as a belief that the world can be made better through collective action, and that human beings have the capacity to be 'good news' for each other. It serves as a crucial counter to despair and motivates engagement with difficult problems.

Robert Koch's Discovery

This refers to the pivotal scientific realization that tuberculosis is caused by a bacterium, not an inherited condition. This discovery fundamentally changed how the disease was understood, imagined, and fought, leading to new methods of combating the infection.

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Why do people stigmatize and romanticize diseases like TB?

It's a way for people to cope with the randomness of illness, creating a reason why it happened to others so they don't have to worry about it happening to themselves.

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How does John Green cope with constantly highlighting difficult global problems?

He emphasizes doing the work in community and solidarity, finding strength and even fun in collective effort to address challenges like TB.

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Can you connect tuberculosis to Taylor Swift?

Yes, Taylor Swift has a lyric about the Lake District 'where the poets went to die,' which refers to British romantic poets who died of tuberculosis.

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How can American doctors be encouraged to consider TB as a possible diagnosis, especially in rarer forms?

Public health officials are working to educate doctors and nurses to have a higher 'index of suspicion' for TB, as it is still present in the U.S. and often goes undiagnosed.

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Should we create a StoryGraph buddy read for 'Everything is Tuberculosis'?

Yes, John Green encourages reading the book in community and having conversations about it, noting he even married someone from a two-person book club.

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How has being a parent changed John Green as a writer?

Parenting helped him understand that 'love is stronger than death,' which was crucial for writing 'The Fault in Our Stars,' and also helped him improve his mental health, influencing 'Turtles All the Way Down.'

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If Moulin Rouge was more realistic, would Christian have caught TB from Satine?

Not necessarily, as the timeline of the show is very short (potentially 5 days to 6 weeks), and the portrayal of TB in the movie is not super realistic.

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What does John Green think about the portrayal of TB in the video game Red Dead Redemption 2?

He thought the game did a great job portraying TB, showing the character getting sick slowly over time, and found the game visually beautiful and engaging.

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How has John Green's personal relationship with illness changed since his brother Hank's cancer diagnosis?

It was a reminder that illness often comes quickly and highlighted the precarity of all things, emphasizing the importance of community support during difficult times.

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How can we appropriately channel anger about global injustices like TB?

By channeling it into action and community, working together to 'make the world suck less' and increase 'world awesome.'

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What advice does John Green have for a new generation moving to New York City for careers in the arts?

Get a roommate (maybe five), and remember advice like 'you're 29, you can't act like a little deer in headlights anymore' (from his editor) and 'you don't have to feel everything that they feel' (from Maureen Johnson).

1. Cultivate Collective Hope

Develop hope by believing that humanity can collectively make the world better and be a source of good news for one another. Hope is essential to combat despair, which can be debilitating and make it hard to live.

2. Fight for a Better Future

Acknowledge systemic injustices and suffering, but simultaneously recognize real progress made through collective effort. Understand that we are in the middle of history, not the end, and it’s our shared responsibility to fight for a better future together.

3. Embrace Suffering with Curiosity

Seek meaning and positive emotion by embracing suffering with a sense of duty, curiosity, and kindness, instead of avoiding discomfort. This approach allows for wonder even in difficult situations and is a path to happiness.

4. Be Earnest, Not Ironic

Confront current problems with earnestness and hope, choosing vulnerability over irony as a protective mechanism. While hard, earnestness and vulnerability are more effective for engagement than ironic detachment.

5. Channel Anger into Action

Transform feelings of anger and frustration into collective action within a community to reduce suffering and create positive impact. This is an appropriate and effective way to respond to injustice and work towards a better world.

6. Take Small, Hopeful Actions

Engage in small, concrete actions to address problems you care about, like calling a senator or supporting a cause. This agency not only does good but also boosts your own hope and sense of efficacy.

7. Advocate to Representatives

Engage in political advocacy by contacting your elected representatives through calls or emails about critical issues like global health and diseases of injustice. This outreach makes a tangible difference as representatives respond to constituent input.

8. Donate to Fight TB

Contribute financially to organizations like givedirectly.org.tv to provide treatment for tuberculosis. This helps combat the scandal of needless deaths from a curable disease.

9. Support Ill with Love

Offer consistent support, love, and practical help, such as regular visits and food, to those suffering from illness. This crucial support combats isolation and can be vital for survival.

10. Fight Disease Stigma

Combat the stigma around diseases by advocating for their curability and universal access to treatment. Stigma makes illness harder to bear and dehumanizes those suffering.

11. Focus Your Efforts

Select a specific problem or cause to concentrate your efforts on, rather than attempting to address all global issues at once. This focused approach allows for more effective agency and contributes to collective problem-solving.

12. Cultivate Awe and Wonder

Actively cultivate a sense of awe and wonder, even when facing challenging circumstances. Awe is an underrated and readily available positive emotion that can be a powerful counter to suffering.

13. Find Small Personal Joys

Identify and engage in small, personal sources of joy, regardless of their perceived productivity. These ’little things’ are crucial for personal happiness and well-being.

14. Find Joy in Humor

Seek joy and human connection through humor, including gallows humor, even amidst suffering and dire circumstances. Humor is a fundamental human trait that provides moments of delight and connection.

15. Respect Illness Narratives

Allow and encourage individuals to share their illness experiences in their unique ways, including through humor, recognizing that sick people remain fully human. This respects their agency, fosters connection, and aids coping.

16. Set Emotional Boundaries

When encountering difficult or emotional content, remember that you don’t need to fully internalize or feel everything others do. This helps maintain emotional boundaries and prevents burnout or overwhelming despair.

17. Shed Outdated Self-Perceptions

Recognize and actively shed outdated self-perceptions or behaviors that no longer align with your current age or experience. This practice enables personal growth and allows you to act more authentically.

18. Start a Two-Person Book Club

Initiate a two-person book club with someone you wish to connect with, and share your highlighted passages. This can foster deep connection and even lead to romantic relationships.

19. Celebrate Being Together

Celebrate the act of being present and together in community, even when the purpose of existence is uncertain or circumstances are difficult. This communal celebration can transform feelings of pointlessness into hope and reinforce connection.

20. Increase World Awesome

Actively work to increase the overall level of ‘world awesome’ in addition to decreasing ‘world suck.’ Both efforts are important for improving the world and maintaining personal well-being.

The most punk rock thing to do in the world right now is to embrace the current problems with earnestness and hope.

John Green

We do not live at the end of history. We live in the middle of history.

John Green

Stigma is a way of saying, you deserved for this to happen, and I don't deserve for it to happen.

Casey Altman (quoted by John Green)

I am encouraged, sir. I am happy.

Henry

The answer to that question is solidarity, solidarity, solidarity.

John Green

You stand here when others ran away.

Henry (quoted by John Green, about his mother)

We're here because we're here, because we're here, because we're here.

World War I song (reinterpreted by Amy Cross Rosenthal and John Green)
about 10 million people
People who got sick with tuberculosis last year globally
about 1.25 million
People who died from tuberculosis last year globally
about 30%
Expected increase in TB deaths due to USAID defunding hundreds of thousands of human lives
none
Ideal number of people who should die of TB if everyone had healthcare according to Dr. K.J. Sung
2.5 million people
People who died of tuberculosis the year John Green graduated college globally
150 times more
Cost comparison of Hank's cancer treatment vs. Henry's TB cure to cure Hank's cancer than Henry's TB
10,000 cases
Cases of active TB in the U.S. going up
3 million more cases
Estimated increase in TB cases annually from cutting U.S.-related funding every year
12 million children
Children who died under age five the year John Green graduated high school globally
fewer than 5 million
Children who died under age five last year globally