The Truth About Calories with Dr Herman Pontzer #191

Jun 15, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Herman Pontzer, an evolutionary biologist, explains that increased physical activity doesn't necessarily lead to more calories burned, as the body adjusts its energy expenditure. He shares insights from Hadza hunter-gatherers, emphasizing movement's importance for health, not just weight loss, and discusses real paleo diets.

At a Glance
20 Insights
1h 24m Duration
14 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Challenging the 'Move More, Burn More' Calorie Myth

Defining Metabolism and Energy Expenditure

Hadza Hunter-Gatherer Research and Findings

The Constrained Energy Expenditure Model

Body's Prioritization of Energy: Immune Function and Growth

Exercise's Role Beyond Calorie Burning

Honest Public Health Messaging on Exercise and Weight Loss

Indirect Effects of Exercise on Weight Regulation

Living with the Hadza: Cultural Immersion and Learnings

The Reality of a True Hunter-Gatherer (Paleo) Diet

The Human Drive to Share Food

Personal Lessons from Hadza Life

Biomechanics of Locomotion: Walking, Running, Swimming, Climbing

Final Wisdom: The Importance of Getting Outside

Metabolism

Metabolism is the umbrella term for all the work your cells do throughout the day, including breaking down nutrients, making molecules, and eliminating waste. This work requires energy, which can be measured as calories expended.

Constrained Energy Expenditure Model

This model suggests that the total number of calories a body burns daily operates within a narrow range, regardless of activity level. If more energy is spent on one activity, like exercise, the body adjusts by spending less energy on other functions, such as immune response or reproduction, to maintain a stable overall expenditure.

Immigrant Effect

This phenomenon describes how children of immigrants from developing countries often grow taller than their parents. It's attributed to moving from an 'energy-stressed' environment with limited medicine, nutrition, and high physical stress, to an 'energy-rich' environment, allowing more energy to be allocated to growth.

Co-evolution of Bodies and Behaviors

This concept explains that an organism's physical characteristics and its behaviors evolve together. For humans, two and a half million years of hunting and gathering shaped our bodies to expect and require constant movement for proper function, similar to how a shark's anatomy evolved to require continuous swimming.

Walking Efficiency

Human walking is remarkably efficient, burning about half the calories of running over the same distance. This is due to a unique biomechanical trick where the body acts like a roller coaster, vaulting up and down over each leg, using potential energy to minimize caloric expenditure.

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Why doesn't moving more necessarily mean burning more calories?

Research with physically active communities like the Hadza shows that despite significantly higher activity levels, their total daily energy expenditure is similar to more sedentary Westerners. The body manages its energy budget, reducing expenditure on other functions if more is spent on physical activity.

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How does the body prioritize energy allocation?

The body makes 'economic decisions' about how to spend calories. If more energy is allocated to physical activity, less is spent on other functions like immune system activation (reducing inflammation), stress response, or even growth and reproduction.

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Is exercise effective for weight loss?

While exercise alone typically results in modest long-term weight loss (around two kilograms), it is highly beneficial for overall health and for maintaining weight loss achieved through dietary changes. Exercise's primary role is not calorie burning for weight loss, but rather regulating various bodily functions.

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What does a true 'paleo diet' actually look like?

A real hunter-gatherer diet, like that of the Hadza, is functional and consists of wild foods such as plants, berries, tubers, wild game, and honey, often eaten as available. It is not typically 'delicious' or varied in the way modern paleo diets are often portrayed, and there are no distinct breakfast, lunch, or dinner foods.

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What is the significance of food sharing in human evolution?

Humans are the only primates that share food extensively, a practice that has been central to our species for two and a half million years. Sharing increases energy availability, broadens the range of foods consumed, and strengthens community bonds, contributing to our success as a species.

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Does the speed of running affect calorie burn over a given distance?

No, whether you run a mile in 15 minutes or 8 minutes, you will burn approximately the same amount of calories. The energy expenditure is primarily related to the distance covered and body weight, rather than the speed.

1. Prioritize Diet for Weight Loss

For significant fat loss and changing the number on the scale, focus primarily on diet changes, as diet does “all the heavy lifting” in weight loss.

2. Untangle Exercise from Weight Loss

Separate the goal of exercise from the goal of weight loss to avoid feelings of failure and damage to self-esteem, as exercise alone is often ineffective for significant weight loss.

3. Movement Essential for Health

Understand that movement is essential for human bodies to function properly, a legacy of our hunter-gatherer past, even if not primarily for calorie burning.

4. Exercise to Reduce Chronic Inflammation

Engage in regular physical activity to reduce chronic, damaging inflammation, as the body diverts energy away from unnecessary immune responses when more is spent on exercise.

5. Spend More Time Outdoors

Make an effort to get outside more often, ideally with friends, to move your body, get fresh air and vitamin D, and distance yourself from the refrigerator, countering the modern tendency to spend 90% of life indoors.

6. Nurture Personal Connections

Prioritize and nurture personal connections in your life, as these social bonds are deeply important for human well-being and a legacy of our ancestral past.

7. Prioritize Life Balance

Reflect on your priorities and choose to balance work with time for family, adequate sleep, and exercise, rather than working excessively and neglecting health.

8. Avoid “Earn Your Doughnuts” Mindset

Do not think you can “earn” unhealthy food by exercising more, as your body’s metabolic adjustments mean exercise doesn’t raise total expenditure as much as commonly believed, leading to potential weight gain.

9. Boost Self-Esteem with Manageable Exercise

Engage in short, manageable bursts of physical activity (e.g., 10 bicep curls while making a hot drink) to quickly boost self-esteem and self-worth, which can help maintain overall health efforts.

10. Prioritize Unprocessed Foods for Satiety

Focus on consuming real, unprocessed foods, as they make it harder to overeat and allow your brain to better signal when you are full.

11. Simplify Meal Expectations

Adopt a mindset where food is simply “food,” rather than expecting every meal to be a phenomenally beautiful and taste-bud-tingling experience, as this can lead to overeating processed foods.

12. Metabolic Adjustment to Exercise

Recognize that when you exercise more, your body adjusts by spending less energy in other areas (e.g., immune function, stress response, reproductive system) to maintain a consistent total daily calorie burn.

13. Exercise for Weight Maintenance

After losing weight (usually through diet), use exercise as a helpful tool to keep the weight off, as it aids in regulation and matching intake at a new weight.

14. Avoid Extreme Inactivity

Ensure you are not extremely inactive, as a complete lack of exercise can lead to dysregulation issues that contribute to overeating.

15. Exercise to Reduce Stress Response

Engage in regular exercise to suppress the stress response (e.g., lower epinephrine and cortisol surges), which is beneficial for overall health.

16. Exercise for Hormonal Regulation

Regular exercise can lead to healthy, slightly lower levels of testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone levels, contributing to energy savings and overall regulation.

17. Practice Sharing within Your Group

Embrace sharing food and resources within your community, as it is a fundamental human trait that strengthens social bonds and ensures everyone has access to energy.

18. Calorie Burn Independent of Speed

Understand that for a given distance, the total calories burned while walking or running are roughly the same, regardless of speed.

19. Consider Swimming/Climbing for Higher Calorie Burn

If your goal is to burn more calories per unit of distance or vertical height, consider activities like swimming or climbing, as they are significantly more energetically costly than walking or running.

20. Recognize Brain’s Tendency to Overeat

Understand that our brains, evolved for diets of unprocessed foods, are prone to overeating in a modern world with constant access to highly palatable, delicious food.

Even if you're more physically active, you're getting more exercise every day or getting more physical activity every day, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're burning more calories every day than someone who's more sedentary than you.

Dr. Herman Pontzer

Exercise by itself is not a very good weight loss tool. And even exercise along with diet changes, exercise doesn't add a whole lot to the weight loss piece of it.

Dr. Herman Pontzer

Our bodies are built to move in our modern industrialized worlds, free of the daily demands of foraging for our foods. We need to exercise for our bodies to function properly. It's a legacy of our hunter gatherer past.

Dr. Herman Pontzer

When you stop thinking about exercise as just, you know, again, how many, how many donuts have I earned? And you start thinking about all of the things that it's doing internally to regulate that budget. That's a lot more interesting actually.

Dr. Herman Pontzer

We are the only primate that shares like this. And we've been doing it for two and a half million years, as long as we've been hunting and gathering. So the, the, and it's the reason that we're so phenomenally successful as a species.

Dr. Herman Pontzer
nearly 3,000 kilocalories
Daily calorie burn for typical Western men Primarily determined by body size and fat-free mass.
2,400 kilocalories
Daily calorie burn for typical Western women Lower than men due to smaller average size and higher body fat percentage.
1,800 calories
Daily calorie burn for the Hadza women Lower than Western women due to their shorter stature and smaller body size.
2,400-2,500 calories
Daily calorie burn for the Hadza men Lower than Western men due to their shorter stature and smaller body size.
300 kilocalories
Brain's daily calorie consumption A significant portion of daily energy expenditure, often unnoticed.
5 to 10 times more
Hadza daily physical activity compared to Westerners Despite this, their total daily energy expenditure is similar.
13,000 to 19,000 steps
Hadza daily steps Incredibly physically active, plus other strenuous activities like digging and carrying.
about 100 kilocalories
Calories burned per mile running A good rule of thumb, varies slightly with body weight.
about 2 kilograms
Long-term weight loss from exercise alone Modest effect, as the body adjusts to increased activity.
2 in 1,000
Prevalence of overweight/obesity in Hadza women Observed over 10 years of research, indicating rarity in their lifestyle.
about 90%
Percentage of life spent indoors by industrialized world population Contrasts with human evolutionary history and can have negative health implications.