#72 - Dan Harris: 10% happier – meditation, kindness, and compassion

Sep 23, 2019 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dan Harris, ABC News correspondent and co-founder of Ten Percent Happier, discusses his journey from a live TV panic attack, fueled by addiction and insecurity, to discovering meditation. He shares practical advice for new meditators, dispels myths, and highlights the self-interested benefits of kindness and compassion.

At a Glance
21 Insights
2h 24m Duration
20 Topics
9 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Dan Harris and the 10% Happier App

Dan's Panic Attack on Live Television

Exploring the Roots of Dan's Drive and Addiction

Addiction as a Spectrum: Socially Acceptable Forms

Childhood Insecurities and Intergenerational Trauma

The Self-Interested Case for Kindness and Compassion

Mindfulness as an Antidote to Anger and Grandiosity

Dan's Skeptical Journey to Discovering Meditation

Misconceptions About Meditation: State vs. Trait

Distinguishing Between Being Present and Being Mindful

Buddhism 101: The Buddha's Story and Four Noble Truths

Dan's First Meditation Session and Initial Humility

Lessons from a 10-Day Silent Meditation Retreat

Evolution of Dan's Meditation Practice Over a Decade

Impact of a 360 Review on Self-Perception and Growth

Applying Meditation to Personal Crises: Cancer and Infertility

How Meditation Improves Marital Relationships

Preventing the Transmission of Shame and Trauma to Children

Reconciling Professional Ambition with Inner Peace

The Importance of Letting Children See Parental Flaws

Addiction as a Spectrum

Addiction isn't limited to extreme cases like drug abuse; it exists on a spectrum encompassing common behaviors like phone use, professional success, shopping, or drinking. People with socially acceptable addictions may be at a disadvantage because their behaviors are often rewarded, delaying recognition of the problem.

The Voice in Your Head / Monkey Mind

This refers to the incessant inner narrator or running dialogue in our minds, constantly thinking about the past or future. If one is unaware of this nonstop conversation, it can control and cause suffering, as described in Buddhist philosophy.

Mindfulness

Mindfulness is the ability to know what is happening in your head at any given moment without getting carried away by it. It is a skill developed through meditation that allows for self-awareness of inner weather, preventing emotions from dictating reactions.

Being Present vs. Mindful

Being present means being fully engaged in the current moment, like a Labrador or a young child, without dwelling on the past or future. Mindfulness adds a metacognitive layer, meaning you are present and also *aware* that you are present, observing your consciousness without being swept away by it.

State vs. Trait (in Meditation)

Meditation is not primarily about achieving a specific calm or blissful state during the practice itself. Instead, the goal is to cultivate lasting changes in one's character and daily life (traits), such as improved emotional regulation and clearer perception, that extend beyond the meditation session.

Four Noble Truths

These are the seminal teachings of the Buddha: 1) Life is inherently unsatisfactory because everything is impermanent, leading to suffering if one clings to things. 2) The root of this suffering is desire or insatiability. 3) There is a way out of this suffering. 4) The Eightfold Path is the way to end suffering, encompassing ethical and meditation practices.

Wise Selfishness

This concept, attributed to the Dalai Lama, suggests that being kind and compassionate is the ultimate form of selfishness. It means acting kindly not just for others, but because it leads to greater personal happiness, health, and popularity, as supported by scientific evidence.

Helper's High

This describes the physiological and psychological benefits experienced when helping others. Acts of service or kindness release feel-good chemicals in the brain, similar to the pleasure derived from eating chocolate, making it a universally rewarding human experience.

Piti

A Pali word referring to a body high or rapture that can arise from deep concentration during meditation. It manifests as pleasant physical sensations like tingling, but meditators are cautioned not to become overly focused on desiring this state.

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What was the pivotal moment that led Dan Harris to explore meditation and self-discovery?

The pivotal moment was a panic attack Dan experienced live on national television in 2004, which he later discovered was linked to self-medicating with cocaine after returning from war zones.

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How do childhood experiences and family history contribute to adult drives and insecurities?

Dan's childhood insecurity about wealth compared to peers and a desire for self-protection, possibly linked to intergenerational trauma and a stern grandfather, fueled his professional ambition and created an itch he constantly tried to scratch.

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Why should people prioritize kindness and compassion, even if they are skeptical?

Kindness and compassion are beneficial not just for others, but for one's own well-being; compassionate people are often happier, healthier, more successful, and more popular, making it a form of 'wise selfishness' that feels good in the moment.

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How can mindfulness help individuals manage difficult emotions like anger and grandiosity?

Mindfulness, the ability to observe one's thoughts and emotions without being carried away, allows individuals to see the 'honey tip but poison root' of anger and the discomfort of grandiosity, enabling them to choose not to react impulsively.

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What are the core teachings of Buddhism and the story of the Buddha?

The historical Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, was a prince who, after witnessing suffering, sought enlightenment by transcending greed, hatred, and confusion. His core teachings, the Four Noble Truths, explain that life is unsatisfactory due to impermanence and desire, but there is a path (the Eightfold Path) to reduce suffering.

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What is the biggest misconception new meditators have, and how should they approach the practice?

New meditators often mistakenly believe the goal is to stop thinking or achieve a specific blissful state, leading to discouragement. The actual goal is to notice when the mind wanders and gently return to the object of focus (like the breath), cultivating self-awareness rather than a particular feeling.

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How does one overcome the challenge of 'trying too hard' in meditation?

Trying too hard in meditation, driven by the desire for a specific outcome, can create internal resistance. The key is to surrender to the process, simply noticing what arises without judgment or effort to make something special happen, allowing genuine presence to unfold.

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How has Dan Harris's meditation practice evolved over 10 years?

Over 10 years, Dan's practice has led to quicker recognition of distractions and a warmer, less self-critical reaction to them. He also experiences more pleasant sensations and a 'body high' (piti) due to improved concentration, though he cautions against desiring these states.

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How can individuals process and grow from harsh self-assessments like a 360 review?

After a devastating 360 review, one can process it by focusing on positive feedback first, then examining negative feedback with curiosity rather than shame. It's helpful to understand that unskillful behaviors often served a primordial need, allowing for a warmer, more accepting approach to self-improvement.

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How can parents prevent the transmission of shame and trauma to their children?

Parents can prevent transmitting shame by being open about their own flaws and struggles, modeling a supple and warm relationship with their inner demons. This teaches children that it's okay to have imperfections and provides them with tools to navigate their own complexities without shame.

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Can professional success be maintained or even enhanced by addressing negative internal drives and insecurities?

While negative drives like insecurity can fuel ambition, it's possible to shift the ratio towards more wholesome motivations like service, leading to a more enjoyable and less 'clenched up' approach to work. This may involve redefining success and operating from a place of feeling safe, rather than constantly angling for the next achievement.

1. Understand Addiction as Spectrum

Recognize that addiction isn’t limited to substance abuse but extends to many behaviors like phone use, professional success, or shopping. Identifying these patterns is a critical first step towards change and self-awareness.

2. Cultivate Mindfulness for Self-Awareness

Develop the ability to know what’s happening in your mind at any given moment without being carried away by it. This skill, primarily developed through meditation, helps you observe your inner weather without being consumed by it.

3. Recognize Thoughts Are Not You

Become aware of the constant inner dialogue and understand that this stream of thoughts is separate from your true self. Unobserved, this ‘voice in your head’ can be a significant source of suffering.

4. Meditate for Trait Changes

Focus on how meditation improves your behavior and mindset in daily life (e.g., better responses to stress), rather than expecting constant bliss or calm during the meditation session itself. The goal is to get better at life, not just meditation.

5. Embrace Kindness for Well-being

Engage in acts of kindness and compassion, not just for altruism, but because it releases feel-good chemicals and improves your own happiness, health, and popularity. This ‘wise selfishness’ benefits both yourself and others.

6. Act on Kind Impulses

If you notice an impulse to give something or compliment someone, follow through. These small acts can make you feel good and have positive, unpredictable effects on your inner state and the world around you.

7. Reframe Anger and Grandiosity

Use mindfulness to observe the fleeting pleasure (the ‘honey tip’) of anger or grandiosity, and the subsequent negative feelings or shame (the ‘poison root’). This awareness helps break the cycle and allows for more skillful responses.

8. Explore Primordial Wounds

Work with a coach or therapist to uncover early life needs (love, safety, belonging) and how unaddressed issues from your past might be unconsciously controlling your adult life. Understanding these ‘five-year-old logic’ patterns is key to personal growth.

9. Avoid ‘Trying Too Hard’

Cultivate genuine surrender and allow whatever happens to happen during meditation, as excessive effort or desire for specific outcomes (like bliss or a breakthrough) can actually hinder the practice. It’s like a video game where not wanting to move forward is the only way to progress.

10. Respond to Distractions Warmly

When your mind wanders or judges yourself during meditation, respond with acceptance and warmth rather than self-flagellation. This fosters a more positive inner environment and teaches your mind that self-awareness isn’t a punishment.

11. Use Feedback for Growth

When confronted with critical feedback (e.g., a 360 review), approach it with curiosity and a desire to understand the underlying needs driving unskillful behaviors, rather than falling into shame or self-flagellation. Self-knowledge, though sometimes ‘bad news,’ is always useful.

12. Focus on Positive Feedback

Consciously direct your attention to positive comments when receiving mixed feedback to balance the natural evolutionary tendency to dwell on negatives. This helps counteract the negativity bias and provides a more balanced self-perception.

13. Model Flaws for Children

Allow your children to see your struggles, imperfections, and efforts to improve. This demonstrates that it’s okay to have flaws and to work on them, thereby reducing the transmission of shame and equipping them to relate to their own complexities.

14. Be of Service to Loved Ones

Step up to be useful and supportive to someone you love, especially during their suffering. Being of service feels inherently good (the ‘helper’s high’) and fosters deeper connection and personal growth.

15. Cultivate Better Communication Skills

Practice active listening and phrase assertions less provocatively to improve day-to-day interactions and foster smoother relationships. This involves training your baseline level of friendliness and ability to lean in.

16. Re-evaluate Professional Success

Consider if your current definition of success aligns with your overall well-being. It may be beneficial to shift focus from constant ambition to enjoying current work and pursuing other passions, even if it means stepping back from traditional career peaks.

17. Shift Motivations to Wholesome

Consciously work to reduce the influence of purely external drivers like seeking attention or wealth, and instead cultivate motivations rooted in service and genuine enjoyment. This allows you to operate from a ‘cooler space’ with less internal friction.

18. Operate from Feeling Safe

Recognize your baseline security and approach daily tasks and meetings from a relaxed, appreciative state, rather than being driven by high stakes or clenching up. This mindset can change how you show up and improve outcomes.

19. Be Patient with Meditation

Understand that meditation is not a magic fix but a gradual journey of marginal improvements, and occasional setbacks or ‘backsliding’ are a normal part of the process. Consistency over perfection is key.

20. Avoid Recreational Drugs

Do not use recreational drugs, especially cocaine, as they can alter brain chemistry and increase the likelihood of panic attacks and other adverse mental health outcomes. Seek healthier ways to cope with stress or depression.

21. Don’t Evangelize Meditation

While meditation can be transformative, avoid pushing it on others. Instead, share your personal experience and insights when it feels natural and productive, allowing others to discover it on their own terms.

Addiction is a spectrum. You may think you're not an addict because you don't have a needle hanging out of your arm. But that needle hanging out of your arm is just the extreme end of the spectrum. But we're all addicted to lots of things.

Dan Harris

Anger... has a honey tip, but a poison root.

Dan Harris (attributing to the Buddha)

We don't meditate to get better at meditation, meditate to get better at life.

Dan Harris

Self-knowledge is always bad news.

Joseph Goldstein

You're trying too hard. Don't try too hard. Just do, you know, notice your breath when it's coming in and when it's going out. When you get distracted, start again. Don't, you know, you're going to get distracted. Don't try to make anything special happen. Just stop trying to hurt.

Spring Washam (as told by Dan Harris)

If you try too hard, you will tangle yourself up in knots. One of the classic hindrances to meditation is desire. If you want it too hard, you're going to shoot yourself in the foot. It's like a weird video game where the only way to move forward is to not want to move forward.

Dan Harris

The 10% Happier spirit... there is no magic. It's really about marginal improvement over time with an escape valve for backsliding. Because that's just, I think my understanding of how human behavior works based on an end of one. But I think it's a pretty universal, I think we're all kind of in the same bucket in some ways.

Dan Harris

Beginner Meditation Practice

Dan Harris
  1. Sit down and set a timer for a few minutes.
  2. Focus on the feeling of your breath coming in and going out.
  3. When you notice your mind has become distracted (which is inevitable), gently bring your attention back to your breath.
  4. Repeat this process of noticing distraction and returning to the breath over and over, celebrating each time you notice you've wandered.

Processing a 360 Review for Self-Improvement

Jerry Colonna (as described by Dan Harris)
  1. Review the positive feedback first, allowing yourself to acknowledge strengths.
  2. Approach the negative feedback with curiosity and interest, rather than shame or self-flagellation.
  3. Identify underlying, often unskillful, primordial needs that the negative behaviors might have been serving.
  4. Cultivate a warm, accepting relationship with these past patterns, acknowledging they are no longer needed, and work towards more skillful responses.
5.019 million
Audience size for Dan Harris's live TV panic attack In 2004, during Good Morning America
a little over five years ago
Years since Peter Attia read Dan Harris's book As of the podcast recording
10 or 11 years now
Dan Harris's meditation practice duration As of the podcast recording
2,600 years ago
Approximate time the Buddha lived Circa 600 BC
six years
Duration of Buddha's self-mortification period Before his enlightenment
41 pages
Length of Dan Harris's 360 review report Qualitative report with direct quotes
16 people
Number of people interviewed for Dan Harris's 360 review Including peers, subordinates, superiors, and personal contacts
66
Peter Jennings' age at death Died in 2005 from lung cancer