The Voice In Our Head and How to Harness It, with Dr Ethan Kross #173

Apr 13, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Award-winning psychologist Dr. Ethan Kross discusses how to harness our inner voice, or 'chatter,' to prevent negative self-talk and rumination. He provides practical tools to redirect inner dialogue towards reflection and self-improvement, impacting health, relationships, and performance.

At a Glance
26 Insights
1h 41m Duration
15 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to the Inner Voice and Chatter

How Inner Chatter Impacts Physical Health

Goal: Harnessing, Not Silencing, the Inner Voice

Personal Journey into Studying Inner Chatter

Solomon's Paradox and Distanced Self-Talk

The Power of Placebo in Healing

Providing Effective Support to Others' Chatter

Invisible Support for Those Not Asking for Help

Building a Personal Board of Advisors

Navigating Social Media for Chatter Management

Environmental Tools: Rituals and Order for Control

The Awe Experience for Perspective Broadening

Nature's Role in Replenishing Attention

Immersing in Positive Emotions vs. Distancing from Negative

Teaching Children to Manage Their Inner Voice

Inner Voice

The ability to use language to reflect on our lives, innovate, problem-solve, create, and shape identity. It is a powerful tool of the mind that can manifest positively or negatively as 'chatter'.

Chatter

The negative manifestation of the inner voice, characterized by worry, rumination, and catastrophization. When unharnessed, it can be destructive for health, relationships, and performance.

Solomon's Paradox

The phenomenon where individuals are often much better at giving advice to other people than at taking their own advice when facing personal problems.

Distanced Self-Talk

A linguistic technique where one talks to themselves using their own name or the second-person pronoun 'you' (e.g., 'Ethan, what are you doing?'). This creates psychological distance, helping to reframe a situation as a challenge rather than a threat.

Invisible Support

Providing help to others who are struggling without them explicitly asking for it. This approach avoids threatening the recipient's sense of self-efficacy and can involve easing burdens or subtly guiding them to resources.

Compensatory Control

The psychological process of ordering one's external environment (e.g., tidying, organizing, engaging in rituals) to create a sense of order and control when feeling a lack of internal control, such as during chatter.

Awe

An emotion experienced in the presence of something vast that is difficult to explain. It leads to a 'shrinking of the self' and broadens one's perspective, making personal concerns feel smaller by comparison.

Soft Fascination

A gentle capture of attention by elements in a safe natural environment (e.g., trees, flowers). This allows attentional resources, often depleted by chatter, to replenish, aiding in the implementation of other self-regulation tools.

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Can inner chatter make us physically ill?

Yes, when our stress response is chronically elevated due to rumination and worry, it exerts wear and tear on the body, predicting a host of physical maladies from cardiovascular disease to inflammation and various forms of cancer.

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Should we aim to turn off our inner voice completely?

No, the goal is to harness the inner voice, not turn it off, because it is a superpower that helps us innovate, problem-solve, create, plan for the future, and shape our identity.

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Why does introspection sometimes help and sometimes hurt?

Introspection can help us find solutions and move on, but if it leads to excessive rumination and negative self-talk, it can make problems worse and contribute to conditions like depression and anxiety.

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How can talking to ourselves in the second person (using 'you' or our name) help manage chatter?

This linguistic shift creates an automatic perspective switch, leveraging language to help us relate to ourselves like we're advising another person, which helps reframe threats as challenges and boosts self-efficacy.

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How should we talk to others who are struggling with chatter?

Effective support involves two stages: first, empathically connecting and learning about their experience to validate their feelings, and then, when they are ready, gently nudging them to broaden their perspective and consider solutions.

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How can we help someone who is struggling with chatter but hasn't asked for help?

Providing 'invisible support' by easing their burdens (e.g., taking care of dinner, dry cleaning) or subtly guiding them to resources (e.g., suggesting a workshop as a group activity) can help without threatening their sense of self-efficacy.

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How does social media influence inner chatter?

Social media can exacerbate chatter by allowing immediate sharing of raw emotions, stripping away empathy cues, promoting curated highlight reels that elicit envy, and facilitating collective co-rumination that keeps negative feelings active.

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How can rituals help manage inner chatter?

Rituals provide a sense of order and control through structured, repetitive behaviors, take the mind off the problem by drawing attention, and can foster a sense of community and bond when performed with others.

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How does experiencing awe help combat chatter?

Awe, experienced in the presence of something vast and difficult to explain, broadens perspective and leads to a 'shrinking of the self,' making personal concerns and worries feel significantly smaller by comparison.

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How does spending time in nature help manage chatter?

Nature provides a 'soft fascination' that gently captures attention, allowing attentional resources consumed by chatter to replenish, which helps individuals implement other tools for managing their inner voice.

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Should we distance ourselves from positive emotions like joy?

No, while distancing is helpful for negative chatter to gain perspective, positive emotions like joy or bliss should be fully embraced and immersed in, as they do not require objective reframing.

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Should children be taught tools for managing their inner voice?

Yes, these tools can be generalized to childhood, helping kids persevere in difficult situations and manage their emotions, suggesting that education on mind management should be integrated into school curricula much earlier.

1. Harness Your Inner Voice

Learn to harness your inner voice to prevent negative self-talk and rumination, as it’s a powerful tool that can lead to happiness and productivity when used correctly, but destruction when used incorrectly.

2. Nip Chatter in the Bud

When you notice yourself slipping into negative chatter, actively try to stop it quickly to free your inner voice for productive activities like planning and fantasizing.

3. Use Distanced Self-Talk

Engage in “distanced self-talk” by silently coaching yourself through problems using your own name (e.g., “Ethan, what are you doing?”), as this leverages language to create psychological distance, helping you reframe threats as challenges and boost self-efficacy.

4. Broaden Your Perspective

When experiencing chatter, broaden your perspective by stepping back or zooming out to focus on the bigger picture, which can provide alternative and useful ways of understanding your situation.

5. Practice Temporal Distancing

Practice “temporal distancing” by imagining how you will feel about a current stressful situation in the future (e.g., six months from now), as this can provide valuable perspective and reduce immediate chatter.

6. Avoid Chronic Rumination

Avoid prolonged rumination and worry about negative events (like replaying an upsetting email), because maintaining a chronic stress state can lead to various physical health problems, including cardiovascular disease and inflammation.

7. Connect, Then Advise Others

When supporting someone with chatter, first connect by listening and validating their experience, then gently nudge them to broaden their perspective or consider solutions, rather than just letting them vent.

8. Build a Board of Advisors

Curate a “board of advisors” by identifying specific people who can provide effective support for different types of problems, recognizing that not all close relationships are best for solution-oriented advice.

9. Offer Invisible Support

Offer “invisible support” by helping others without them explicitly asking or knowing you’re helping, especially when unsolicited advice might threaten their sense of self-efficacy.

10. Organize Your Physical Space

When experiencing inner chaos or chatter, organize your physical space or engage in tidying up, as this “compensatory control” can provide a sense of order and help you feel better.

11. Develop Personal Rituals

Develop and engage in personal rituals (structured sequences of behaviors) to gain a sense of order and control, distract your mind from problems, and potentially foster community.

12. Seek Awe-Inspiring Experiences

Actively seek out experiences that evoke awe (e.g., nature, art, scientific marvels), as contemplating something vast can “shrink the self” and make your personal worries feel smaller, helping to rein in chatter.

13. Recharge with Nature Walks

Take walks in safe natural spaces to allow your attention to replenish through “soft fascination,” which helps recharge mental resources depleted by chatter and enables you to use other coping tools more effectively.

14. Use Social Media Intentionally

Use social media intentionally and strategically to avoid pitfalls like “doom scrolling” or collective co-rumination, and instead leverage it for positive support and connection.

15. Limit News Consumption

Limit your consumption of news, especially if you find it keeps you locked in negative feelings and prevents you from moving towards solution-oriented thinking.

16. Immerse in Positive Emotions

When experiencing positive emotions like joy or bliss, fully immerse yourself in them rather than creating distance or seeking objectivity, as these are moments to be embraced.

17. Teach Kids Emotional Tools

Teach children emotional management tools, such as distant self-talk (e.g., the “Batman effect” where they imagine being a superhero and coach themselves), to help them persevere in difficult situations from a young age.

18. Self-Experiment with Tools

Experiment with different combinations of tools and techniques to discover what specifically works best for you in managing chatter, as there is no single “magic bullet.”

19. Practice Silent Self-Talk

Practice self-talk techniques, like using your own name, silently in your head to avoid violating social norms and potential social ramifications.

20. Recognize Solomon’s Paradox

Recognize Solomon’s Paradox, where you’re better at advising others than yourself, and use this awareness to seek external perspectives or apply self-distancing techniques when struggling.

21. Ask Before Giving Advice

When someone is sharing a problem, ask if they want advice or just want to keep talking, as different people are ready for solutions at different times.

22. Don’t Post at Emotional Peak

Refrain from posting or sharing on social media at the peak of strong negative emotions, as time often helps to temper emotional responses before sharing.

23. Mind Online Empathy Cues

Be aware that social media lacks the empathy cues present in face-to-face interactions, which can lead to less constrained and potentially harmful communication like trolling or cyberbullying.

24. Avoid Passive/Doom Scrolling

Avoid passive scrolling or “doom scrolling” on social media, as this behavior can exacerbate negative chatter and anxiety.

25. Curate Social Media Feed

Actively curate your social media feed to ensure it provides content that is supportive and beneficial for your well-being, rather than passively consuming whatever appears.

26. Create Your Own Rituals

Feel empowered to create your own idiosyncratic rituals, as they can be just as beneficial for managing chatter as culturally prescribed ones.

The inner voice is a tool, it's a tool of the mind and when we use it the right way it can bring us much happiness, it can help us be successful and productive but when used the wrong way it can be enormously destructive for our health, for our relationships, for our ability to perform.

Dr. Ethan Kross

What makes it harmful is when our stress response is triggered and then remains chronically elevated over time. That exerts a wear and tear on the body that we are not designed for.

Dr. Ethan Kross

The goal in my mind is not to turn the inner voice off, the goal is to harness it.

Dr. Ethan Kross

We are much better at advising other people than taking our own advice.

Dr. Ethan Kross

Connect first, educate second.

Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

I order the world around me to provide me with the order that I seek in my head.

Dr. Ethan Kross

Distance is not always good. It depends on when you distance. You want to distance at the appropriate times.

Dr. Ethan Kross

Providing Effective Chatter Support to Others

Dr. Ethan Kross
  1. Learn about the other person's experience and what they are feeling, allowing them to share to a certain degree.
  2. Empathically connect with them to validate their experience, which feels good in the moment and strengthens friendship bonds.
  3. When the person is ready, gently nudge them to go broader by asking how they've dealt with similar problems in the past or sharing what you do in that situation, to help them reframe their thinking.

Combating Personal Chatter (Dr. Kross's Approach)

Dr. Ethan Kross
  1. Coach yourself through the situation using your own name, asking what you would tell a friend.
  2. Practice temporal distancing by imagining how you will feel about the situation six months from now.
  3. Check in with your 'chatter board of advisors' (3-4 trusted people) to get their perspective.
  4. Go for regular walks in a natural setting like an arboretum.
  5. Clean and organize your living space, such as the kitchen, more frequently.
20 years
Years Dr. Ethan Kross has been studying conversations we have with ourselves Since he began his research on the inner voice.
37 years
Years Dr. Ethan Kross has been thinking about the inner voice Influenced by his father's teachings on Eastern philosophy.
10 years
Years into Dr. Kross's career when he had a personal experience with chatter After publishing a paper that gained significant attention.
17
Age of the youngest person to win the Nobel Peace Prize Malala Yousafzai, mentioned as an example of using distanced self-talk.
75 year
Duration of Harvard study showing relationship quality as key to happiness Study showing quality of relationships is the number one factor for happiness.
12 or 13 years
Years Dr. Ethan Kross has been studying social media Since social media first started to take over.
70%
Percentage of people not reaching clinical levels of anxiety and depression during COVID (in the States) Indicates many people are managing stress reasonably well, using various tools.
21 years old
Age of student who questioned why mind management isn't taught earlier A senior level seminar student at the University of Michigan.