Jason Karp: Live A Healthier Life

Apr 4, 2023
Overview

Jason Karp, founder and CEO of HumanCo., discusses his journey from a high-stress hedge fund career to a mission-driven focus on health and wellness after overcoming severe illnesses. He shares insights on diet, lifestyle, and building companies that prioritize truly healthy, delicious food.

At a Glance
48 Insights
1h 28m Duration
10 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Childhood Influences and Early Misfit Years

Discovering Strengths and Hacking ADHD

The University Inflection Point and 'Terminator Jason'

Positional Chess and Optionality as a Life Metaphor

Personal Health Crisis and Self-Cure Through Lifestyle

Founding Hu Kitchen: Ancestral Eating Principles

Critique of the Modern Food System and US Wheat

HumanCo's Mission: Cleaning Up Beloved Foods

Investing in True Food Kitchen for Accessible Healthy Eating

The Importance of Balance in Ambition and Health

Hyper-focus (ADHD)

A characteristic of some individuals with ADHD where they can achieve intense, prolonged concentration on tasks that genuinely interest them, allowing for deep absorption and extended periods of work or study beyond typical attention spans.

Positional Chess

A strategic approach, applied to chess and life, that prioritizes arranging one's current situation to be robust and adaptable. The goal is to be well-prepared to handle various outcomes, whether offensive or defensive, rather than attempting to predict and plan for every specific future move.

Optionality

A mental model derived from games like poker and chess, suggesting that one should position themselves in life or investing to have multiple favorable choices or 'fat pitches' available. This allows for waiting for advantageous situations and minimizing losses when an advantage is not present.

Functional Medicine

A healthcare approach that focuses on identifying and addressing the underlying root causes of diseases, rather than solely treating symptoms. It often involves a holistic view, considering lifestyle, diet, genetics, and environmental factors.

Ancestral Eating (Modified Paleo)

A dietary philosophy centered on consuming foods that align with human evolutionary history, similar to what hunter-gatherers or previous generations ate. It emphasizes whole, unprocessed ingredients and often restricts modern additions like refined sugars, grains, and certain dairy products.

Dirty Dozen List

A list published by the Environmental Working Group (EWG) that identifies fruits and vegetables most likely to contain high levels of pesticide residues. It serves as a guide for consumers to prioritize buying organic versions of these specific produce items.

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How can individuals with ADHD leverage their unique brain function for learning?

Individuals with ADHD, particularly those with a 'hyper-focus' tendency, can learn to channel their intense concentration by actively finding ways to make subjects interesting to themselves, even if they initially seem unengaging, thereby applying deep focus to academic or professional tasks.

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What is the core difference between combinational and positional thinking in decision-making?

Combinational thinking involves trying to predict and plan for a specific sequence of future events, whereas positional thinking focuses on arranging one's current situation to be robust and adaptable, ready to capitalize on opportunities or defend against unexpected challenges, regardless of precise predictions.

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What was the root cause of Jason Karp's severe health issues in his early twenties?

Jason Karp's health crisis, including skin rashes, hair loss, prostatitis, and vision loss, was attributed to an extreme lifestyle of self-improvement that neglected sleep, exercise, and social connection, leading to a breakdown in his body's detoxification processes and systemic inflammation.

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How does the current US wheat industry differ from European wheat, and why does it matter for health?

US wheat often contains traces of glyphosate (Roundup), a herbicide banned in many countries and linked to microbiome disruption, and it typically has higher gluten levels due to crossbreeding, making it potentially more inflammatory than European wheat strains.

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Why is the modern food supply considered 'poisoned' by Jason Karp?

The modern food supply is seen as poisoned due to widespread use of pesticides like glyphosate on major crops, the presence of laboratory-produced chemicals, artificial colors, and preservatives in processed foods, and pervasive microplastics, all of which contribute to chronic diseases and metabolic unhealth.

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Is healthy food truly unaffordable for most people?

Jason Karp argues that for most Americans above the poverty line, healthy food is a choice, not an affordability issue, as many people prioritize discretionary spending on items like smartphones or coffee over investing a few extra dollars in higher-quality, healthier food.

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What is HumanCo's strategy for improving public health through food?

HumanCo aims to transform 'dirty' but beloved food categories (like pizza bites or ice cream) by replacing unhealthy ingredients with clean, organic, and evolutionarily consistent alternatives, making healthy eating more accessible and enjoyable without compromising taste.

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Why is balance crucial even when pursuing self-improvement or healthy habits?

While ambition and healthy habits are beneficial, taking them to an extreme (e.g., fanatical eating that isolates one socially or excessive work without rest) can negatively impact mental health, which is inextricably linked to physical health, ultimately undermining overall well-being.

1. Prioritize Mental Health

Recognize that mental health is inextricably linked to and a critical component of physical health, and should be prioritized accordingly.

2. Maintain Balance in Habits

Always strive for balance in life, as even beneficial habits, when pursued to an extreme, can negatively impact mental and physical health.

3. Avoid Extreme Cost-Benefit Analysis

Do not apply an extreme cost-benefit analysis to all aspects of life, as it can devalue intangible but crucial elements like relationships, physical health, and sleep, leading to negative outcomes.

4. Maintain Core Well-being Pillars

Do not sacrifice exercise, social connections, and sufficient sleep in pursuit of other goals, as these are fundamental to overall health and can lead to severe physical and mental decline if neglected.

5. Prioritize Adequate Sleep

Avoid trying to subsist on minimal sleep (e.g., three hours) or relying on micro-naps, as this practice is not recommended and can lead to severe health deterioration.

6. Address Root Causes of Illness

When facing health issues, look beyond symptom management to identify and address the root causes of disease, rather than solely relying on Western medicine’s symptom-focused approach.

7. Challenge Health Dogma

Do not blindly accept common dogma about medicine, lifestyle, and nutrition; instead, be open to alternative approaches, especially when personal experience demonstrates their effectiveness.

8. Align Lifestyle with Evolution

Use human evolution as a ‘scientific North star’ for lifestyle choices, recognizing that modern living often conflicts with our evolutionary design and contributes to disease.

9. Experiment with Lifestyle for Health

Formulate and test hypotheses about how dramatically improving sleep, cleaning up diet, and resuming exercise can reverse health issues, even when conventional wisdom suggests otherwise.

10. Eliminate Harmful Substances

To regain health, consider eliminating alcohol, caffeine, and processed foods, and actively re-learn how to sleep if previous habits have disrupted your natural sleep patterns.

11. Adhere to Strict Food Standards

Adopt strict food standards: go grain-free, gluten-free, use only grass-fed dairy, ensure organic for necessary items, avoid refined sugar, and make food from scratch.

12. Practice 85/15 Clean Eating

Aim for an 85% clean diet, allowing for 15% indulgence, to maintain balance and avoid the mental health toll of overly strict eating.

13. Avoid Fanatical Clean Eating

Do not become excessively fanatical about clean eating (e.g., ‘100-0’ approach) to the point where it negatively impacts your mental health and social life, which can, in turn, affect physical health.

14. Prioritize Delicious Healthy Food

Ensure healthy food options are delicious, as people are unlikely to sustain new eating habits if they feel they are compromising on taste and enjoyment.

15. Invest in Healthy Eating

Understand that healthy eating is a long-term investment in your well-being, and delaying this choice often leads to irreversible health issues and costs borne by others.

16. Prioritize Food Spending

Recognize that for most people above the poverty line, choosing healthier food is a financial choice, and it’s possible to afford it by reallocating funds from non-essential items like streaming services or daily coffee.

17. Buy Organic for Major Crops

Always choose organic versions of large, popular crops like soy, wheat, corn, cocoa, and coffee, as non-organic versions are often heavily treated with chemicals.

18. Buy Organic for Concentrated Foods

Always buy organic for concentrated food products like juices, chocolate, coffee, and flour, because pesticides and chemicals become concentrated in these forms.

19. Filter Drinking Water

Filter your drinking water, ideally using reverse osmosis, to remove microplastics and other contaminants that permeate the modern water supply.

20. Go Completely Gluten-Free

Consider eliminating gluten entirely, especially due to concerns about the U.S. wheat industry and potential personal intolerance.

21. Buy Organic Flour

Purchase organic flour to avoid exposure to glyphosate (Roundup), which is commonly found in non-organic U.S. wheat crops and is banned in many countries.

22. Seek Ancient Grain Wheat

If consuming wheat, look for ancient grain versions, as modern wheat has been crossbred to contain significantly higher and potentially more inflammatory gluten levels.

23. Avoid Artificial Ingredients

Eliminate laboratory-produced ingredients, fake colors, chemicals, and chemical preservatives from your diet to improve health.

24. Choose Ethically Raised Animal Products

Opt for animal products from animals raised in an evolutionarily consistent way (e.g., grass-fed, pastured cows) to ensure better quality and health benefits.

25. Eat Wild Animals

Prioritize consuming wild animals when available, as they are likely to be raised in a more natural and healthy manner.

26. Strictly Choose Organic Produce

Maintain strict adherence to organic vegetables and fruits to avoid exposure to pesticides and other harmful chemicals.

27. Support Sustainable Farming

Choose products from farming practices that treat the earth and animals better, as this results in healthier food for you and is beneficial for the planet.

28. Adopt an Ancestral Diet

Explore a paleo or ancestral diet, aligning your eating habits with how humans evolved as hunter-gatherers, as this approach has been linked to better health outcomes.

29. Adapt Ancestral Living

Seek ways to integrate principles of ancestral living (e.g., diet, movement) into a modern environment like a city, finding practical applications for evolutionary health.

30. Strive for Dominance

Decide to dominate in everything you do, as this mindset can set a path for future achievements.

31. Cultivate a ‘Watch Me’ Attitude

Maintain a belief that more is possible than others think, using skepticism as motivation to prove people wrong and achieve ambitious goals.

32. Emphasize Thorough Preparation

Adopt the mindset that ‘battles are won before they begin,’ emphasizing thorough preparation as a key to success.

33. Work Hard for Opportunity

Work diligently to position yourself to see and seize more opportunities, understanding that ’luck’ often stems from preparation and effort.

34. Adopt Positional Thinking

Apply ‘positional chess’ to life by arranging your circumstances to handle unexpected events, allowing you to attack opportunities or defend against challenges effectively.

35. Prioritize Long-Term Positioning

Focus on positioning yourself to capitalize on future situations rather than maximizing the current moment or attempting to predict the future precisely.

36. Cultivate Life Optionality

Open multiple ‘windows’ or avenues in life to create optionality, allowing you to wait for and act on the most advantageous opportunities (‘fat pitches’).

37. Avoid Burning Bridges

Understand that maintaining good relationships and not alienating others is a form of ‘positional chess,’ ensuring you have options and support in the future.

38. Seek Help to Channel Challenges

Find mentors or teachers who can help you understand and channel your unique strengths, especially if you face challenges like ADHD.

39. Hack Brain for Hyper-Focus

Develop strategies to make uninteresting subjects engaging, allowing you to apply hyper-focus and improve learning and productivity.

40. Study How to Learn

Read and reflect on methods for learning and acquiring knowledge from others to improve your own learning process.

41. Learn From Everyone

Recognize that everyone, from a custodian to a grandmaster, has something valuable to teach you, broadening your perspective on learning.

42. Draw Inspiration from Failure

Read quotations and stories from individuals who experienced significant failure to gain perspective on perseverance and getting through tough times.

43. Maintain a Quote Journal

Write down favorite quotes, especially those that deeply affect your thinking, to serve as reminders and guides for self-reflection.

44. Balance Self-Improvement Drive

Recognize that even noble pursuits like self-improvement, when taken to an extreme, can lead to neglecting essential aspects of health and well-being.

45. Beware of Over-Optimization

Be cautious of continuously pushing for self-improvement and performance (e.g., speed reading, less sleep) to an extreme, as it can lead to burnout and severe health issues.

46. Support Mission-Driven Companies

Actively seek out and support companies that prioritize trust, mission, and values over pure profit, as this encourages a more ethical and beneficial market.

47. Seek Inclusive Health Approaches

Favor health and wellness approaches that are accessible and inclusive to people of all diets and belief systems, rather than those that are exclusionary or alienating.

48. Offer Diverse Dietary Options

When providing food or lifestyle advice, ensure it includes diverse options (e.g., vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, keto) to make healthy living accessible to a broader audience.

The concept of the harder I work, the luckier I become is a form of positional chess. It's not that hard work necessarily makes you luckier. It's that putting in a lot of work positions you so that you will see more opportunities and be prepared to pounce on those opportunities because you're prepared.

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I just cured myself through literally food and lifestyle when everyone told me it was impossible. I'm going to spend all my time on that.

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Evolution is our strongest sort of scientific North star. And it was clear to me that we have been living in a way that's at odds with our evolution for at least a couple hundred years.

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Most of the modern food supply is literally poisoned. I'm more susceptible to it than most. But what affects me affects everybody.

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This is the first generation in human history that is predicted to live shorter than the previous. We are the sickest we've ever been on any objective measure.

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I think we might be the only company that buys other food companies and makes them better.

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If it isn't delicious, people aren't going to change their habits. That's number one. It has to be delicious or else people are going to feel like they're compromising and they're not going to do it.

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Balance is so important in life. And that sometimes when you start to develop habits that are working, it's easy to keep going and forget about balance.

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Jason Karp's Self-Healing Protocol (for severe illness)

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  1. Give up alcohol.
  2. Give up caffeine.
  3. Give up processed food.
  4. Experiment with various clean diets.
  5. Start teaching oneself how to sleep again (after forced insomnia).
  6. Reintroduce regular exercise.

Guidelines for Identifying 'Clean' Food Products

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  1. For any large, popular crop (e.g., soy, wheat, corn, cocoa, coffee), always choose organic due to the high risk of pesticide contamination.
  2. For any concentrated food product (e.g., juices, chocolate, coffee, flour), always choose organic, as pesticides become concentrated along with the food.
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US states with obesity rate above 20% in 1990 In 1990, no US states had an obesity rate above 20%.
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US states with obesity rate below 20% 30 years later Around 2020, no US states had an obesity rate below 20%.
21 years
Years Jason Karp spent in the hedge fund business Jason Karp's career in hedge funds before retiring.
$4 billion
Assets managed by Jason Karp's hedge fund The investment fund Tourbillon Capital Partners managed over $4 billion.
23 years old
Jason Karp's age when health issues began He was 23 when he started experiencing severe health problems, including vision loss.
30 years old
Age Jason Karp was predicted to be fully blind Doctors diagnosed him with an incurable eye disease and predicted full blindness by this age.
2 months
Time to reverse eye disease Approximate time it took Jason Karp to reverse his degenerative eye disease through diet and lifestyle changes.
200,000 years
Duration hominids have existed Minimum period humans (hominids) have been walking on two feet.
99.99%
Percentage of hominid existence as hunter-gatherers The vast majority of human evolutionary history was spent as hunter-gatherers.
85-15
Jason Karp's current clean eating ratio 85% of the time he eats very cleanly, 15% of the time he allows for less strict eating.
97-99%
Estimated US non-organic wheat crop with glyphosate The high percentage of non-organic US wheat containing traces of Monsanto's herbicide, Roundup.
70+
Ingredients in Totino's pizza bites The market leader in pizza bites has an ingredient label over 70 items long.
$800 million
Annual revenue of Totino's pizza bites The enormous business size of the market leader in pizza bites.
43 units
Number of True Food Kitchen locations Across 17 states, making it the largest health and wellness oriented full-service restaurant company in the US.
2012
Year Hu Kitchen opened The restaurant that was the first manifestation of Jason Karp's health principles.
2008
Year True Food Kitchen opened The restaurant founded by Dr. Andrew Weil, which HumanCo later invested in.