#313 - AMA #62: Protein's impact on appetite and weight management, and uric acid's link to disease and how to manage levels

Aug 12, 2024 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Peter Attia and co-host Nick Stenson discuss uric acid's role in metabolic processes, its link to diseases like gout, kidney stones, and cardiovascular disease, and modifiable factors influencing its levels. They also introduce protein's impact on appetite and weight management.

At a Glance
6 Insights
24m 10s Duration
8 Topics
4 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to AMA #62: Uric Acid and Protein

Discussion on the Utility of a Fanny Pack

Understanding Uric Acid: Definition and Importance

Uric Acid's Role in Gout and Kidney Stones

The Link Between Uric Acid and High Blood Pressure

Non-Modifiable Factors Influencing Uric Acid Levels

Modifiable Factors That Increase Uric Acid

Uric Acid's Potential Relationship with Cardiovascular Disease

Uric Acid

Uric acid is a metabolite produced from the breakdown of purines, which are building blocks of DNA and RNA. It is also a metabolite of fructose. High levels can lead to various pathologies.

Gout

Gout is an incredibly painful inflammatory condition that occurs when uric acid crystallizes in joints, most commonly the big toe. These crystals are highly inflammatory and can cause severe discomfort.

Hyperuricemia

Hyperuricemia refers to high levels of uric acid in the blood. It is known to contribute to high blood pressure and is associated with conditions like fatty liver disease and type 2 diabetes.

Mendelian Randomization (MR)

Mendelian randomization is a valuable tool used to establish causality when studying a biomarker or phenotype with significant genetic variation. It helps determine if a correlation between a biomarker (like uric acid) and a disease is truly causal by analyzing genetic distributions.

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What topics will AMA #62 cover?

This AMA episode will focus on uric acid, specifically its relationship with various disease states and the concept of causality, and protein, exploring its impact on appetite, satiety, and weight management.

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What is uric acid and why should people care about this metric?

Uric acid is a metabolite resulting from the breakdown of purines (DNA/RNA building blocks) and fructose. People should care because high levels are associated with gout, kidney stones, and high blood pressure, and may have a causal link to cardiovascular disease.

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What non-modifiable factors influence uric acid levels?

Non-modifiable factors include sex (men generally have higher levels), genetics (approximately 40% heritability), and age (levels tend to increase with age, especially in women post-menopause).

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What modifiable factors can cause uric acid levels to rise?

Modifiable factors include chronic high fructose consumption (especially in liquid form), high adiposity/obesity, certain medications like diuretics and low-dose aspirin, consumption of purine-rich foods (e.g., meat, sardines, beer), nutritional ketosis or starvation, and heavy bouts of anaerobic exercise.

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Why does being in ketosis or fasting increase uric acid levels?

During ketosis or fasting, the primary ketone, beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB), competes with uric acid for the same transporter in the kidney responsible for excretion, leading to impaired uric acid secretion and elevated levels.

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How does uric acid relate to blood pressure?

High levels of uric acid contribute to high blood pressure, a relationship demonstrated experimentally and through Mendelian randomization studies, which show that as uric acid levels go up, so does blood pressure, and vice versa.

1. Reduce Fructose Intake

Decrease chronic consumption of high amounts of fructose, especially in liquid form, as it drives uric acid production and can contribute to increased eating and obesity.

2. Limit High-Purine Foods & Alcohol

Reduce intake of foods very high in purines, such as sardines, red meat, and high amounts of alcohol (disproportionately beer), to decrease uric acid production.

3. Monitor Uric Acid During Ketosis/Fasting

Be aware that being in nutritional ketosis or starvation ketosis (fasting) can significantly increase uric acid levels due to competition with beta-hydroxybutyrate in the kidneys.

4. Prioritize Protein for Satiation

Utilize protein intake to impact appetite and satiation, which can help in weight control and prevent protein deficiency-related obesity.

5. Lower Uric Acid for CVD Risk

Understand that if uric acid is causally related to cardiovascular disease, then actively lowering uric acid levels would reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease.

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I would bet that the same number of people who think that the fanny pack is a faux pas are probably equal in proportion, not necessarily the same people, but equal in proportion to the number of people who think HRT causes breast cancer or TRT causes prostate cancer.

Peter Atiyah

Most of our understanding of it, of course, is associated with pathology and most of that pathology centers around gout.

Peter Atiyah

If you've ever had this, people listening will know it is incredibly painful.

Peter Atiyah

MR is a really valuable tool for establishing causality when you are studying a biomarker or a phenotype for which there is great genetic variation.

Peter Atiyah

I did. That's one of the beauties of the fanny pack is you can transport protein.

Peter Atiyah
0.5 to 1 milligram per deciliter higher
Average uric acid level difference between men and women Men typically have higher uric acid levels than women. Peter's personal observation suggests the difference might be even larger, around 1 to 2 mg/dL.
40%
Heritability of uric acid levels Nearly half of an individual's uric acid value is determined genetically.
from 5 to 9 or 10 mg/dL
Uric acid level increase during significant fast Peter's personal experience during significant fasts, when ketone levels approached 4-5 millimole.
4 and 5 millimole
Ketone levels during significant fast Correlated with Peter's uric acid levels rising from 5 to 9 or 10 mg/dL.