#237 ‒ Optimizing life for maximum fulfillment | Bill Perkins

Jan 9, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Bill Perkins, a hedge fund manager and author of "Die With Zero," discusses his philosophy challenging conventional views on health, wealth, and time. He argues for optimizing life for "net fulfillment" by having memorable experiences throughout life, rather than delaying gratification. The episode emphasizes breaking free from autopilot to live deliberately and allocate resources effectively.

At a Glance
19 Insights
1h 43m Duration
14 Topics
9 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Bill Perkins' Early Life and Wall Street Beginnings

Regret Over a Missed Backpacking Trip

Money, Time, and Life: The Utility of Money

Optimizing for Net Fulfillment and Life's Seasons

Risk Tolerance, Opportunity Cost, and Regret Minimization

Breaking Free from Autopilot and Discovering Purpose

The Importance of Ordering Life Experiences (Time Buckets)

Rethinking Philanthropy: Giving Money Sooner

Applying Die With Zero: Giving to Loved Ones Now

Strategies to Break Autopilot and Embrace Urgency

When Should Net Worth Peak for Maximum Utility?

Calculated Risks and Staying in the Game

Creating Shared Experiences: Bill's 45th Birthday

Evolution of Die With Zero Philosophy and Teaching Kids

Three Important Resources

The three variables to optimize for net fulfillment are wealth, health, and time. Money serves as a tool to trade between time and health to acquire experiences.

Net Fulfillment

The ultimate goal in life, which involves optimizing the allocation of one's time, health, and money to achieve the most fulfilling experiences, rather than solely maximizing net worth or health.

Utility of Money Over Time

Money's value and usefulness decrease as a person ages, primarily because older individuals have less capacity for certain experiences and a shorter 'runway' to enjoy their wealth compared to when they are younger.

Seasons of Life

Distinct periods in life (e.g., pre-marriage, with young children, middle age) that present unique opportunities for specific experiences. Some activities are only possible or most enjoyable during particular seasons and do not transfer well to later stages.

Opportunity Cost of Inaction

The often-overlooked cost associated with not making a decision or taking a risk. This can lead to significant regret later in life due to missed experiences or opportunities.

Regret Minimization Framework

A decision-making approach that prioritizes minimizing future regret. This involves evaluating choices not just by their immediate risks, but also by the potential regret of missing out on valuable experiences or opportunities.

Time Buckets

A method of segmenting one's life into specific chronological periods (e.g., 20-25, 35-40) to deliberately plan and order desired experiences. This acknowledges that certain activities are time-sensitive and best enjoyed at particular ages.

Memory Dividends

The lasting enjoyment and fulfillment derived from recalling past experiences. These dividends compound over time, making experiences had earlier in life more valuable than those delayed until later.

Autopilot Living

A state where daily habits and routines dictate life choices, often leading to a neglect of personal fulfillment and a disconnection from one's true desires and purpose. It's akin to a 'rat in a wheel' that continues running without a clear reward.

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What are the most important resources to optimize for a fulfilling life?

The three most important resources are wealth, health, and time, which should be allocated to solve for maximum net fulfillment rather than just maximizing any single one.

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Why is it important to have experiences throughout life instead of waiting until retirement?

The utility of money and the capacity for certain experiences diminish significantly with age and declining health, meaning delaying experiences can lead to missing out or having less fulfilling versions of them.

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How can one break free from living life on autopilot?

Breaking autopilot involves deliberately thinking about what truly fulfills you, recognizing the finite nature of life and its 'seasons,' and actively planning and prioritizing experiences rather than letting routine dictate choices.

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How should one approach financial risk in life?

Instead of solely minimizing risk, one should adopt a regret minimization framework, considering the opportunity cost of inaction and taking calculated risks that align with maximizing net fulfillment.

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When should a person's net worth ideally peak?

Net worth should ideally peak much earlier than retirement, possibly in one's 50s, to align with the period of life when one has the highest capacity (health and time) to enjoy experiences that money can buy.

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Is it better to give charitable donations or gifts to loved ones after death or while alive?

It is generally more impactful and provides greater utility to give money to charities or loved ones earlier in life, as the recipients can use the funds when they have a higher capacity for enjoyment and the money can have a compounding positive effect.

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How can one appreciate the finite nature of life and make more deliberate choices?

Tools like a 'death clock' or a calendar marking off weeks can serve as visceral reminders of life's finite nature, fostering urgency and encouraging more deliberate choices about how to spend time and resources.

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How can people overcome the fear of spending their savings?

By understanding their 'survival number' for retirement, mitigating specific fears with appropriate insurance (e.g., long-term care), and recognizing the opportunity cost of not experiencing life now versus saving for unlikely or inefficiently insured future events.

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How should parents teach their children about money?

Parents should teach their children that money is a tool, not inherently good or bad, and provide them with the instruction manual on how to use it effectively to choose their own adventures and achieve fulfillment.

1. Optimize Life for Experiences

Actively optimize your life to have experiences throughout, rather than deferring them until the end of life, as time is your most important asset.

2. Prioritize Net Fulfillment

Shift your primary life goal from maximizing wealth or even health to maximizing ’net fulfillment,’ which is the overall satisfaction derived from your life’s experiences.

3. Avoid Autopilot Living

Actively resist living life on autopilot, especially concerning work and fulfillment, by regularly pausing to make deliberate choices about how you allocate your time and resources.

4. Understand Time as Currency

Calculate your ’true hourly wage’ (after tax, all-in) and then convert monetary costs into ‘hours of your life’ to viscerally understand the true value exchange and align spending with your core values.

5. Plan with Life’s Seasons

Segment your life into ’time buckets’ (e.g., 20-25, 35-40) and plan desired leisure, career, and experiences for each period, recognizing that certain activities are only possible or most fulfilling at specific ages.

6. Embrace Regret Minimization

Frame your life decisions using a ‘regret minimization’ algorithm, prioritizing choices that will lead to the least regret on your deathbed, rather than solely minimizing financial risk.

7. Utilize All Resources Before Death

Plan to use up all your resources—time, health, and money—for experiences and fulfillment before you die, rather than accumulating a surplus that goes unused.

8. Identify Your ‘Party’ Goals

Clearly define what you are saving for and when you plan to ‘party’ (use up your resources for experiences), rather than indefinitely accumulating wealth without a clear purpose.

9. Give Money Early and Thoughtfully

Engage in philanthropy and give financial gifts to loved ones earlier in life, as smaller amounts given sooner can have a greater impact and utility for recipients than larger sums inherited later.

10. Leverage Memory Dividends

Invest in experiences that generate ‘memory dividends,’ providing ongoing enjoyment and connection through recollection and shared stories with others, rather than fleeting consumption.

11. Mitigate Risk with Insurance

Use professional insurance products (e.g., long-term care, life insurance) to mitigate specific financial risks, rather than self-insuring by over-saving, to free up resources for living your life.

12. Re-evaluate Work’s Role

Critically assess your relationship with work, recognizing that many social and mental benefits can be found and cultivated outside of a job, to prevent work from becoming your sole source of fulfillment.

13. Cultivate Non-Work Social Skills

Actively develop social skills and interests outside of your professional life, such as planning personal trips or hosting gatherings, to foster broader fulfillment and discovery.

14. Use a Death Clock/Memento Mori

Employ a ‘death clock’ or a 4,000-week calendar to visually track the passage of time, serving as a visceral reminder of life’s finitude and the urgency of living deliberately.

15. Aim for Net Worth Peak in 50s

Consider aiming for your net worth to peak in your 50s, aligning your maximum financial capacity with your physical ability to enjoy experiences before health inevitably declines.

16. Scholarship Friends for Experiences

Offer to cover costs for friends and family (‘scholarship your friends’) to enable shared experiences, recognizing that the value of shared moments often outweighs the financial cost.

17. Teach Kids Money as Tool

Educate your children that money is a tool, not inherently good or bad, and instruct them on how to use it effectively to achieve their own fulfillment and chosen adventures.

18. Adapt Activities to Health

Adapt physical activities to your current health and age, choosing lower-impact versions of sports or experiences as your body changes, to continue enjoying them safely and fulfilling.

19. Read Foundational Quality-of-Life Books

Read books like ‘From Strength to Strength,’ ‘4,000 Weeks,’ and ‘Die With Zero’ to gain diverse perspectives and actionable insights on optimizing quality of life and time allocation.

I'm more worried about looking back and being like, shit, I wasted my only ride that I had then running out of money.

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Life is like Tetris. You got to get the order right in order to get the high score of net fulfillment.

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When you're dead, the money isn't yours.

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The name of the game is to stay in the game.

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You don't write books to get rich. You write books to get your point across. And for me, I see it as saving lives.

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Money is a tool much like a hammer and saw and nails and rail guns. Do hammers and saws build houses? No. You need to know how to use those tools. People build those houses.

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Optimizing Life for Net Fulfillment

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  1. Identify your three core variables: wealth, health, and time.
  2. Define your life's purpose as solving for maximum net fulfillment, rather than simply accumulating wealth or health.
  3. Consider the 'seasons of your life' and how certain experiences are best suited for specific age periods or life stages.
  4. Calculate your 'survival number' to determine the minimum financial resources needed for a secure retirement.
  5. Allocate remaining resources (money, time) to prioritize experiences, especially those that are time-sensitive or offer significant 'memory dividends.'
  6. Actively challenge autopilot thinking by regularly asking yourself 'What do I truly want?' and 'When is the optimal time to have this experience?'
  7. Mitigate financial and health risks by purchasing appropriate insurance policies (e.g., long-term care) rather than relying on excessive savings as a personal insurance fund.
  8. Consider giving money to loved ones and charities earlier in life, as it often provides greater utility and impact to recipients when they are younger.
$16,000
Bill Perkins' approximate annual salary at his first job as a screen clerk Sub $16,000 per year
$40,000
Amount Bill Perkins gave his mother to repay her for a car incident Given to his mom for a teenage car accident lie
1 in 10,000
Bill Perkins' approximate physical risk tolerance threshold If danger exceeds this, the reward must be significant.
211
Number of steps climbed at St. Petersburg Elderly tourists on tour buses did not climb these steps.
45
Bill Perkins' age during his 'incredible birthday' experience The birthday described in the book
80-100
Approximate number of guests at Bill Perkins' 45th birthday party Held in St. Bart's, where he rented out a hotel
50
Maximum estimated times Bill Perkins will see any non-married pair of friends An 'over under' estimate for any pair not married to each other
20
Estimated times Bill Perkins will see most friends in his lifetime A general estimate for people he knows
2019
Year Bill Perkins finished writing 'Die With Zero' Book was published in 2020
44%
Reduction in force when falling in wake surfing vs. wakeboarding Due to speed difference (10 mph vs 12 mph), force equals MV squared
$15,000
Maximum tax-free gift per person per year Amount Bill Perkins considered giving to a list of people
25 to 33
Age range for children to receive trust money Deemed optimal for mental and physical maturity, not in decline