#111 - AMA #14: What lab tests can (and cannot) inform us about our overall objective of longevity

May 18, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

In this AMA, Peter Attia, host of The Drive podcast, outlines his framework for interpreting lab tests in the context of longevity, focusing on what they can and cannot inform. He emphasizes delaying chronic disease onset over treating existing conditions, using patient case studies to illustrate his approach.

At a Glance
9 Insights
17m 11s Duration
7 Topics
3 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to AMA #14 and Lab Testing Framework

The Role of Lab Tests in Longevity

Lifespan vs. Healthspan in Longevity

Centenarian Studies: Delaying Disease Onset

Healthcare System's Focus on Sick Care vs. Prevention

Challenges in Treating Chronic Diseases Like Cancer and Alzheimer's

Progress in Managing Cardiovascular Disease

Longevity

Longevity is understood as a combination of lifespan (how long a person lives, which is binary) and healthspan (how well a person lives, which is harder to quantify). The overall objective is to maximize both components.

Phase Shift (Centenarians)

This concept describes how centenarians achieve longer lives: they experience a delay in the onset of chronic diseases, rather than living longer once a disease has taken hold. Their 'superpower' is delaying the first signs of illness.

Sick Care vs. Healthcare

The current system is primarily 'sick care,' meaning it reacts to diseases once they are present, focusing on diagnosis and treatment. It is not designed for proactive prevention or extending healthspan before disease onset.

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What is Peter's fundamental approach to using lab tests for patients?

Peter uses lab tests to understand how they fit into the broader objectives of longevity, specifically by identifying where labs provide valuable information and where blind spots exist regarding a patient's lifespan and healthspan.

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What are the two main components of longevity?

Longevity is comprised of lifespan, which is how long a person lives and is binary (alive or dead), and healthspan, which is how well a person lives and is more challenging to quantify.

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What is the most important lesson learned from studying centenarians?

Centenarians achieve longer lives not by living longer with diseases, but by delaying the onset of chronic diseases significantly, experiencing a 'phase shift' in when diseases appear.

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How does the current healthcare system typically function?

The healthcare system primarily operates as a 'sick care' system, focused on identifying and treating diseases once they have already manifested, rather than emphasizing prevention or proactive health management.

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How much progress has modern medicine made in treating metastatic cancer and Alzheimer's disease?

For metastatic cancer, there has been only about a 5% improvement in long-term survival over the last 50 years, and for Alzheimer's disease, billions have been spent with no drug yet able to reverse or significantly slow dementia progression.

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Which chronic disease has seen the most progress in management once it sets in?

Cardiovascular disease, particularly atherosclerosis, has seen the most progress in management due to its nature as a continuum and a better understanding of its disease process compared to cancer and dementia.

1. Prioritize Delaying Chronic Disease

To live longer, focus on delaying the onset of chronic diseases, as centenarians achieve longevity by delaying disease, not by living longer with it. This approach is the mathematical equivalent function of living longer.

2. Adopt a Proactive Health Mindset

Understand that a proactive approach to delaying chronic disease, while conceptually logical, differs from how most people interact with doctors, who are trained in a system of ‘sick care’ rather than prevention.

3. Contextualize Lab Results for Longevity

When reviewing lab results, take a step back and put them in the context of overall longevity objectives (lifespan and healthspan) to understand where labs add value and where you have blind spots.

4. Seek Professional Medical Advice

Do not use podcast information as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should always seek assistance from their healthcare professionals for any medical conditions they have.

5. Understand Lab Test Limitations

Learn a framework for what lab tests can and cannot inform to fully grasp their value and identify blind spots when undertaking advanced testing.

6. Recognize Healthcare System Limitations

Be aware that the current healthcare system is primarily geared towards managing disease once it sets in, rather than focusing on prevention or delaying its onset.

7. Seek Beyond Basic Health Advice

Recognize that standard medical advice from doctors may be limited to generalities like ‘don’t smoke, eat well, exercise,’ and a deeper understanding of risk is needed for advanced longevity strategies.

8. Consult Show Notes for Lab Ranges

Check the show notes for a compilation of Peter’s preferred lab ranges and cutoffs, as these values might not always reflect the ones seen on standard lab reports.

9. Submit Lab Questions

If you have specific lab questions or scenarios you want to dive into, let the podcast team know so they can be added to subsequent episodes.

They don't live longer once they get a disease. They just take longer to get a disease.

Peter Attia

If you want to live longer, the mathematical equivalent function is delay the onset of chronic disease, not figure out ways to live longer. Once you have chronic disease...

Peter Attia

Prevention is not really the mainstay of medicine. Medicine has had its greatest impacts or its greatest efforts basically on what to do once you have a disease, how do you live longer?

Peter Attia

We don't really function in a system of healthcare. We function in a system of sick care...

Peter Attia
5%
Improvement in long-term survival for metastatic cancer patients since 1970 Over a period of 50 years.