Bryony Gordon on OCD, Overcoming Addiction and Building Mental Resilience #314

Nov 23, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Bryony Gordon, a mental health campaigner, journalist, and author, candidly discusses her lifelong struggles with OCD, addiction (alcohol, drugs, bulimia), and depression. She shares her journey to recovery, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, self-acceptance, and reframing challenges as opportunities for growth.

At a Glance
41 Insights
1h 55m Duration
17 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Bryony Gordon's Story and Work

Understanding Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

The Reality of Pure O and Intrusive Thoughts

Connecting OCD to Alcohol and Drug Addiction

Bryony's Journey with Alcoholism and Sobriety

Societal Views on Addiction and Work Addiction

The Addictive Nature of Social Media and Validation

Realizing Alcohol's Priority Over Her Daughter

Cocaine Addiction and Its Role in Reaching Rock Bottom

Understanding Bulimia and Disordered Eating Patterns

Navigating Holiday Pressures and Resolutions

The Unifying Cause of Mental Health Struggles

Parenting Lessons Learned Through Recovery

Marathon Running: From Addiction to Body Acceptance

Challenging Diet Culture and Body Image Norms

Practical Advice for Improving Mental Well-being

The Power of Small Acts of Service

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

OCD is often misunderstood as just excessive tidiness; Bryony explains it as a condition involving dark, intrusive thoughts and compulsions, leading to severe distress and rumination, which she calls 'the doubting disease'.

Pure O (Pure Obsessional OCD)

This is a type of OCD characterized by intrusive thoughts without visible compulsions. Sufferers become distressed by these thoughts (e.g., fears of harming others) and ruminate obsessively to check they are not the thought itself.

Addiction as Illness of Denial

Addiction, like other mental illnesses, is unique in that it tells the sufferer they don't have it. This self-gaslighting is a symptom that allows the illness to thrive by convincing the individual they are not truly addicted.

Work Addiction

This concept highlights how society often sanctions and celebrates excessive work as a 'great work ethic'. However, it can be an addiction stemming from a desperate need to fill an emotional void, coming at a significant personal cost.

Orthorexia

A form of disordered eating where an obsession with 'clean eating' or extreme health consciousness becomes unhealthy. It represents disordered eating patterns disguised as a pursuit of health, often leading to rigid and restrictive behaviors.

Anxiety and Depression as a Cure

This perspective suggests that anxiety and depression are often the brain's signals that an individual is living inauthentically or in a way that is not true to themselves. These feelings can serve as a prompt for necessary change and self-reflection.

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What is the common misconception about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?

People often reduce OCD to excessive tidiness or needing things in order, but Bryony clarifies it's a serious condition involving dark, obsessive thoughts and compulsions that can be torturous.

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How does Bryony Gordon describe the experience of living with OCD?

She describes it as 'awful, awful' and torturous, a 'doubting disease' where the brain constantly questions visible reality, leading to intense rumination and anxiety about intrusive thoughts.

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Why did Bryony Gordon use alcohol and drugs despite their negative consequences?

Alcohol and drugs served as a coping mechanism, providing a temporary escape from the intense pain and intrusive thoughts of her untreated OCD, acting as a means to get through life when no other treatment options felt available.

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What is the 'ism' in alcoholism, according to Bryony Gordon?

The 'ism' refers to the underlying mental wiring or trauma-based response that predisposes her brain to addiction, indicating that the core issue extends beyond the substance itself.

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How does social media contribute to addictive behaviors and mental health struggles?

Social media apps are designed to addict users through dopamine rewards (likes, shares), leading to a compulsive need for validation and comparison, and can dictate one's self-worth based on algorithmic feedback.

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What is Bryony Gordon's perspective on the relationship between obesity and mental illness?

She theorizes that obesity is as much a mental illness as a physical one, often linked to disordered eating patterns like binge eating, and emphasizes that shame cannot cure mental illness.

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What is the unifying cause behind various mental health struggles like OCD, addiction, and depression?

Bryony believes the common thread is the brain attempting to cope with a human being living their life in a way that isn't true to themselves, acting as a protective mechanism.

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How has recovery changed Bryony Gordon's approach to parenting?

She has learned that children are not extensions of parents and that she cannot control everything, focusing instead on enjoying the present moment and allowing her daughter to feel her feelings without judgment.

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Why did Bryony Gordon decide to run a marathon in her underwear?

She wanted to show other 'curvy ladies' that their bodies are capable of amazing things and challenge the notion that exercise is solely about shrinking oneself or fitting a certain aesthetic.

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What is Bryony Gordon's primary motivation for exercising now?

She exercises for the growth properties, clarity, space, endorphins, and time outside, rather than for shrinking her body or making herself look better, focusing on feeling better instead.

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What is the significance of 'small acts of service' in improving mental well-being?

Engaging in small acts of service, like making someone a cup of tea, helps combat feelings of uselessness and shifts perspective from self-centered resentment to gratitude and connection, making one feel useful.

1. Live Authentically for Well-being

Recognize that many mental health issues, including OCD, addiction, anxiety, and depression, are often signals from your brain that you are living in a way that is ’not true to yourself.’ Listen to these signals as they are your brain’s attempt to protect you.

2. Listen to Your Body’s Signals

In a fast-paced modern life, resist the urge to numb uncomfortable thoughts or feelings with distractions like alcohol, food, or social media. Instead, sit with your thoughts and listen to the signals your body is sending, as they are trying to tell you something important.

3. Practice Self-Acceptance

Accept all parts of yourself, including ‘bad’ or ‘irresponsible’ thoughts, without labeling yourself as a bad person for having them. Step back and question if acting on those thoughts would be a good idea, rather than shaming yourself.

4. Avoid Isolation for Mental Health

Actively resist the urge to isolate, especially when struggling with mental health issues, as isolation allows the problem to take hold. Instead, force yourself to go out, call someone, or be around people, even if you don’t want to.

5. Do the Opposite of Urges

If your brain is ‘wired slightly wrong’ and you have urges to do things that are unhealthy (e.g., drink, drugs, eat junk, stay up late), consider doing the opposite. Conversely, if you don’t want to do something healthy (e.g., run, get up, call someone), you should probably do it.

6. Embrace Uncertainty and Change

Acknowledge that you know very little and have no control over future events. Understand that feelings, perspectives, and even unhealthy habits are not permanent and can change massively over time, fostering hope and adaptability.

7. Process Difficult Emotions

Allow yourself to experience and go through difficult feelings rather than suppressing them, as these emotions are present for a reason and processing them often leads to feeling better afterwards.

8. Embrace the Process, Not Shortcuts

Resist the addictive tendency to desire immediate gratification or to reach a goal ‘from A to Z without going through B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K.’ Understand that genuine change and feeling better require doing the necessary work and experiencing the process.

9. Avoid Self-Medicating with Substances

Do not attempt to treat mental health struggles or pain with alcohol or drugs, as this can lead to destructive patterns and addiction. Bryony used alcohol as an escape when no other treatment options were available, which led to further problems.

10. Reject Diet Culture Messaging

Challenge the pervasive ‘diet culture’ that instills beliefs like ‘you can be better,’ ‘you are not enough,’ or ‘you are too much.’ Recognize that these messages prevent self-liking and are detrimental to self-esteem.

11. Stop Hating Your Body

Cultivate a desire to stop hating your body, as it’s a ‘waste of time’ and energy. Focus on body acceptance rather than chasing an elusive concept of ‘confidence.’

12. Exercise for Growth, Not Shrinking

Shift your motivation for exercise from punishing yourself or ‘shrinking’ your body to focusing on its ‘growth properties,’ such as mental clarity, space, endorphins, and time outdoors. This perspective can transform your relationship with physical activity.

13. Prioritize Health Over Size

Focus on actual healthy behaviors like regular running, cold water swimming, and strength training, rather than societal ‘popular metrics’ of size or BMI. True health can exist independently of conventional weight classifications.

14. Exercise Even Without Motivation

Recognize that while you may not wake up wanting to exercise, you rarely regret doing it. Use this understanding to motivate yourself to engage in some form of physical activity, whether it’s running, swimming, or strength training.

15. Cultivate a Compassionate Inner Voice

When you engage in old, unhelpful patterns like binging, be mindful of your actions and replace a harsh, self-critical inner voice (‘you awful piece of shit’) with a more compassionate one (‘why are you doing that to yourself, babes?’).

16. Engage in Small Acts of Usefulness

Combat feelings of uselessness by engaging in small, everyday acts of being useful, such as offering a cup of tea, asking someone how they are, or smiling at a stranger. These simple gestures can have a profound impact on your own well-being.

17. Embrace Small Acts of Service

Reframe mundane tasks or requests from others as ‘small acts of service’ rather than resentful chores. Acknowledge that these contributions to others’ well-being can be a meaningful ‘point of life.’

18. Cultivate Gratitude for Service

When performing tasks for others or responding to requests, shift your perspective from resentment to gratitude, recognizing the privilege of having these people in your life. This mindset change can significantly improve your feelings.

19. Reframe Others’ Rudeness

When encountering rude or inconsiderate behavior from others, reframe it by assuming they are likely struggling or in a rush, rather than taking it personally. This allows you to ‘just let it be’ and avoid internalizing resentment.

20. Give to Keep What You Have

Embrace the principle that ‘you only keep what you have by giving it away,’ meaning that acts of service and generosity are crucial for maintaining your own well-being and recovery.

21. Practice Radical Honesty

Be honest about your struggles, especially with addiction or mental illness, as secrecy allows these issues to thrive. Sharing openly can help others feel less alone and foster a more supportive environment for recovery.

22. Share Your Vulnerabilities

If you feel bad or ashamed about something, put your hand up and share it, even if you haven’t met anyone else who admits to feeling the same way. This act of vulnerability helps others feel less alone and fosters a sense of community.

23. Support Loved Ones Without Forcing Change

If a friend or loved one is struggling with addiction, let them know you love them, but understand that you cannot force them to change. People are ready to change when they are ready, not a moment sooner.

24. Avoid Identifying with Labels

Be cautious of identifying too strongly with mental health labels, as they can sometimes hinder breaking free from problematic patterns by becoming part of your identity. Focus on understanding the underlying messages your body and mind are sending.

25. Recognize Drama Addiction

Become aware if you are ‘addicted to your own drama’ or have a subconscious need for chaos in your life. Identifying this pattern is the first step towards choosing a more peaceful existence.

26. Reduce Social Media Engagement

Step back from social media platforms, especially if you find yourself obsessively checking metrics or living life ‘according to the algorithm.’ These platforms are designed to addict and can negatively impact mental health.

27. Avoid Social Comparison

Recognize that constantly comparing yourself to others, especially on social media, leads to feelings of inadequacy and prevents you from focusing on your own capabilities. This comparison habit can be detrimental to mental well-being.

28. Choose Role Models Wisely

Select role models who demonstrate healthy relationships with partners and children, and who balance work with personal well-being, rather than those solely defined by external success metrics. This helps avoid internalizing unrealistic or unhealthy aspirations.

29. Re-evaluate Definition of Success

Question societal metrics of success, such as extreme wealth or overworking, as they often stem from a ‘desperate need to fill a hole’ and can lead to unhappiness. Focus on what truly brings contentment rather than external validation.

30. Prioritize Foundational Health Habits

Engage in ‘boring things that are the key to well-being’ such as sleeping a full eight hours a night, eating well, not drinking alcohol, and exercising. This is what Bryony’s younger self would consider boring but are crucial for well-being.

31. Avoid Rigid Resolution Dates

Do not feel shame if you cannot adhere to culturally imposed ‘resolution dates’ like Dry January, as human behavior is more complex than binary thinking allows. Change happens when you are ready, often due to significant pain, not on a set calendar date.

32. Practice Self-Compassion in Depression

If you’re struggling to get out of bed due to depression, allow yourself to stay there without self-judgment, treating it as a nourishing act. However, if you find yourself beating yourself up while in bed, try to get out, even if it’s just to walk around the block, knowing your bed will always be there.

33. Avoid Shame in Mental Health

Recognize that shame is not a cure for mental illness, including disordered eating or obesity, which can have significant mental health components. Approach these issues with understanding rather than self-blame.

34. Recognize Body’s Capabilities

Understand that your body is capable of far more than you might realize. Engaging in physical challenges can reveal its amazing potential and build appreciation for what it can do.

35. Focus on Participation, Not Metrics

When undertaking physical challenges like marathons or triathlons, prioritize the act of participation and completion over obsessive focus on times or rankings. The achievement is in doing it, regardless of your position.

36. Focus on the Present Moment

Accept that you cannot control everything or predict the future. Focus on the present moment, do your best, and be present, rather than worrying about what life might throw at you.

37. View Children as Individuals

Recognize that children are not extensions of yourself; they are their own individuals. This perspective helps in allowing them to be themselves and fostering their unique development.

38. Allow Children to Feel Emotions

Allow your children to feel their feelings without dismissing them (e.g., ‘don’t cry,’ ‘don’t be silly’). This teaches them emotional validation and healthy processing.

39. Practice Self-Compassion as Parent

Avoid beating yourself up over parenting mistakes; instead, acknowledge that you could have handled a situation better and commit to trying differently next time. This models self-forgiveness and growth.

40. Model Owning Mistakes to Children

Acknowledge and communicate your mistakes to your children, showing them that it’s okay to err and that you can learn and move on. This fosters a healthy understanding of imperfection.

41. Stop Playing Societal Roles

Cease playing roles dictated by societal expectations, such as sexualizing yourself to feel worthy or attractive to others. This shift in mindset can occur when you realize your body’s capabilities and desire a different world for future generations.

You can be better. You should be better. You are not enough or you are too much. That is what most women have gone through their whole lives thinking that.

Bryony Gordon

Mental illness has led to some of the worst times of my life, but it has also led to some of the most brilliant.

Bryony Gordon

Alcohol for me, Ronga, was like a real, you know, I'm grateful for it because I don't know how else I would have got through life.

Bryony Gordon

Almost every super, quite unquote, successful person that I've interviewed, that success comes from a desperate need to fill a hole.

Bryony Gordon

The thing all mental illnesses have in common is that they lie to you and they tell you you're a freak and they tell you that you're alone and they tell you that no one's going to understand what you're going through.

Bryony Gordon

Confidence is a trick. It's a total trick. Like no one really has confidence. But what I don't, what I do have is a desire not to hate on my body anymore because it's just a waste of time.

Bryony Gordon

Nobody wakes up wanting to go for a run, but nobody regrets going for one.

Bryony Gordon

You only keep what you have by giving it away.

Bryony Gordon

Coping with Mental Health Struggles

Bryony Gordon
  1. Do not isolate; actively resist the urge to withdraw, as isolation allows mental health issues to gain purchase.
  2. Force yourself out, pick up the phone, or call someone, even when your brain tells you not to.
  3. Be around people, as this goes against the brain's tendency to isolate during mental health struggles.

Dealing with the Urge to Stay in Bed (Depression/Low Motivation)

Bryony Gordon
  1. If you choose to stay in bed, do so without self-judgment; see it as a nourishing act (e.g., watch Netflix) rather than beating yourself up.
  2. If you find yourself feeling guilty or beating yourself up while in bed, try to get out.
  3. Go downstairs, open the front door, and walk around the block, even if it's just a short distance.
  4. Remember that your bed will still be there if you need to return, reducing the pressure to stay out.

Shifting Perspective in Frustrating Situations (Small Acts of Service)

Bryony Gordon
  1. When feeling resentful about doing tasks for others (e.g., picking up clothes, listening to complaints), reframe your mindset.
  2. Acknowledge the privilege of having those people in your life and the opportunity to interact with them.
  3. See the act as 'doing service' for them, recognizing that they may be struggling or in need.
  4. Smile and let go of frustration, understanding that you can choose your perspective and make life easier for yourself.
11 years old
Age when Bryony Gordon first experienced OCD symptoms She didn't know it was OCD at the time, thinking she was dying of AIDS.
14 years old
Age when Bryony Gordon started drinking alcoholically She drank a large quantity of cider and vodka immediately and got very sick.
5 years
Duration Bryony Gordon has been sober She still identifies as an alcoholic.
2017
Year Bryony Gordon went to rehab At the peak of her career success.
August 26th, 2017
Bryony Gordon's sobriety date Shared with a new friend she met in rehab.
2 weeks old
Age of Bryony Gordon's daughter when she had a post-pregnancy blackout This was a significant turning point for her.
6 weeks old
Age of Bryony Gordon's daughter when she scored cocaine post-pregnancy This event caused a profound shock and realization.
26.2 miles
Standard marathon distance Bryony has run multiple marathons.
18 to 20
Bryony Gordon's current clothing size She emphasizes that her health is not defined by this metric.