#109 - John Dudley: The beauty in archery, the love of practice, and a model system for life

May 4, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode features professional archer John Dudley, who shares insights from his journey to elite competition and exceptional teaching. He discusses his love for practice, the philosophy of archery as a model for life, and the often-misunderstood nature of hunting and its role in conservation.

At a Glance
28 Insights
2h 16m Duration
11 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Defining a Professional Archer and John's Motivation

John's Athletic Background and Early Archery Experiences

The Decision to Pursue Archery Over Football

A Traumatic Childhood Event and Its Impact on Drive

Understanding Archery Competitions and Bow Types

The Zen and Flow States in Archery Performance

Maintaining Credibility and Integrity in Business

John's Coaching Philosophy and Teaching Techniques

The Role of Hunting in Conservation and Ethics

Personal Transformation Through Hunting Experiences

Addressing Misconceptions and Promoting Ethical Hunting

Compound Bow

A type of bow with round wheels (cams) that store energy, making it easier to hold at full draw. This system allows for higher poundage at the beginning of the pull cycle, leading to greater accuracy and longer shooting distances compared to recurve bows.

Recurve Bow

A long bow with a handle and wooden limbs that bend, used in Olympic games. Unlike compound bows, the weight continually increases as the string is pulled back, making it harder to hold at full draw and resulting in lower arrow speeds.

Flow State (in Archery)

A state of hyper-focus and trance-like concentration achieved during repetitive tasks like archery or weightlifting. John Dudley describes experiencing this, sometimes being oblivious to external distractions, and believes it contributes to superior performance and can be linked to ADD.

Ego-Driven vs. Task-Driven Personalities

Two distinct athlete personality types. Ego-driven athletes may peak very high but can also decline quickly, while task-driven athletes (like John Dudley) tend to maintain peak performance levels for longer periods due to their focus on the process and continuous improvement.

Ethical Hunting

A practice rooted in conservation, where hunters aim to be the best archers possible to ensure a quick, humane kill. It involves understanding one's limitations, contributing to wildlife management through tag purchases, and valuing the connection to food sources.

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What does it mean to be a professional archer?

Being a professional archer involves competing on various pro tours with different rules and distances, often earning prize money from wins, and dedicating a lifetime to mastering the craft, often starting from bow hunting and evolving into target archery.

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What is the difference between Olympic archery and the type of archery John Dudley practices?

Olympic archery uses recurve bows, which are long bows where the draw weight continuously increases. John Dudley primarily shoots compound bows, which use cams to store energy, making them easier to hold at full draw, more accurate, and capable of higher arrow speeds.

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How does anger affect archery performance?

Anger makes archery performance worse because it is a sport of Zen and clarity, where one shoots better by trying less. Getting mad only exacerbates poor performance, as past shots cannot be changed, and focus should remain on the arrows yet to be shot.

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Can attention deficit disorder (ADD) be an advantage for high-level athletes?

John Dudley believes his ADD allows for hyper-focus and the ability to enter flow states, which can be an advantage in repetitive sports like archery. He describes being completely zoned out and oblivious to distractions during competition or practice.

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How do hunters contribute to wildlife conservation?

Hunters contribute to conservation by purchasing tags and licenses, with non-residents often paying more. These funds directly support state departments of natural resources for population studies, habitat management (like planting crops or wetland programs), and employing game wardens to ensure regulations are followed.

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What are the ethical considerations in hunting?

Ethical hunting requires hunters to be highly skilled to ensure a quick, humane kill, understanding their limitations on shots. It's seen as a way to obtain meat with full knowledge of its origin and to participate in the natural cycle of life, often fostering a deeper appreciation for food and nature.

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Why should someone consider trying archery, even if they don't want to hunt?

Archery is a beautiful sport that can be practiced for a long time, offering a Zen-like experience and a path to flow states. It teaches self-awareness, discipline, and is a powerful metaphor for life, focusing on controlling what's in your power (the next arrow) rather than dwelling on the past.

1. Focus on Controllable Future Actions

Release past mistakes and focus solely on the present and future actions you can control, understanding that you cannot change what has already happened, only what you do next.

2. Cultivate a Task-Driven Mindset

Prioritize a task-driven approach over an ego-driven one, as this mentality often leads to sustained high performance and long-term success, making you a reliable and valuable team member.

3. Develop a Love for Practice

To achieve world-class performance, cultivate a genuine love for the practice process itself, as this dedication to continuous improvement is a common trait among exceptional individuals.

4. Engage in Deliberate Practice

Beyond just practicing, ensure your practice is deliberate and correct, focusing on the right techniques and appreciating the nuanced effort required for true mastery.

5. Seek Out Challenges

Actively pursue aspects of a skill or field where you are currently poor, making it your mission to become proficient, as this approach fosters continuous growth and mastery.

6. Convert Failure into Drive

When faced with poor performance, channel frustration into a determined pursuit of knowledge and improvement, actively seeking out experts and asking detailed questions about their methods and equipment.

7. Maintain Unwavering Integrity

Uphold your integrity by only endorsing products you genuinely believe in, and when discussing products, focus on the strengths and benefits of what you support rather than criticizing competitors.

8. Highlight Your Strengths

In any competitive or professional setting, focus your communication on highlighting what you or your product do right and better, rather than dwelling on the negatives of others or your own shortcomings.

9. Relate Teaching to Learner’s Interests

When teaching, quickly identify and relate complex concepts to the specific interests or experiences of your learner, making the information more accessible and understandable.

10. Employ Analogies for Clarity

Use relatable analogies from a learner’s known experiences (e.g., car driving for shot execution) to effectively convey nuanced or complex instructions, leading to immediate understanding and application.

11. Refine Biomechanics for Finesse

Optimize your physical mechanics by isolating and utilizing smaller, intrinsic muscles for precise actions (e.g., rhomboids for archery release), leading to greater finesse and control rather than relying on larger, less precise muscle groups.

12. Master Foundational Fundamentals

Focus on mastering the fundamental aspects of any skill or sport, as a strong grasp of basics is crucial for sustained proficiency and continued engagement.

13. Train Consistently and Deliberately

Engage in consistent, repetitive practice, even during non-traditional hours, by setting up specific drills (e.g., throwing footballs into laundry baskets or garbage cans) to develop and refine skills.

14. Maximize Your Opportunities

Recognize that crucial moments may offer only one chance to demonstrate your best, so be prepared to perform optimally when those opportunities arise, as they can define outcomes.

15. Seek Out Coaching and Learning

Actively pursue opportunities to learn from coaches and experts, even independently, to gain specific purpose and improve performance.

16. Value Hands-On Apprenticeship

Seek out opportunities for hands-on, practical learning, even if initially unpaid, as the knowledge and skills gained through direct experience can be invaluable for long-term development.

17. Follow Your Passion Unwavering

When deeply passionate about a path, commit fully to it, even if it means defying conventional wisdom or advice from trusted figures, to pursue what genuinely excites you.

18. Embrace Zen for Better Performance

Approach performance with a mindset of Zen and clarity, understanding that excessive effort or anger can hinder results, and that often, trying less leads to better outcomes.

19. Harness Hyper-Focus for Flow

If you have a tendency towards hyper-focus (e.g., due to ADD), recognize and cultivate this trait to enter flow states during repetitive tasks or competitive activities, enhancing performance through deep concentration.

20. Guide Towards Better Alternatives

If you encounter an inferior product, avoid negative reviews and instead, proactively present and promote superior alternatives to guide people towards better options.

21. Foster Enjoyment in Children’s Learning

When introducing children to a new activity, prioritize making it fun and ensuring they experience frequent success, as this approach encourages sustained interest and involvement.

22. Provide Process-Oriented Feedback

When coaching children, focus feedback on their technique and execution rather than immediate results or scores, to prevent them from becoming overly dependent on external validation for their performance.

23. Practice Ethical Hunting Protocols

To hunt ethically, commit to becoming the absolute best archer possible, understand your limitations, and only take shots that ensure a quick, humane kill, prioritizing the animal’s welfare over personal desire.

24. Contribute to Wildlife Conservation

Participate in regulated hunting by purchasing tags and licenses, as the funds generated directly support state departments of natural resources and game and fish, which manage wildlife populations and fund conservation programs.

25. Cultivate Mindful Meat Consumption

Develop a deeper appreciation for the meat you consume by understanding its origin and the effort involved in sourcing it, which can lead to more meaningful meals and a reduced desire for processed foods.

26. Engage Positively in Polarizing Discussions

When discussing polarizing topics, especially those with strong opposition, choose to speak positively about your own practices and beliefs rather than provoking or criticizing opposing viewpoints, fostering better understanding.

27. Engage in Archery for Self-Discovery

Consider taking up archery, even without an interest in hunting, as it offers opportunities to cultivate Zen-like focus, achieve flow states, and gain profound self-awareness, serving as a powerful metaphor for life’s challenges.

28. Utilize Curated Archery Content

If interested in trying archery, access the curated step-by-step set of videos from John Dudley’s content, which simplifies learning and makes it easier than navigating all his material.

The only arrows you have control on are those ones that are in your quiver.

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You shoot better when you're trying less.

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Your integrity is the archery world is very small. And these bridges, there's only a few bridges. And when you burn them, they're burned. That's it.

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I'm a target archer in order to be a better bow hunter. And I'm a better bow hunter because I'm a target archer.

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If you focus on either what you're doing right, what your company's doing right, or what you want to do right, you're just going down a super shady road to pick on the things that people might not be doing right at that time.

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This is the most meaningful meal that I've ever done. That is what Thanksgiving should really be.

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$4.10
John Dudley's hourly wage at his first archery shop job After working for free for several weeks, he was offered this wage at 18 years old, after turning down a Division I football scholarship.
70 meters (77 yards)
Olympic recurve archery competition distance Professional archers shoot at this distance in Olympic-style events.
3-4 inches
Approximate diameter of the 10-ring at 90 meters The size of a Jocko coffee mug, which top professional compound archers can hit 8 out of 10 times at 90 meters.
701 out of 720
Brady Ellison's new world record score in recurve archery Achieved by hitting the 10-ring (inside a coffee cup) at 70 meters with a recurve bow over 72 shots.
$10,000 (guaranteed) to $15,000 (with contingency checks)
Typical payout for winning a professional compound archery event (rookie year) Higher payouts compared to recurve archery, with world championships paying $30,000 and the Vegas indoor tournament paying around $50,000.
750,000
Average number of deer shot annually in Wisconsin (when John lived there) Despite this, millions of dollars are paid out annually for deer-vehicle collision insurance claims, and hundreds of deaths occur nationwide from animal collisions.
200-250 miles
Estimated miles walked by John Dudley and Andy Stump to harvest their first elk Covered between August 24th and September 11th before successfully taking a shot.
Close to 500
Number of elk burgers served at a community thank you event by John Dudley's wife Made from the trim of an elk harvested by John.