How This Sporting Event Could Change Your Life with Michael Lemmel #96
This episode features Michael Lemmel, co-founder of Swimrun, a transformative endurance event. It explores how Swimrun fosters connection with nature, teamwork, personal growth, and environmental awareness, offering a unique antidote to modern disconnected living.
Deep Dive Analysis
18 Topic Outline
Introduction to Swimrun and its transformative impact
Host's personal journey and connection with Swimrun
Emotional and physical connection with nature in Swimrun
Swimrun's unique team aspect and community feel
Societal problems addressed by Swimrun: loneliness and detachment
Swimrun's role in environmental awareness and climate change
Advice for beginners and overcoming fear in Swimrun
The origin story of Swimrun: a drunken bet in Sweden
Evolution of Swimrun from local race to global sport
Swimrun as an antidote to modern world problems
Environmental initiatives and sustainability in Swimrun events
The power of leading by example in environmental action
Swimrun's impact on global connection and breaking down barriers
Future aspirations for Swimrun as a vehicle for change
Demographics of Swimrun participants and intergenerational learning
Accessibility and minimal equipment for Swimrun participation
Children's participation in Swimrun and fostering self-confidence
Closing wisdom: taking one more step and expanding your world
5 Key Concepts
Swimrun
A unique sporting experience combining running and swimming, where participants run in their wetsuits and swim in their shoes, completing a series of short swims and trail runs with a partner. It emphasizes teamwork, fun, respect for self, others, and the environment, and adaptation to nature rather than conquering it.
Interdependence in Swimrun
The core principle of Swimrun, where participants race as a team of two, relying completely on each other for safety, emotional support, and shared experience. This fosters a deeper connection and understanding between partners compared to individual races.
Adaptation to Nature
A key lesson from Swimrun, where athletes realize they cannot control natural conditions like terrain, waves, or currents. Instead, success comes from constantly adapting to the environment, which builds resilience and a new 'tool set' of sensory awareness and instinctual navigation.
Analog World Experience
Swimrun offers an escape from the digital, stressful urban lifestyle by immersing participants in a natural, disconnected environment. This helps reduce cortisol levels, supports brain health, and allows for a profound reconnection with ancestral human experiences.
Horizontal vs. Vertical Living
A societal observation that people often live 'horizontally' within their own generations, rather than 'vertically' by mixing and learning from different age groups. Swimrun events, with participants ranging from children to seniors, naturally foster this vertical interaction and community learning.
7 Questions Answered
Swimrun is a sport where participants run in their wetsuits and swim in their shoes, alternating between short swims and trail runs with a partner. Its uniqueness lies in the constant adaptation to nature, the mandatory team aspect fostering deep connection, and the lack of traditional transitions.
Swimrun requires participants to race with a partner, fostering deep interdependence and communication. This real-life connection, shared emotional experiences, and community atmosphere directly counter the increasing societal problem of loneliness and detachment.
Swimrun began in 2003 as a drunken bet between four friends in the Stockholm archipelago, challenging each other to swim and run between islands. Michael Lemmel and Mats formed Artula in 2006 to organize this challenge into a commercial race, initially called 'Ör till Ör' (island to island).
Swimrun events aim for minimal environmental impact by using biodegradable course markings, eliminating single-use cups (racers bring their own collapsible cups), and disqualifying participants who litter. They also run a 'Clean the Ocean' awareness campaign, encouraging garbage collection.
Beginners can start by taking 'one more step' – walking in nature, then gradually incorporating short runs and swims. It's recommended to start in a pool, then a lake or river, before open water. Swimrun offers 'experience' races with shorter distances (e.g., 1.5km run, 400m swim sections) designed for accessibility.
Swimrun is seen as an antidote because it offers an escape from stressful, disconnected urban lives, forcing participants into an analog world in nature. This fosters real-life human connection, encourages adaptation over control, and reduces stress, promoting mental and emotional well-being.
The organizers prioritize that the child genuinely wants to participate, rather than being pushed by parents, to ensure a positive experience and build self-confidence. They emphasize that it's okay for children to stop if they are scared or not having fun, teaching the importance of saying 'no'.
50 Actionable Insights
1. Take One Step Outside Box
Take one more step than you’re doing today to venture outside your comfort zone, as this expands your world, leads to new experiences, and helps you realize something new.
2. Combat Loneliness with Connections
Actively seek out real-life connections and shared experiences with others to combat the epidemic of loneliness, as humans evolved to thrive in community, not just survive in isolation.
3. Prioritize Experiential Education
Seek out experiences that teach fundamental life skills such as teamwork, respect for others and the environment, connection with nature, and how to overcome adversity, as this is a vital form of education.
4. Reconnect Nature & Community
Actively seek to reconnect with nature, friends, and community, especially if you feel a craving for such experiences, as this can be profoundly transformative and fulfilling.
5. Prioritize Experiences, Just Do It
When an opportunity for a meaningful experience arises, especially with loved ones, prioritize it and ‘just do it’ rather than finding reasons not to, as these moments create lasting memories.
6. Create Offline Adventures
Get outside and offline to create adventures where things might go wrong, requiring you to overcome challenges, as these experiences generate meaningful stories and foster deep connections.
7. Empower Children’s Activity Choices
As a parent, ensure that children’s participation in activities comes from their own desire and understanding, not parental pressure, and teach them the importance of saying ’no’ if they feel scared or are not enjoying the experience.
8. Nurture Children’s Emotional Health
As a parent, be emotionally aware of your child’s feelings and focus on building positive emotional cornerstones, rather than pushing them to a point of fear or adversity, to ensure a positive experience.
9. Practice Nature Connection
When in nature, particularly water, practice feeling your body as part of something bigger, connecting to the vibrations and electrical pulses of all beings, to experience a profound sense of connection and aliveness.
10. Disconnect Digitally in Nature
Engage in activities that immerse you in an ‘analog world’ in nature, disconnected from social media, to reduce stress and cortisol levels, and feel a sense of renewal.
11. Walk Nature for Stress Relief
Go out into a forest for a walk of 30-45 minutes to significantly reduce cortisol levels, promote growth in your frontal lobe and hippocampus, and generally reduce stress.
12. Gradually Increase Activity in Nature
To get started with physical activity, take ‘one more step’ than before; begin by walking in nature, then gradually introduce short bursts of running (e.g., run one minute, walk two, then increase run time), as this progressive approach helps reduce stress.
13. Push Limits in Nature
Engage in physical activity in nature to push your perceived physical limits, as studies show you can run and swim further due to a different perception and connection to the environment, allowing you to move with its flow.
14. Overcome Fear in Support
Don’t let fear or inexperience stop you from trying new activities, especially if a supportive environment (like a well-marshalled event with safety measures) is available, as overcoming initial panic can lead to personal growth.
15. Try New Activities with Partner
When considering a new and potentially intimidating activity, team up with an experienced partner or racer to provide comfort and ease, making the experience less daunting and more enjoyable.
16. Find Accountability Partner
If you struggle with activity, find a friend to partner with for new experiences, as mutual accountability can help you train and commit, leading to transformative life changes.
17. Cultivate Partner Communication
Engage in activities with a partner that require you to feel, communicate your emotions, show both weakness and strength, and support each other to move forward, fostering deep interpersonal connection.
18. Focus on Partnership Dynamics
In unpredictable environments, shift your focus from external factors like time or performance to the only thing you can control: how you and your partner function together, as effective teamwork leads to better outcomes.
19. Seek Supportive Community Activities
Engage in activities that cultivate a collective community feel, where participants support and encourage each other, even when technically competing, rather than focusing solely on individual competition.
20. Foster Community Support
Work to support and respect each other within a community, recognizing that collective strength comes from cooperation rather than individual superiority.
21. Recognize Universal Connection
Cultivate a fundamental belief that all humans are connected and face similar challenges, as realizing this shared humanity can simplify conversations around climate, environment, connection, and equality.
22. Connect Nature for Environment
Actively engage with nature, especially through events that immerse you in it, to foster a deep personal connection that naturally leads to concern for the environment and understanding of climate change.
23. Minimize Environmental Impact
Strive to minimize your environmental impact, especially when organizing or participating in events in nature, and actively work to raise awareness about environmental problems like plastic pollution.
24. Practice Zero-Waste Outdoors
Commit to not dropping any litter in nature; if you see something dropped, pick it up yourself or encourage others to do so, fostering a community-led approach to keeping natural environments clean.
25. Participate Community Clean-ups
Engage in organized community clean-up activities (e.g., ‘garbage search and collect’) and make a personal habit of picking up litter you encounter, even if it’s not yours, to raise awareness and contribute to a cleaner environment.
26. Lead by Example in Stewardship
Lead by example in environmental stewardship, such as picking up litter, as this can inspire others to question their own behavior and make positive changes, which is more effective than simply telling people what to do.
27. Engage Climate Debate Imperfection
Do not let personal imperfections or environmental footprints prevent you from engaging in discussions and raising awareness about climate change, as demanding personal perfection as a prerequisite hinders the broader conversation.
28. Use Nature as Antidote
Actively engage with nature to counteract the inward-driving forces of modern technology and society, as nature is expansive and encourages outward focus, serving as an antidote to contemporary problems.
29. Explore New Nature Experiences
If you already regularly access nature, consider trying new activities or perspectives to experience it in a different and potentially more profound way.
30. Break Down Physical Challenges
Approach physical challenges by breaking them into shorter, varied segments (e.g., short runs followed by short swims), allowing for different muscle use and opportunities to rest, making the overall goal more achievable.
31. Embrace Simplicity in Activity
Seek out physical activities that minimize transitions and equipment changes, allowing you to start and finish with the same gear (e.g., running in a wetsuit, swimming in shoes), as this simplicity can be mentally freeing and enjoyable.
32. Choose Accessible Activities
Opt for physical activities that are financially accessible, requiring minimal specialized equipment or travel costs, making it easier to participate and ‘get out’.
33. Focus on Basics, Just Do It
Don’t get bogged down by excessive gear or preparation; focus on the basics and ‘just get out there and do it,’ as this approach can be mentally freeing and enable participation.
34. Progressively Acclimate Open Water
If you’re new to swimming or open water, start by getting comfortable in a pool, then move to a lake or river, and finally the ocean, to gradually build confidence and skill.
35. Tap Into Emotional Power
Recognize and utilize the emotional power within yourself, which is stronger than physical attributes, and be willing to share these emotions with a partner to achieve greater strength and connection.
36. Acknowledge Shared Emotions
Actively share and acknowledge the emotional experiences of others, such as hugging participants at a finish line, to build connection and emphasize the importance of shared journey over individual physical prowess.
37. Plan Activities with Friends
Arrange to meet up and participate in shared activities, like sporting events, with friends to strengthen bonds and create new experiences together.
38. Seek Something More
If you find yourself in a routine of work and waiting for weekends, actively search for ‘something more’ in life to fulfill a deeper craving beyond societal pressures and responsibilities.
39. Use Biodegradable Materials Outdoors
When engaging in outdoor activities or events, opt for biodegradable materials (e.g., cellulose or paper for marking) to avoid harming wildlife and minimize environmental impact.
40. Carry Reusable Hydration Cup
To significantly reduce waste, especially at events or when consuming beverages, carry your own collapsible or reusable cup instead of relying on single-use options.
41. Try Minimalist Footwear
Consider wearing minimalist shoes, such as Vivo Barefoot, for various occasions like work, play, walking, or gym, as they can improve posture and alleviate issues like back pain, and come with a 100-day trial for new customers.
42. Seek Diverse Conversations
Engage with interesting people from various fields (health and beyond) to gather simple, actionable tips that can immediately transform how you feel, as inspiration and empowerment come from these interactions.
43. Listen to Past Episodes
Go back through the podcast’s back catalogue to listen to previous conversations, especially episode 73 with Ross Edgeley, to gain insights and inspiration.
44. Listen to Wallman Episode
Listen to the podcast episode featuring James Wallman, who discusses how to spend time productively and offers seven rules for meaningful experiences, as it contains valuable wisdom.
45. Seize Opportunities, Be Persistent
In life, actively look for opportunities and act on them, then maintain persistence in your efforts if you believe what you are doing is right, as this approach leads to growth and success.
46. Expand Your Comfort Zone
Understand that your circle of comfort expands rapidly with each new challenge you undertake, making subsequent challenges easier to face.
47. Prioritize Children’s Enjoyment
When children participate in challenging activities, prioritize their enjoyment and ensuring they finish with a smile, rather than focusing solely on completion or performance.
48. Engage Instinctual Navigation
Seek out activities in nature, like difficult trail running, where you must rely on instinct and feeling rather than overthinking, to foster a deeper connection with your surroundings.
49. Reconnect to Tribal Living
Counteract modern detached, self-focused lifestyles by engaging in activities that remind us of our animal nature and the importance of living as a tribe in harmony with others, fostering genuine connection.
50. Practice Adaptability & Teamwork
Expose yourself to nature to learn adaptability, realizing that in natural environments, the only thing you can control is how you and your partner work together and adapt to conditions, fostering a paradigm shift away from societal status.
7 Key Quotes
When I go into the water, I feel how my body becomes part of something bigger because we're all electric pulses and we're all beating hearts. And for me, the beating hearts, we all sort of connect in the vibrations in the ocean.
Michael Lemmel
The only thing that matters is you, your partner, and how you work together and how you adapt to the conditions around you.
Michael Lemmel
The power we have in our emotions is so much stronger than what we have in our arms or in our lungs or in our legs.
Michael Lemmel
If the price of entry into the debate on climate change is personal perfection, we've got a big problem.
Rangan Chatterjee
What we want to leave behind is footsteps and memories. We don't want to leave any garbage.
Michael Lemmel
We are all capable of more than we think we are.
Rangan Chatterjee
Take one more step than you're doing today. Step outside the box. It just takes one step and the box gets bigger and you see something new and you realize something new and you have a new experience.
Michael Lemmel
2 Protocols
Beginner's Progression to Swimrun
Michael Lemmel- Start by walking in nature.
- Gradually incorporate running for one minute, then walking for two minutes.
- Increase running time (e.g., two minutes running, one minute walking, then three minutes running, two minutes walking).
- Begin swimming in a pool to get comfortable in water.
- Progress to swimming in a lake or river.
- Consider participating in an 'experience' level Swimrun race, which has shorter, manageable distances.
Swimrun Environmental Practices
Michael Lemmel- Use only cellulose or paper ribbons for course marking to ensure biodegradability and safety for animals.
- Eliminate single-use cups at energy stations, requiring racers to bring their own collapsible cups (except for the first two stations due to high volume).
- Disqualify any racer seen throwing garbage on the ground.
- Implement a 'sweeper team' at the back of the course to collect any dropped garbage, ensuring the course is cleaner than before the race.
- Organize 'Clean the Ocean' awareness activities during race weekends, where racers and local community members collect garbage.