How This Sporting Event Could Change Your Life with Michael Lemmel #96

Feb 5, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode features Michael Lemmel, co-founder of Swimrun, a transformative endurance event. It explores how Swimrun fosters connection with nature, teamwork, personal growth, and environmental awareness, offering a unique antidote to modern disconnected living.

At a Glance
50 Insights
1h 36m Duration
18 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Swimrun and its transformative impact

Host's personal journey and connection with Swimrun

Emotional and physical connection with nature in Swimrun

Swimrun's unique team aspect and community feel

Societal problems addressed by Swimrun: loneliness and detachment

Swimrun's role in environmental awareness and climate change

Advice for beginners and overcoming fear in Swimrun

The origin story of Swimrun: a drunken bet in Sweden

Evolution of Swimrun from local race to global sport

Swimrun as an antidote to modern world problems

Environmental initiatives and sustainability in Swimrun events

The power of leading by example in environmental action

Swimrun's impact on global connection and breaking down barriers

Future aspirations for Swimrun as a vehicle for change

Demographics of Swimrun participants and intergenerational learning

Accessibility and minimal equipment for Swimrun participation

Children's participation in Swimrun and fostering self-confidence

Closing wisdom: taking one more step and expanding your world

Swimrun

A unique sporting experience combining running and swimming, where participants run in their wetsuits and swim in their shoes, completing a series of short swims and trail runs with a partner. It emphasizes teamwork, fun, respect for self, others, and the environment, and adaptation to nature rather than conquering it.

Interdependence in Swimrun

The core principle of Swimrun, where participants race as a team of two, relying completely on each other for safety, emotional support, and shared experience. This fosters a deeper connection and understanding between partners compared to individual races.

Adaptation to Nature

A key lesson from Swimrun, where athletes realize they cannot control natural conditions like terrain, waves, or currents. Instead, success comes from constantly adapting to the environment, which builds resilience and a new 'tool set' of sensory awareness and instinctual navigation.

Analog World Experience

Swimrun offers an escape from the digital, stressful urban lifestyle by immersing participants in a natural, disconnected environment. This helps reduce cortisol levels, supports brain health, and allows for a profound reconnection with ancestral human experiences.

Horizontal vs. Vertical Living

A societal observation that people often live 'horizontally' within their own generations, rather than 'vertically' by mixing and learning from different age groups. Swimrun events, with participants ranging from children to seniors, naturally foster this vertical interaction and community learning.

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What is Swimrun and what makes it unique?

Swimrun is a sport where participants run in their wetsuits and swim in their shoes, alternating between short swims and trail runs with a partner. Its uniqueness lies in the constant adaptation to nature, the mandatory team aspect fostering deep connection, and the lack of traditional transitions.

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How does Swimrun help combat loneliness and foster connection?

Swimrun requires participants to race with a partner, fostering deep interdependence and communication. This real-life connection, shared emotional experiences, and community atmosphere directly counter the increasing societal problem of loneliness and detachment.

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How did Swimrun originate?

Swimrun began in 2003 as a drunken bet between four friends in the Stockholm archipelago, challenging each other to swim and run between islands. Michael Lemmel and Mats formed Artula in 2006 to organize this challenge into a commercial race, initially called 'Ör till Ör' (island to island).

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What are Swimrun's environmental policies and initiatives?

Swimrun events aim for minimal environmental impact by using biodegradable course markings, eliminating single-use cups (racers bring their own collapsible cups), and disqualifying participants who litter. They also run a 'Clean the Ocean' awareness campaign, encouraging garbage collection.

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How can a beginner get started with Swimrun?

Beginners can start by taking 'one more step' – walking in nature, then gradually incorporating short runs and swims. It's recommended to start in a pool, then a lake or river, before open water. Swimrun offers 'experience' races with shorter distances (e.g., 1.5km run, 400m swim sections) designed for accessibility.

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Why is Swimrun considered an 'antidote' to modern life?

Swimrun is seen as an antidote because it offers an escape from stressful, disconnected urban lives, forcing participants into an analog world in nature. This fosters real-life human connection, encourages adaptation over control, and reduces stress, promoting mental and emotional well-being.

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What is the philosophy behind allowing children to participate in Swimrun?

The organizers prioritize that the child genuinely wants to participate, rather than being pushed by parents, to ensure a positive experience and build self-confidence. They emphasize that it's okay for children to stop if they are scared or not having fun, teaching the importance of saying 'no'.

1. Take One Step Outside Box

Take one more step than you’re doing today to venture outside your comfort zone, as this expands your world, leads to new experiences, and helps you realize something new.

2. Combat Loneliness with Connections

Actively seek out real-life connections and shared experiences with others to combat the epidemic of loneliness, as humans evolved to thrive in community, not just survive in isolation.

3. Prioritize Experiential Education

Seek out experiences that teach fundamental life skills such as teamwork, respect for others and the environment, connection with nature, and how to overcome adversity, as this is a vital form of education.

4. Reconnect Nature & Community

Actively seek to reconnect with nature, friends, and community, especially if you feel a craving for such experiences, as this can be profoundly transformative and fulfilling.

5. Prioritize Experiences, Just Do It

When an opportunity for a meaningful experience arises, especially with loved ones, prioritize it and ‘just do it’ rather than finding reasons not to, as these moments create lasting memories.

6. Create Offline Adventures

Get outside and offline to create adventures where things might go wrong, requiring you to overcome challenges, as these experiences generate meaningful stories and foster deep connections.

7. Empower Children’s Activity Choices

As a parent, ensure that children’s participation in activities comes from their own desire and understanding, not parental pressure, and teach them the importance of saying ’no’ if they feel scared or are not enjoying the experience.

8. Nurture Children’s Emotional Health

As a parent, be emotionally aware of your child’s feelings and focus on building positive emotional cornerstones, rather than pushing them to a point of fear or adversity, to ensure a positive experience.

9. Practice Nature Connection

When in nature, particularly water, practice feeling your body as part of something bigger, connecting to the vibrations and electrical pulses of all beings, to experience a profound sense of connection and aliveness.

10. Disconnect Digitally in Nature

Engage in activities that immerse you in an ‘analog world’ in nature, disconnected from social media, to reduce stress and cortisol levels, and feel a sense of renewal.

11. Walk Nature for Stress Relief

Go out into a forest for a walk of 30-45 minutes to significantly reduce cortisol levels, promote growth in your frontal lobe and hippocampus, and generally reduce stress.

12. Gradually Increase Activity in Nature

To get started with physical activity, take ‘one more step’ than before; begin by walking in nature, then gradually introduce short bursts of running (e.g., run one minute, walk two, then increase run time), as this progressive approach helps reduce stress.

13. Push Limits in Nature

Engage in physical activity in nature to push your perceived physical limits, as studies show you can run and swim further due to a different perception and connection to the environment, allowing you to move with its flow.

14. Overcome Fear in Support

Don’t let fear or inexperience stop you from trying new activities, especially if a supportive environment (like a well-marshalled event with safety measures) is available, as overcoming initial panic can lead to personal growth.

15. Try New Activities with Partner

When considering a new and potentially intimidating activity, team up with an experienced partner or racer to provide comfort and ease, making the experience less daunting and more enjoyable.

16. Find Accountability Partner

If you struggle with activity, find a friend to partner with for new experiences, as mutual accountability can help you train and commit, leading to transformative life changes.

17. Cultivate Partner Communication

Engage in activities with a partner that require you to feel, communicate your emotions, show both weakness and strength, and support each other to move forward, fostering deep interpersonal connection.

18. Focus on Partnership Dynamics

In unpredictable environments, shift your focus from external factors like time or performance to the only thing you can control: how you and your partner function together, as effective teamwork leads to better outcomes.

19. Seek Supportive Community Activities

Engage in activities that cultivate a collective community feel, where participants support and encourage each other, even when technically competing, rather than focusing solely on individual competition.

20. Foster Community Support

Work to support and respect each other within a community, recognizing that collective strength comes from cooperation rather than individual superiority.

21. Recognize Universal Connection

Cultivate a fundamental belief that all humans are connected and face similar challenges, as realizing this shared humanity can simplify conversations around climate, environment, connection, and equality.

22. Connect Nature for Environment

Actively engage with nature, especially through events that immerse you in it, to foster a deep personal connection that naturally leads to concern for the environment and understanding of climate change.

23. Minimize Environmental Impact

Strive to minimize your environmental impact, especially when organizing or participating in events in nature, and actively work to raise awareness about environmental problems like plastic pollution.

24. Practice Zero-Waste Outdoors

Commit to not dropping any litter in nature; if you see something dropped, pick it up yourself or encourage others to do so, fostering a community-led approach to keeping natural environments clean.

25. Participate Community Clean-ups

Engage in organized community clean-up activities (e.g., ‘garbage search and collect’) and make a personal habit of picking up litter you encounter, even if it’s not yours, to raise awareness and contribute to a cleaner environment.

26. Lead by Example in Stewardship

Lead by example in environmental stewardship, such as picking up litter, as this can inspire others to question their own behavior and make positive changes, which is more effective than simply telling people what to do.

27. Engage Climate Debate Imperfection

Do not let personal imperfections or environmental footprints prevent you from engaging in discussions and raising awareness about climate change, as demanding personal perfection as a prerequisite hinders the broader conversation.

28. Use Nature as Antidote

Actively engage with nature to counteract the inward-driving forces of modern technology and society, as nature is expansive and encourages outward focus, serving as an antidote to contemporary problems.

29. Explore New Nature Experiences

If you already regularly access nature, consider trying new activities or perspectives to experience it in a different and potentially more profound way.

30. Break Down Physical Challenges

Approach physical challenges by breaking them into shorter, varied segments (e.g., short runs followed by short swims), allowing for different muscle use and opportunities to rest, making the overall goal more achievable.

31. Embrace Simplicity in Activity

Seek out physical activities that minimize transitions and equipment changes, allowing you to start and finish with the same gear (e.g., running in a wetsuit, swimming in shoes), as this simplicity can be mentally freeing and enjoyable.

32. Choose Accessible Activities

Opt for physical activities that are financially accessible, requiring minimal specialized equipment or travel costs, making it easier to participate and ‘get out’.

33. Focus on Basics, Just Do It

Don’t get bogged down by excessive gear or preparation; focus on the basics and ‘just get out there and do it,’ as this approach can be mentally freeing and enable participation.

34. Progressively Acclimate Open Water

If you’re new to swimming or open water, start by getting comfortable in a pool, then move to a lake or river, and finally the ocean, to gradually build confidence and skill.

35. Tap Into Emotional Power

Recognize and utilize the emotional power within yourself, which is stronger than physical attributes, and be willing to share these emotions with a partner to achieve greater strength and connection.

36. Acknowledge Shared Emotions

Actively share and acknowledge the emotional experiences of others, such as hugging participants at a finish line, to build connection and emphasize the importance of shared journey over individual physical prowess.

37. Plan Activities with Friends

Arrange to meet up and participate in shared activities, like sporting events, with friends to strengthen bonds and create new experiences together.

38. Seek Something More

If you find yourself in a routine of work and waiting for weekends, actively search for ‘something more’ in life to fulfill a deeper craving beyond societal pressures and responsibilities.

39. Use Biodegradable Materials Outdoors

When engaging in outdoor activities or events, opt for biodegradable materials (e.g., cellulose or paper for marking) to avoid harming wildlife and minimize environmental impact.

40. Carry Reusable Hydration Cup

To significantly reduce waste, especially at events or when consuming beverages, carry your own collapsible or reusable cup instead of relying on single-use options.

41. Try Minimalist Footwear

Consider wearing minimalist shoes, such as Vivo Barefoot, for various occasions like work, play, walking, or gym, as they can improve posture and alleviate issues like back pain, and come with a 100-day trial for new customers.

42. Seek Diverse Conversations

Engage with interesting people from various fields (health and beyond) to gather simple, actionable tips that can immediately transform how you feel, as inspiration and empowerment come from these interactions.

43. Listen to Past Episodes

Go back through the podcast’s back catalogue to listen to previous conversations, especially episode 73 with Ross Edgeley, to gain insights and inspiration.

44. Listen to Wallman Episode

Listen to the podcast episode featuring James Wallman, who discusses how to spend time productively and offers seven rules for meaningful experiences, as it contains valuable wisdom.

45. Seize Opportunities, Be Persistent

In life, actively look for opportunities and act on them, then maintain persistence in your efforts if you believe what you are doing is right, as this approach leads to growth and success.

46. Expand Your Comfort Zone

Understand that your circle of comfort expands rapidly with each new challenge you undertake, making subsequent challenges easier to face.

47. Prioritize Children’s Enjoyment

When children participate in challenging activities, prioritize their enjoyment and ensuring they finish with a smile, rather than focusing solely on completion or performance.

48. Engage Instinctual Navigation

Seek out activities in nature, like difficult trail running, where you must rely on instinct and feeling rather than overthinking, to foster a deeper connection with your surroundings.

49. Reconnect to Tribal Living

Counteract modern detached, self-focused lifestyles by engaging in activities that remind us of our animal nature and the importance of living as a tribe in harmony with others, fostering genuine connection.

50. Practice Adaptability & Teamwork

Expose yourself to nature to learn adaptability, realizing that in natural environments, the only thing you can control is how you and your partner work together and adapt to conditions, fostering a paradigm shift away from societal status.

When I go into the water, I feel how my body becomes part of something bigger because we're all electric pulses and we're all beating hearts. And for me, the beating hearts, we all sort of connect in the vibrations in the ocean.

Michael Lemmel

The only thing that matters is you, your partner, and how you work together and how you adapt to the conditions around you.

Michael Lemmel

The power we have in our emotions is so much stronger than what we have in our arms or in our lungs or in our legs.

Michael Lemmel

If the price of entry into the debate on climate change is personal perfection, we've got a big problem.

Rangan Chatterjee

What we want to leave behind is footsteps and memories. We don't want to leave any garbage.

Michael Lemmel

We are all capable of more than we think we are.

Rangan Chatterjee

Take one more step than you're doing today. Step outside the box. It just takes one step and the box gets bigger and you see something new and you realize something new and you have a new experience.

Michael Lemmel

Beginner's Progression to Swimrun

Michael Lemmel
  1. Start by walking in nature.
  2. Gradually incorporate running for one minute, then walking for two minutes.
  3. Increase running time (e.g., two minutes running, one minute walking, then three minutes running, two minutes walking).
  4. Begin swimming in a pool to get comfortable in water.
  5. Progress to swimming in a lake or river.
  6. Consider participating in an 'experience' level Swimrun race, which has shorter, manageable distances.

Swimrun Environmental Practices

Michael Lemmel
  1. Use only cellulose or paper ribbons for course marking to ensure biodegradability and safety for animals.
  2. Eliminate single-use cups at energy stations, requiring racers to bring their own collapsible cups (except for the first two stations due to high volume).
  3. Disqualify any racer seen throwing garbage on the ground.
  4. Implement a 'sweeper team' at the back of the course to collect any dropped garbage, ensuring the course is cleaner than before the race.
  5. Organize 'Clean the Ocean' awareness activities during race weekends, where racers and local community members collect garbage.
2006
Start year of Artula (original Swimrun race) Co-founded by Michael Lemmel and Mats
640
Number of participants at Malta inaugural event Exceeded expectations of 300-350
2003
Year of the original drunken bet that inspired Swimrun Between friends on the island of Uta in the Stockholm archipelago
30,000
Number of islands in the Stockholm archipelago Context for the origin of Swimrun
9
Number of teams in the first Artula race Only 2 teams finished
12-13
Number of teams in the second Artula race Only 2 teams finished; some were coerced to start
2012
Year when the name 'Swimrun' was adopted Six years after the first race
700+
Estimated number of Swimrun races globally As of late 2019
50+
Number of nations represented in Artula races Highlights global reach
60,000
Approximate number of single-use cups consumed per season (before policy change) Led to the implementation of mandatory collapsible cups
80%
Percentage of ocean garbage originating from land Highlighting the importance of land-based cleanup efforts
1.5 kilometers
Maximum run section distance in an 'experience' Swimrun race Designed for accessibility for beginners
400 meters
Maximum swim section distance in an 'experience' Swimrun race Designed for accessibility for beginners